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My Computer?s Journey Into The Bathroom
Random, but so for real, aspiration of mine: conducting an orchestra. Does that blow your mind, Internet? Me, Margene, in my pajamas (assuming that's ok with the musicians, audience, etc...I do work best in my jamies), baton in hand and all the what not...just bringing the house down in some huge concert hall. Sometimes I practice with a knife and fork when I'm cutting up Lester and Aaron's dinner...usually to that song on the "meat, it's what's for dinner" commercials. I love that song. I'm humming a certain part right now that I wish I could figure out how to write down so you'd know what I'm talking about it...I mean, I'm sure you know what part I'm talking about, but...I wish I could write it out because it's fun to try to write what a sound sounds like...especially music. Bop, bop-bop-bop, bop-bop-bop, bop-bop-bop, bop-bop-bop, BIP! Everyone's got that, right?

Here's a question for you, Internet...if I may. And I think I may because, well...it's the best part about this whole situation we got going on here. You don't really know me that well and I don't really know you all that well, either, so it makes it OK to just come out of nowhere with something like: why do men have to make everything make sense? Like, why does everything have to work out to a: "this happened then this happened then this happened then this happened and that's why it is the way it is from now on"? Whoa. Yeah, I know. That's a little fru-fru-y of a question, but come on. All of us are philosophers sometimes, right? It doesn't take a toga or a bowtie, does it?1 I do my best contemplating in the bath?or bathroom in general, really, but I've been thinking about it a lot lately and I think it's a question worth thinking about?even if it's only when I'm in the tub or on the toilet (which is more time than you'd like to think about, lately. Gross.) I've been kinda the butt of the family joke lately-mostly from Ben and Bill - for being a whirlwind of thoughts and emotions and it grinds my gears that every little problem I have or moment of frustration I go through (and sometimes make others go through with me), one of them has THE...solutionor so they think. I was a little crabby yesterday afternoon so Bill brought me some water to soak my feet in, which is super sweet, of course. But when I was still kinda crabby, definitely less crabby, but still kinda crabby...like 15 minutes later, he was in total shock. Sore feet = crabby, to him. Do something to help sore feet...no more crabbiness. It ain't that easy. I was crabby for about 5 million reasons yesterday afternoon. ONE of them happened to be that my feet were sore. ONE of them?you see what I'm saying?

Ben's been Captain Current Events lately, which is something that I'm really proud of him for, and he and Bill have been talking all through dinner (and after) about Iraq, Iran, Pakistan, the environment?all the stuff that CNN yaps about all day long (I bet CNN's run by a bunch of fellas, too, of course.) And?it's great, you know. It's really great (and I'm so proud of Bill, too, for really getting into this with Ben lately) when a dad and son talk man talk?you know worldly stuff. It's just...a great thing to witness because you see them talking and listening to one another in a completely different way than they normally do. And they both love it and it's probably made all of us .5% smarter just from exposure to second-hand conversation, but hearing them talk (and I know they're saying informed, educated things)...but hearing them talk, you'd think the world existed on a straight path...and has for all of time. Of course I'm not saying what they're talking about is simple or that they're being "simple-minded" or anything like that, but...I don't know?it seems like they never take into account things "just happening"...randomly)...and so everything has to be tied to something else for it to make any sense or be worth talking about at all.

Maybe I'm way off. I mean, they obviously know more about things in the world than I do...but it's not the details I'm even talking about here. I don't doubt that they know more about what's going on than I do. I'm just talking about the way they talk about stuff. It's all super interesting, but it does seem way too?straight forward (if that's the right phrase for it). Is it really possible that "this caused that which caused that which caused that which caused 9/11"? That doesn't seem possible to me and I think that men really do need, for some reason, to think that way. Why? (Seriously. I'm asking.) And it's obviously not just about history or politics or stuff like that. A guy can't just BE sad. He's sad because...(fill in the blank...but the blank's only got room for one word.) And whatever's in the blank is the one and only reason. That's so weird to me. I guess it's just part of what makes us different, right? Sure. I can take that. Because trying to make sense of it would be to?think like a man. And that's not always a good thing, right? :)



1Real quick: You think Bill would wear a bowtie if I got him one for Christmas this year? I kinda want him to. Is that weird? Not dorky, scientist bowtie. But I think he'd look good in a sharp, manly one. The people that mess it up for all bowtie folks are the ones that ONLY wear bowties. Those people are usually pretty uptight and I think they're ruining it for everyone else. Maybe I'll get him a nice, manly, red one. I think he can pull it off?if he ever took it out of the box.
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Margene, I really miss the idea and expression; "God only knows". There was a time when we didn't have to figure out everything.

It seems since Watson and Crick broke the DNA code we shifted to believing we could, should, and better figure everything out.

God only knows why men cannot just ask kids to do something without going into why they have to ask, how many other times they have asked, and outlining consequences for people who are not responsible.

God only knows why a man can't fix something until he knows who broke it.

I miss allowing having the unkown, and the faith that I don't have to know everything, because God, who is alone in knowing, still does know.
@SanMango:
The verdict is open on that one. There are those who believe that the restriction on coffee and tea has to do with caffeine. The truth of the matter is that the original revelation on this (called the Word of Wisdom) only mentions that Hot Drinks are not good for the body. The original is the only revelation dealing with this that is published in what is called the Standard Works (Bible, Book of Mormon, Doctrine and Covenants, Pearl of Great Price).

Joseph Smith (the one who received the original revelation) is reported as saying that Hot Drinks = Tea and Coffee. Whether this restriction is due to caffeine has not been revealed. So a large percentage of Mormons will be found eating and drinking things with caffeine in it (think chocolate, Coca / Pepsi Cola, Mountain Dew, etc). And drinking hot drinks (such as Hot Chocolate and coffee substitutes [that is don't use the coffee bean] like Caro and Postum).

The one area the caffeine camp has the upper hand is in the counsel that we are to avoid drugs and the addictions associated with them. This council is weakened somewhat by the allowance of drugs as prescribed by Medical Practitioners.

Now-a-days there are studies that say that drinking very hot drinks raises your chances of esophageal cancer by as much as four times (see International Journal of Cancer, 88 [15 November 2000] pages 658?664). I personally think that God worded the original revelation as He did on purpose - Warm drinks - Yes, Hot drinks - No. And it does no harm skipping coffe and tea either.
Seriously... its been almost a month since the last post...are you ever going to give us another update???
Is there such a thing as a "manly" bow-tie?
Isn't that sort of a contradiction in terms?
I think, maybe, the guy in Problem Child might have ruined any chances the bow-tie may have ever had.

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Edited by SusieKeeton at 01/05/2008 6:00 PM
are mormons really not allowed to drink caffeine?
Welcome to jadara, bet I spelled that wrong. But the welcome is all here. Love to have all these women to talk with! And you all are so intellegent, you have such good observations about the male/female thing.
That about the guys getting the big O every time? How perfect was that!
I worry though, if we really listened to the men being honest for a day, we'd prolly not speak to them again.
O, and my kid, he's 28, and he lives here and helps me take care of my mom, even he knows we cry for no reason sometimes. Or we cry because something is so beautiful. He get's it, and he's not even gay!
Margene,
Would you mind sharing the recipe for the carrot/raisin salad that you, Nikki, and Sarah were making during the time when Rhonda was hiding out with your family?

It looked really delicious except for when the cop from Juniper Creek spit in it.
Margene,
The time spent on the toilet peeing? Been there and done that. One time I was pregnant in a place I love, but has little or very little heat, beyond the wood burning stoves. I had a lovely one once, made of soapstone. The ex tossed it. And, of course, no indoor bathroom.
I just had to tell you, the bathroom was always my favorite space. People think you are doing something they shouldn't interrupt, so you get some peace and privacy. Which I would need in your position. But the sister wife thing sounds great to me. You wouldn't have to be always on call, the one 'he' depends on, you share the 'keeping the man happy
stuff. That's pretty cool, I think. I know many don't, but I do. And I love your choosing Ana. Why shouldn't you have a, what did he call it? A vision, that's not it, but you remember. Why should God not work through the sister wives as well??? I liked that. I was sorry to see you leave with him. Glad she's back.
I actually have a question... feel free to respond... if Mormons cannot drink coffee, tea or anything caffeinated, what's in the mugs that Barb, Nicki and Margie drink out of?

robby, maybe it's chamomile?? Or Red Zinger? Something from Celestial Seasonings. Just a thought
I actually have a question... feel free to respond... if Mormons cannot drink coffee, tea or anything caffeinated, what's in the mugs that Barb, Nicki and Margie drink out of?
i think bill would look weird in a bowtie... even though i know its too late because its january 1st. Happy New Year anyway. I guess i can only picture bill in a regular tie.
by the way HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!
this is my first time commenting on this here blog so i'd like to say a big HI YA'LL to everyone and i just LOVE this idea to blogg!

ok...about the manthinking...i think their train of thoughts are completely void of emotional connections. they can actually discuss it without thinking "i wonder what they were thinking right before that happened" or " that would've been a horrible day to get your hair done wtih all that dust flying around..." kwim?

women, no matter what happens...eve if we KNOW it was a planned, calculated down the last particle of dust attack we would still think "what happened to this person to make them this way..." or "gosh their parents must be wondering where they went wrong" or even "if that were my child i'd beat them right where they stood.." we're just emotional thinkers..every action/reaction has to be based on a feeling for us. Men just aren't...prolly why they're guaranteed the big O during intercourse every time...you put this in there..it feels AWESOME..end of story. where as we have to be in the right place emotionally to even consider sex...then there's the foreplay..and the mood has to be a certain way..and if he says one off handed remark..all that work has been ruined!! lol

it would be interesting for men and women to trade thought patterns for just a day...i bet we'd all gain profound respect for the way the other sex thinks..yk:-x
seriously????? A bow tie????? If you think he would wear it why not then.
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A bow tie? Get him in a tux. That would look pretty fine.


i don't know Butchie instead
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