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I'm doin' me some self-helpin' up in here, Internet...
I've really done some work on myself in the past couple days, even though there has been more...craziness going on around me than at one other point in my life. As my last post might have suggested, I have decided, once and for all, to take control of life. I'm proud of myself for deciding this, as stupid as it sounds. To me, that, in and of itself, is something I should be proud of...the decision to change some things. And also, I've learned some things during this mini-process that have helped me relax a little bit about what's going on all around me (crazy or not), no matter how hard it is to believe that it's all real. First I've realized there is a whole buttload of things so far beyond my control that I cannot even try to change them or wrangle them to the ground and ask them what the hell they think they're doing. It's such a relief to really and truly realize this...at least it was for me. Seriously, it's not like that's some ancient Chinese wisdom or anything...I know it's more obvious than that. People know it, but...well, they claim to know that little rule. They say it out loud, but they don't think about what it means. And until you take some of the pressure off yourself to control everything from the rotation of the earth to the time lunch is served, you will absolutely go crazy. I don't even think I was someone who tried to control everything. A week ago, I'da said, "Of course you can't control everything, but..." and it's that "but" that means you don't quite it just yet. Like I said, I don't think I was obsessive about controlling stuff, but I was someone who tried to control more than I could actually handle. And it made everything harder. It felt like trying to take three deep breaths in a tiny room with only enough air for two small breaths. So, Nell and I got in the bath one night, turned off all the lights and just sat there. Hot water and darkness is the recipe for some good ME-time...or so it seems to me and my little ladyfriend, Nelly-Poo Buttonface, who's sitting right next to me right now, sleepy as all get out. It was that night - three nights ago now - that I decided there's too much to get a grip on to get a grip on everything. That was really freeing and it was a really good start.

Next, I decided that I got too many of my own issues pumping through my veins to take on other people's. A lot of times, people vomit all their problems onto everyone else and everyone else takes it...deals with it simultaneously...struggles with it...thinks about it...takes it on as partially their own...whether they want to or not. That's fine. If that's how some people are, that's how some people are. But I don't have to be that way and, to my point here, I don't WANT to take on their stuff. I can control doing that. I don't wanna be some kinda Unabomber loner or anything; I wanna be sympathetic and listen. I'm not saying I want to just ignore everyone so I can live in some blissful world where all I think about is ME. In these houses, that's impossible...in a good way. But I don't have to take it on myself - I don't have to feel the weight the same way, say, Nicki does right now...the way she wants me to when she tries to explain why she's doing the things she does that make her life so gosh dang complicated. I'll listen as patiently as I can. I help when I can. I'll kick her in the butt when I can. (Man I wanna kick her in the butt sometimes!) But her problems aren't mine, no matter how much she wants them to be (mine or Barb's or Bill's or anyone else's). AND, I can't change it. They're hers. Nicki is a mess. From where I'm sitting, it sure looks like she's overwhelmed with the countless bad decisions she's made and now that the cat's out of the bag, no matter how much her mistakes affect us as a family and as individual people, they're her mistakes to think about, figure out, and eventually make right. She said she was scared, and I told her she should be. She's been lying so much to so many people, and when you do that, controlling it all is all you think about. That must be so terrible. (I went through a pretty big lying phase when I was, like, 19 or so...late teens somewhere...and I was so miserable all the time.) But back to Nicki. I'm really, really upset with her, and I really want to bring everyone to the table so we can try to remedy this situation (which I'll get to in a second). But in that moment, when I was sick with her and she had just said something really mean about my business right before making it about her again, I was happy that I said what I meant: she should be scared. Maybe that'll straighten her out. And I felt like I didn't let her put any of her guilt or fear onto me. I didn't get mad, I don't think, but I wasn't a pushover. I didn't share her burden just because she wanted me to. I didn't tell her it will be ok. I don't know if it will, no matter how hard I pray that it does. I didn't let her put any of her own sh*t onto me, and I felt that that was a product of my positively concentrating more on the things I can control. I can control what I let people drag me into. I think Nicki's taken advantage of the old me, that way. Until I had done some real thought, I didn't realize I have control what people can do to me. That's a "can control1" and I feel good for recognizing it. Now that I do, even though I'm sick to death the first test is something this big, I'm happy with myself for changing the way I handle times like this. (Unfortunately, there haven't really been times "like this"...this big?but still...you get what I'm saying.)

My final thing before I have to lay The Stinker down for the night: I can control my anger at Nicki, as long as I give it its due...and maybe I can be the one to actually get the conversation going because I can be the one NOT to let their anger be the driving force behind all communication. I want Nicki back here tomorrow (I want her here tonight!), not because I'm not still upset and disappointed in her. But because what good is it to have her separated from the rest of us when nothing's gonna be solved until she's right in front of us? I don't have any delusions about how mad everyone is. I know the chips are stacked against one big group-hug ten seconds after she walks back in the house (she decided to stay at the compound, but only after she tried to make her doing that Bill's decision). But, I feel like, at this point in time, I'm able to be mad and be constructive at the same time. I'm not trying to toot my horn. It's just the way it is now. Maybe I can bring something to the table because of this. I'd like to. I really want to. I hope I can. Whether I do and people listen, though...is out of my control. That's sad, but I can wrap my mind around it all the same.

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1Trademark on that phrase pending, Internet. You can't have that one. :)
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I'm a cradle Catholic who returned there after sojourning in many churches and learning something wonderful in each. We have Rome and a thousand shards that broke off. When Jesus came, he found Pharisees and Sadducees. There were probably other interpretations of the Torah as well!

Betcha every church is theologically screwed up somewhere. I'm also quite sure that Jesus loves all who call Him Lord, especially those who risk ostracism for their faith.

Poor little Margene wasn't Mormon in the first place, let alone brought up in a plural wives background.

You've been through as much or more as Nicky and you support and love everybody else!

I think I'd love to have sister wives! I think I'd love to be part of a culture so devoted to serving God. Wow, would I have a problem! I like coffee, cigarettes, and beer once a week!
Wait until Niki goes shopping with Cara Lynn with the new credit cards that'll come in the mail to her house in your stolen name!!
Wow Spooky Stuff....you ARE spooky!

"What did all of your words mean? You make no sense. Talk to us as a real person."
Well...she's not a real person, she's a character on a TV show. And what does THAT mean anyways? How do real people talk?

"we all understand that the temple scene you will show... is payback for Prop. 8"
Actually, now that you mention it that thought never ocurred to me but thanks, I will enjoy watching it even more the second time! Ever heard of the seperation of church and state? Also who are you directing your tirade at here...? Margene, the TV character, had nothing to do with the production of this TV show episode.

"Trust me, this will come back to haunt you, and it won't even be the Mormon church that gets you. What you so-called actors won't do for money. Sold your souls - all of you. What a pity. I feel bad for all of you."
What is so wrong about showing the depth of emotion and faith that someone (even though they have been outcast by their own religion) can feel?

If you don't like the show don't watch it. It's as simple as that. Why waste your hatred here where it is irrelevant and unappreciated? If you really need to spew your closed-mindedness go where someone might appreciate it. Like a Yes on Prop 8 rally.
What did all of your words mean? Caught up in what? You make no sense. Are we suppose to pretend you're really Margene in our comments? How stupid! Talk to us as a real person. That would be nice. In the meantime, we all understand that the temple scene you will show on Sunday night is payback for Prop. 8. Too bad. Trust me, this will come back to haunt you, and it won't even be the Mormon church that gets you. What you so-called actors won't do for money. Sold your souls - all of you. What a pity. I feel bad for all of you.
Margie..OMG YOU NEED TO LEAVE NIKKI ALONE!
im sorry.i love you so much.and i usually am always on your side..but my gosh margie.everyone needs to leave poor nikki alone.i know that she wouldnt be there for you if you needed her..but you and barb (especially barb) and bill need to see where she is coming from..she has always been romans little girl and when he asked her to help him out with the trial there was no way she could denie him the help even if she wanted to..i am truly glad that you are standing up for your self but try to be more compassionate of nikki..just imagine if you were in her shoes...
Margie.. (good for you for taking control!) :)

I am really curious about something.. as a third wife myself, in a marriage with four wives, I really wonder how you all manage to live in your street without people knowing about your plural lifestyle. Do the kids ever go out and play with the other kids? If so, don't they talk about their dad? Or about your family? What do they tell at school? Never had a kid draw his three moms at school?
It's something we are trying to deal with ourselves. It would be awesome to get an idea of how that works in your family.
I understand what Nicki is going through. I feel Nicki should think about Nikki and not what is best for the "family" Nicki has lived her whole lie for the compound. It is time Nicki makes herself happy and I think Ray makes her very happy. She needs to rise up from the oppression that she is under. Out of all the wives it is Nicki who has outgrown the family.
It is time for Miss Grant to spread her wings
It's time for the family to leave Nicki. She causes nothing but constant grief for the family with her lies, puts the whole family in danger, and upon discovering she's been taking birth control, she's not even helping the family live the principle.

She has no purpose, provides nothing positive, and has been given enough chances to make it right, and only made it worse.
This character breaks my heart: she wants so much to be validated and thus is accepting of this life style without the real thougths and feelings behind it. She is much like the kids today that lay down with one another like some sort of modern day hand shake, not really feeling what the whole marriage thing is about. This last episode was so telling: Margie blathering away at the baby, telling her plans, just like typical teen age moms who just want to be loved, so they have babies. But I love this characters big heart. That is why she is my favorite, though I identify more with the first wife. (Come on now ladies, we all can ID with this life style. I would be grateful to know my husband was right down the hall with the women he is cheating on, at least she'll help with dinner so I can go to the gym and she can have him for a few days so I can get a break! I think I could do this with the right ladies and if my husband made alot more money!) Margie, you will come into your own, but I fear once this character does this, she won't want the family any more. I want this character to blosom, but I don't want to lose her sweetness. The family doesn't realize how lucky they are to have you. Truly.
wow its about time i cant wait to see next episode im on the edge of my seat now
I'm really proud of you Marg! :-D Its about time you stood up for yourself against Nikki. She shouldn't belittle your career goals just because she's in a heap of trouble. And good luck with your jewelry business!
I'm really sorry your family is having to go through this, Margene. First it was her shopping addiction, then she came close to gambling addiction in the casino (though thankfully, she never pursued that venue), essentially being the lynchpin in destroying your relationship with Ana, and now this string of lies with the birth control pills and using your name for spying.

The woman has some serious problems, and if you do let her back into the family, I strongly suggest you make the welcome conditional on the grounds that she attends some therapy. In fact, it would probably be good for all of you to do so.
Thank heavens the character margene is standing up for herself. I'm happy with her response to Nikki because she is troubled, manipulative, deceitful and selfish, not to mention she cheated on the entire family with all the deceit and on her family. She needs help! I'm happy everything is out and she'll get her just desert, I hope.
Marge...:-D
So proud of you, you are really an amazing person don't let anyone tell you different. I mean amazing in so many ways. Way to go on you business, what a great example for you children. You can't save Nikki if she doesn't want to save herself, Bill was right there needs to be resolution between the two of them on there own. You and Barb can't always fix everything for her otherwise there really isn't any true relationship between the two of them. It only exists vicariously through you and Barb. Anyway God's blessings and love on you journey to find yourself. You are someone to be proud of!
:-D I'm so proud of you and the way you have grown in the past few weeks. I think Bill, Barb and Nicki are lucky to have you and blessed by your care and love. You are hereby dubbed "no longer a victim!" :-D

God Bless you!
Pie
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