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Hope everything's going alright out there, Internet. Pretty slow here today. It's early. It's 6:27 AM and I've already taken a shower. Respect that, Internet. I'm up, showered, and writing before 6:30...because I love you. That's why I do this. For the love.

The reason I'm up early is because I have an 8 AM appointment at the doggone DMV. Somehow things got all screwed up with my file or whatever, and now I have to go down there, sit in those horrible chairs, and not smile for about three hours, just to get my new license.1 I'm bringing Jane Eyre with me to read. I've never read it, even though I, in the interest of full disclosure, did write a five-page book report on it in tenth grade. Shawad Resvoni had the Cliff's Notes. Those...um...those helped a lot, we'll say. (Oh, but "writerwannabe,"2 yes...I did graduate from high school, despite this tale of corner-cutting and deceit. Unfortunately, Roosevelt High School was the last place I've graduated from, but maybe one day, when the chi'lens are out of my hair, I'll think about finally taking some college courses. Finally.) So anyway, I'm taking this huge book and I'm expecting the worst from the ol' DMV. But, you know...for my peoples...I had to do a little bloggy entry real quick. I missed you, and I know you missed me...right? :)

The "kids' future" question. As in: do I want them to "chose polygamy"...which, as a phrase, has some real shortcomings, but...anyway. This is a serious toughy...obviously. I don't really have some concrete answer for you. It's something I think about, of course, but it's not like when I'm frustrated in the moment about something "sisterwife-ish," I think, this is what I want Nell never to have to deal with. I mean, that's just ridiculous. I'm not too big a believer in the concept of "perfection," so I know this way of living has challenges and something that could definitely be seen as a downside. But that's so obvious to me that it's not worth obsessing over...mostly because I know that ANY and EVERY other path in life I might have ended up on would absolutely ? without a doubt ? have it's own set of challenges and something that could definitely be seen as a downside. I have to reserve the right to change this opinion, but for now, while the kids are this age3, I can honestly say that I'd be fine with them totally deciding on their own. I've never thought that this is for everyone. It's totally not. Hopefully, our kids see the fact that their parents all love each other with their whole hearts and that's what might seem attractive to them. But if they find that somewhere else in some other "way," how can I be upset with that? I do consider Bill their (the kids') spiritual leader...that I don't think about one bit. He leads the entire family spiritually, and I'm really thankful for that. I wouldn't have it any other way. And, in his heart of hearts, maybe Bill really does want the kids to follow our path directly. But I think this is something that all parents wrestle with...not just us. We talk about it...probably not as much as we should, considering how important it is...but we don't dwell...at least I don't. Ben and Sarah are at the age where things are more on the table because they're older. But, also, and this is easy to forget: they were both born before Bill and Barb married Nicki and, obviously, me. So, for them, and for Bill and Barb as parents, it's even more complicated. Ben and Sarah remember the transition into the family that we are now, and I'm sure that makes this issue even more complicated for them. For me, with our kids being still so young, it's something I feel will work itself out much more naturally if we don't push anything on them too hard...while all the while showing them how sure we are that WE (Bill, Margene, Nicki, and Barb) made the decision that was best for us...for the reasons that are important to us. Any of that make any sense? Hope so.

The Ana question. Another hard one. Unfortunately, I haven't talked to her since she left. That was so painful. I still love Ana so much, but I have come closer to terms with the fact that her coming into the family didn't exactly bring out the best in some of us...myself included, of course. So, I miss her like crazy and mostly just want to make sure she's OK, but we, she and I, haven't talked since back then. I think about calling her...more back then than now. But I just don't think it's a good idea. Us wives definitely played a big part in her "buyer's remorse" ? for lack of a dumber phrase ? but I felt like, once she left, it was gonna be something Bill/Ana related that would ever bring her back...and that ain't gonna happen, I don't think. As far as I know, Bill hasn't talked to her either. I know he said he didn't think he should, but...I don't know. It's really sad. She's so great. I hope she's doing alright. We miss her. Ana, if you're reading: YOU'RE MISSED IN THESE HOUSES. I HOPE YOU'RE HAPPY.

BARB'S TAMALE PIE:
Ingredients

* 2 Tbsp canola oil
* 2 1/4 pounds lean ground turkey
* 1 yellow onion, chopped
* 1/2 white onion, chopped
* 2 red bell peppers, seeds and stems removed, chopped
* 1 Tablespoon salt
* 2 Tablespoons pepper
* 2 1/2 teaspoons chili powder (more or less to taste)
* 1 Teaspoon brown cardamom (more or less to taste)
* 2 14 1/2 ounce cans of roasted tomatoes
* 2 Serano chiles, chopped roughly
* 1/3 cup golden raisins
* 1 1/2 cup grated sharp cheddar cheese (about 4 ounces)
* 1 1/2 cup grated Monterey Jack cheese
* 1/3 cup beef stock

* 1-pound of prepared cornbread mix
* Whatever is needed according to cornbread mix instructions to make the cornbread batter (water, egg, oil, milk)

Method:
1. Preheat oven to 375°F.
2. Heat olive oil in a large skillet on medium high. Add the ground beef, onion, and bell pepper. Add salt, chili powder, and cumin. Cook, stirring infrequently, until the ground beef has browned on all sides. Remove from heat. Drain excess fat if necessary (if you are using lean beef, there shouldn't be excess.
3. Mix in fire-roasted tomatoes, Serano chiles, corn, raisins, cheese, and water. Adjust seasoning. Add more chili powder and cumin if desired. Rub a little olive oil over the insides of a 9x12-inch casserole dish (or use a nonstick cooking spray). Spoon filling into the casserole dish.
4. In a large bowl, prepare the cornbread batter according to the directions on the package. Pour the cornbread batter over the top of the filling in the casserole.

Bake for 40 minutes, until the top is browned.

NICKI'S CARROT-RAISON SALAD:

* 5 c. grated or shredded, pared carrots
* 1 ½ c. raisins
* 3/4 c. mayonnaise or salad dressing
* 2 tsp. lemon juice
* 1 1/2 tbsp. light cream
* Lettuce
* 1/3 c. toasted, blanched almonds

Combine carrots and raisins. Blend mayonnaise or salad dressing, lemon juice, and cream; mix with carrots and raisins. Spoon into lettuce cups or over shredded lettuce. Sprinkle with almonds.

WORD OF THE DAY: http://www.merriam-webster.com/cgi-bin/mwwod.pl

Alright, I gotta run. Next entry will be my tattoo story and my wedding story...no, they're not the same story&:

Wish me luck, Internet. I hope I make it out of the DMV alive. Fingers crossed. Talk soon.

- Margene! (I'm thinking of officially changing my name to "Margene!", with the exclamation point. Thoughts?)

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1I just read online the other day that, in Virginia, they passed a law that literally made it so you weren't allowed to smile in your DMV picture. What the heck kinda world are we living in here, people? They say they wanted the "most accurate picture possible," but all they've really done is suck the last part of your soul out of your body after they've made you wait in their midst for about six times as long as it should have taken...and then won't even let you fake a smile when it's finally picture time. Unbelievable. Way to go, Virginia. I thought you were "for lovers," anyway. Lovers smile, last time I checked. Shame on you.
2Hey! I'm one of those, too!! :)
3While it's "easy" to be all laissez-faire about it...
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Sorry IsaiahChapter4Verse1, but I wasn't really interested in hearing your perspective on the issue. IF you use the Bible to back up your arguments you can justify almost any depraved act including torture and murder. I wanted to know what Margene's character thought about the issue not you.

I will address your argument about multiple husbands though. You are coming from a place that assumes men are in charge of the household. That, of course, if a husband decided to move that would be the final decision etc. We do happen to live in a time when women can be just as powerful and successful as men. Who's to say that it wouldn't be the woman's job that supported the family, or better yet, an equal partnership (heaven forbid). It would be just as hard to move a group of women as a group of men. Furthermore, Bill gets to flirt and date and marry anytime he chooses. Why then can't the wives have the same luxury? That would only expand their celestial family and isn't that the point of the principal anyway?

There is no justification for polygamy. It is not more convenient, practical, or easier. If anything it makes things much more difficult and complicated (as seen in the show). But even if it were more practical, it is still a completely unfair and unequal practice. We watched Bill transfer a man to a different store because he had once had a relationship with Margene. Imagine if Bill had to deal with the feelings that arise from being continuously cheated on like his wives do. It would crush him. Does he mind that he is hurting them, particularly Barb? No. That is not love. That is control and sexism justified by religion.

When you think about biology, polygamy doesn't even make sense in this day and age. There are an equal number of men and women. One of the biggest problems with these polygamist colonies is that they run out of women and younger men are forced out. This dynamic is illogical and not at all beneficial to the advancement of the species.

Good luck to you and your wife (and future wives)
lovefriedeggs, Yes, I LOVE Jane Eyre too. I was surprised by the modern remake of Jane Eyre, it was well done. But my all time favorite is still the 1944 version with Orson Wells and Joan Fontaine. They're performances are mesmerizing. If you haven't watched that version you can rent it at just about any video rental outlet.
Hey love the show blah blah blah. This is my very first comment ever posted anywhere. What caught my eye, and inspired me to bother with registration and all that, my very favorite book ever - Jane Eyre. I wanted to tell all of you out there in internet land how awesome it is. And, u have to c the movie when u have finished with the book. I am usually very disappointed when I watch a screen adaptation of a good novel. Especially when it is classic lit. You can definatley find some hokey versions of this book,but there is one that will blow you away. It was made in 2006? maybe Anyhow the one i'm talking about is a bbc production trhat i found on OETA. You can get it through netflix, or order it through masterpiece classics. I ya just watch the movie it's good. if you have bit of background info like say a memory of cliff's version from 10th grade it's probably really good. But, if you actually read the novel then watch the movie... Holy cow!!! Ya know Its about time for me to read and watch again. That will keep me busy until big love is back with new episodes. Happy reading.
Well Margene, I think it's smart to let your children live the path they want. That way your not disappointed if your children rebel. No matter how hard you try, you cannot decide some other person's ,family or not, path in life.

If parents could, I highly doubt you or Barb would be in a polygamist marriage. It is the gift of free will.

I want updates on the family and what everyone is doing this summer!!!!

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Edited by Lchickie16 at 07/17/2009 5:05 AM PDT
Post another blog already!....this is the only thing I have to get me by between seasons. BTW your my favorite! ;)
I miss the fam! When is the show coming back?!?
Where are you Margene? It's been like 3 weeks! I miss you! :(
Rebekah/halfateam, the 3rd season is over. I think the 4th season starts shooting in August for January 2010 release.

Do a google search for tvsitcoms and you should find streaming episodes to watch at your computer... or better yet, order a DVD from HBO (more convenient, better quality video and always handy).
I am asking when the 3rd season will be on tv I am a big fan, I love the show and watch every episode. Thanks
Rebekah
Oops... new to this blog and just now noticed the comment is not preceeded by the person's name but follows it.. meaning my quote was from MonagamyMiss not BuffyMor. My apologies.
Noticed on your blog elsewhere that you are in a polyamorous relationship (couples who share, for the uninitiated) and that BuffyMor asked a question along the same line:

"How do you justify the fact that Bill is allowed multiple wives but you and the other wives are not allowed multiple husbands? Why is okay for Bill to flirt with and seduce women he is attracted to but it is so horrible when any of you find yourselves attracted to another man? Doesn't this hypocrisy ever make you and the other wives angry? I have always been curious and it's never really been fully address on the show."

I've only been married 4 and a half years (not our first marriage for either of us) and have an open mind regarding the scriptures (useful for guidance, NOT inerrant and the Spirit of unity and love is more important than scripture). Knowing that the bible not only doesn't condemn polygamy but states clearly that God blessed King David and others with more than one wife, I can only conclude that it's OK. My wife has come to the same conclusion and we both look forward to the day we are living in a plural marriage.

However, being fairminded, and finding the Apostle Paul's teachings abhorrent, especially his statement that women should keep silent in the church (we believe in a universal priesthood, both male and female) we have had to grapple with this issue of "If I can have more than one wife, why can't my wife have more than one husband"? Our answer may be surprising to some.

First, consider what happens within polygyny (one husband, more than one wife). There are multiple mothers but all the children have one father. What happens when the husband wants to move his family? They move as a unity and all children continue to have the same multiple mothers and the same father. In a modern polygynous relationship (NOT Mormon, which is grossly skewed towards the needs and wants of the man) the women yield more power concerning any move because they are the one's with the children and there are more of them, so they can make sure any such move benefits the children and the family as a whole.

Now, consider what happens in a polyandry (one wife and more than one husband) under similar circumstances. You have one wife with multiple children by different husbands. What happens when one husband wants to move the family? Now the men are in the position of power, since there is one woman and many men? How many of you women trust men to make the best decision for your children? Now multiply that by 2, 3 or how many husbands you might consider having.

Also, there is no denying that men have bigger egos and are prone to greater agression. It just goes with the tostesterone and the protective mindset God created in us men. Now consider one husband is dead-set on taking matters into his own hands if necessary, that he is totally sold on moving you and all the children to some new city where he can make a lot more money and further his career. Do you think the other men, who already have their own careers going for them, where you already live, will fight this move tooth and nail or just roll over for the husband who wants to move? Right, wars have been fault over less and we all know that history tells us it's almost always the men who start and fight wars.

So, after considering all this, we concluded polygyny is the way to go, especially for those who want families with children.

There are other reasons but this was the change-agent for us.
I made the Tamale Pie the other day and my husband and I loved it! You need to do a recipe every time!
Hi Margene,

This question has probably already been asked and answered before, but I haven't found it:

How do you justify the fact that Bill is allowed multiple wives but you and the other wives are not allowed multiple husbands? Why is okay for Bill to flirt with and seduce women he is attracted to but it is so horrible when any of you find yourselves attracted to another man? Doesn't this hypocrisy ever make you and the other wives angry? I have always been curious and it's never really been fully address on the show.

Thanks!
Thanks for the recipes, whoever is hired to do Margine's blog! The tamale pie sounds yummie!
Margene, Indiana passed the same law. We are not allowed to smile or wear our glasses in our license pictures. It's quite depressing and I definitely look like I got stood up out of a coffin. haha.
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