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Stubborn Is As Stubborn Does
There have only been a few times in my life when I've seen this much...I hate to say it, but...stubbornness going on all sides of a fight in my life. I can't start judging everyone because that's its own form of stubbornness, I guess. But, man. We're talking for ALL time and ETERNITY here, Internet! Come on! I really want to bring all parties together, but I'm making zero headway. It's all really serious, obviously, but it's starting to make me chuckle how little everyone's willing to budge. I'm taking a break. I'm taking a trip down hardheaded lane. Here's a list of the top three most stubborn moments I've ever witnessed, not counting this standoff between Bill & Barb (individually and collectively) and Nicki...in no real order:

1. Mom grew up next door to these kids named the McClures when she and her mom were living in Barstow. The McClures had two boys about her age that she was friends with: Jamesy and Louis. They were pretty darn close growing up and, like, twenty years later, once Mom had me and we were living in Colorado, Jamesy moved to town working on the HUGE construction crew that was building a bridge over the Westmoreland tributary...which took, like, three years. Part of that time, Mom and Jamesy dated...on and off, as usual. (I guess, real quick, I'll explain the name: he was called "Jimmy" as a kid and when he was getting older, he tried to get people to call him James or Jim, instead. Just to grind his gears, Louis and his friends started calling him "Jamesy"...and it stuck.) Anyway, Jamesy rented this cabin thing he shared with a Comanche guy named Clarence that was pretty much one big room, but it had a loft where Jamesy (and Mom, sometimes) slept. It had a ladder and, at the top, this railing with wooden balusters so you didn't roll out of bed in your sleep and drop the twelve feet or whatever to the living room below. Well, one day, I was downstairs playing Chinese checkers with Clarence and Mom and Jamesy were just lounging in the bed in the loft, chatting with us from up there. Jamesy peaked his face through the balusters to look down and tell one of his terrible (and dirty) knock-knock jokes1 when he realized his head could fit in between them. Well, and you can see where this is going: he got his head stuck in between those two pieces of wood in the railing. It was all fun and whatever for a few minutes; we were all laughing it up and cracking jokes. Mom was unscrewing the posts, but she started talking a little too much trash as she was doing it and Jamesy was starting to get mad. They started to get into it and it got to the point where she was gonna make him say, "this is the dumbest thing I've done since the time I lit a car on fire because someone dared me to." But he wouldn't. I remember not remembering the time he set a car on fire because someone dared him to, but he didn't like her bringing it up, it seemed, and he refused. Time and time again. For, like, forty-five minutes. Then he started yelling. Then Mom started yelling, and Clarence and I looked at each other like you do when a situation's turned bad. Clarence left without saying anything to Mom or Jamesy, leaving just me to watch this stupidity unravel above me. "Do you want me to help your sorry ass out of this mess or not?" Mom asked. "Not," he said like a pouty kid trying act tough. "Go to hell."

Mom put the screwdriver down on the bed and walked downstairs. She told me we were leaving. I stood up. Jamesy, lying on his stomach with his head still stuck, crossed his arms on the outside of the railing in defiance. It looked more uncomfortable. He did manage to give Mom the finger, though.

"I'll stay here forever, if I have to," he said.

"Don't doubt it," Mom said, putting things in her purse.

"I hate that you're like this."

"Me, too."

She looked up at him as she took my hand. We walked out outside. I couldn't decide who was more stubborn, but I was pretty sure I'd never see Jamesy again. And, of course, I didn't.

2. This one involves me and a pair of rollerblades. First of all, I should have never been on rollerblades, ever. It is absolutely impossible to understand a young me (a) wanting to rollerblade so badly and (b) raising so much hell when I wasn't allowed to. At first, I wasn't allowed to because those things ain't cheap. Well, at least they weren't cheap then. Thankfully, I don't know now. Can't imagine they've gone way down in price, but I guess we'll see when the boys get old enough to be dumb enough to want a pair of rollerblades. But anyway, the price hurdle was overcome when I won a pair in a raffle at school. Mom was furious. "Stupid raffles...I swear..." Anyway, two weeks later...skating...crack in the sidewalk...broken arm. Pink cast. Six weeks. Summertime. It sucked.

The whole time I had my cast on: "I swear to God, Margene. I know what I'm talking out. Those things are a goddamn death trap. A death trap. Death on wheels...inline wheels. Just isn't right." I had to sign a contract with Mom and the doctor that said I wouldn't skate while I had the cast on, but I fought Mom on her philosophy about rollerblades all the while. She didn't get how cool they were, I thought...how much fun they were. She didn't care, I figured. She didn't know what that kind of fun was anymore. I insisted I wasn't deterred. I told her I loved rollerblading. I can't believe I said that, but I remember telling her, specifically, that I loved it more than anything else I did. (I was a stupid kid a lot of the time, you see.) She enjoyed the six skate-less weeks, but I hated them and couldn't wait to get that cast off and them skates on. She told me I shouldn't, but I was hearing NONE of it. Finally, the day came. They sawed the cast off. Two hours later, I put the skates on...crack in the sidewalk...same sidewalk...different crack...broken arm...other arm. Pink cast again. Six weeks again. Autumn time. It sucked...worse.

3. NELL! RIGHT NOW! WILL. NOT. EAT. Refuses, and it's driving me CRAZY!!!!!!

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1Knock-knock/who's there/Emerson/Emerson who?/Emerson nice t*ts ya got there, lady.
25 Comments
You go girl!!! It seems like you are finally finding out who you truly are and what you want...You stand your ground!!! I HONESTLY don't think that Nicki and Bill will be divorced. They have been through worse than this.... We Love Ya Margene
Nicki will be pregnant. The sex she had with Bill will result with a pregnancy and he is not going to end up divorcing her? I have watched General Hospital for too many years, it is the obvious plot twist?
KT33....My God, you guys know that this is written by someone who is NOT Ginnifer? And Nell isn't real???? This is a tv show!

Ok, former LDS people, what more about the Endowment ritual.
I think last night show gave us a good look into what a few of the real issues with Nikki are. This season has been very insightful as far as Nikki is concerned.

She was a 15 year old child bride when she was sealed to that creepy JJ dude. Who even though she said she didn't want to be intimate, forcered (i call it rape) her to be stating it was what God wanted. And as we found out last night he had a child, a daugther. The only way for her to get out of the "marriage" was to leave her child. Nikki's entire life was a power struggle, build on lies and secrets. So it is no wonder that her "adult" life has been like it is. She feels locked into another marriage, that she may or may not have ever wanted to be in and afraid to be tossed out of her home, to lode more children.

Its funny, I am absolutly a Barb, I really like Margie, and wish i were more fun like she is. But my heart hurts for Nikki.

I feel Margie is woried her life is falling apart, thus the need to "fix" things. I do agree that she is right, they (Bill, Barb< Nikki, and Margie) have a bond that can't just be undone.

I think what has happened to Barb is horrible. To be betrayed by her sister and brother-in-law. And yet she shows up at their home when her neice was kidnapped, just shows the kind of person she is.

As for Nikki walking to find Sarah in bed with her bf. Sarah need to figure out what she wants, because I think Bill will take a shotgun to him if he finds him in bed with Sarah. I think Sarah batting her eyes and crying to daddy won't work again.
Margie . . .

First, I love your character! After watching the last show where everyone was stubborn except you. I actually caught myself walking through the house carrying laundry, thinking Margie is the only one truly committed to the marriage. When things go bad you shouldn't go get unsealed! Like you said, talk things out like a family! Thanks for making my Sunday nights awesome!!!
Oh, I forgot to mention how much I loved the endowment ceremony you guys showed in this last episode. I watch the show with a group of friends who were all raised LDS here in Utah (all of them have left the church at this point, though) and we were SO EXCITED about this :D love it! I had read about the ceremony before but it was really cool to see a visual of what that strange little Masonic-based ritual really looks like.

Thank you, Big Love writers.
I am so thrilled that Bill has finally made the decision to unseal himself from Nicki. This is not about anyone being stubborn, it is about Nicki needing, at the VERY least, a veritable shitload of therapy to ever change into a person that will bring something positive to the family. Ever.

She's a pathological liar, she doesn't help the family live the principle because she's been lying about birth control for years, and she's put the family in danger way too many times with her recklessness and selfishness and incessant lies. I can't even begin to fathom why Margie can't see that.

Writers made a wise, wise move by finally writing this in :) she'll still provide all the interesting (albeit infuriating) drama as Bill's ex and the mother of his children without us all wanting to disown the whole family for staying with her.

I anticipate that with the investigation on Bill and Nicki for obstruction of justice, being that Nicki isn't married to Bill anymore she'll claim it was all his idea in court... yikes.
Nell will eat when she is ready to. There is nothing to worry about unless she stops drinking. Hang in there, everything will work out for you in the end.
Margene,

I have to say that when I first started following the show, um your life, from the begininng you were my fav. character. Then, somewhere along the way, Nicki became my absolute favorite. Something about how passionate she is about those she loves, and how she has beliefs that, for her, are above questioning. And even though there have been times she could've thrown you under the bus, she always helps you b/c she knows Barb can help herself.

So, you can imagine how upset I've been the last few episodes when everyone seems to have turned against her. Yes, she hid her birth control pills, but did anyone ASK her if SHE wanted to use her body as a breeding house. Also, she and Bill have been drifting, and its not as if he EVER has a moment of day to give to one of you alone, nevermind Nicki to figure out their marital issues.

You guys try throwing Anna in the mix, and you're not even doing a decent job of taking care of each other.

And don't even get me started on Barb. She has been selfish and inpatinet from the beginning. She only uses you when she needs your help against Nicki. Make no mistake; she resents you both, and she is the one who undermines the goal of the family.

All that being said, I'm excited to watch how things ufold, and despite your initial anger against Nicki, I was happy to see how you tried to help out last night. Also, my husband says if there was ever a character on t.v. that matched my personality exactly, it is yours. So I guess that means something. :)

Hi Nell!
Stubborn is the best word to describe Barb, Nicki and Bill. Why wont bill just admit that he still loves Nicki? is he just trying to scare her our of her habits?Why doesnt Barb just forgive Nicki? Nicki grew up in a really complicated family. her lifestyle is nothing like any normal person would live. she just wanted to feel normal and i understand that. i dont understand why some people want nicki out of the family. i was shocked to hear that nicki might have a daughter from her first marriage when she was cealed to JJ. Margene you really need to do something here....your family will fall apart if you dont do anything. i think you are really the only sane one left in those three houses. dont even get me started with sarah. who told her bf? and why is she having sex again....does she want to get pregnant again?!? i hope she is being safe this time. i also want to make a note on how screwed up the greens really are. they are willing to kidnap a helpless child in order to get a letter? the greens have done wrong in the past though. so much going on and we only get to see one more episode.....im so upset. ; (
Love the knock knock joke...you really know how to make a bad situation better margene. good luck with Nell, im sure she will get over it. just make it fun for her. Talk to you next week Margie....our last conversation.....
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