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In his first project for HBO since the long-running hit comedy series "Arli$$," Robert Wuhl offers his own freewheeling take on history, examining "the stories that made up America and the stories that America made up."
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Re: Assume The Position With Mr. Wuhl
Feb 10, 2008 12:18 PM
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I would love a copy of both 101 and 201 if available...if not it should be. I know several people I would like to share this with. My husband and I stumbled upon 201 today and thought it was very entertaining and thought provoking. Please make this into a series!!!
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Re: Assume The Position With Mr. Wuhl
Oct 27, 2007 7:13 AM
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With all due respect "MrTeach," you have got to be kidding me. A number of discussions throughout this thread point out historical inaccuracies of fact in the show. Your argument is that all of history is interpretation. How, might I ask, do you interpret the story of the term "upset?" It was used in a sports context prior to the horse race. How is this "interpretation?" Sounds like misinformation.
There are, of course, variations in interpretation throughout history. However, these points are not variations in interpretation, they are legends presented as a fact. Certainly you understand how presenting a legend as a fact is a problem, right?
Example:
Kentucky Fried Chicken changed their public name several years ago to KFC. The reason? They have been genetically engineering chickens for so many years that the food that they serve no longer qualifies to legally be called "chicken." "I shit you not."
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Re: Assume The Position With Mr. Wuhl
Oct 14, 2007 12:29 AM
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Well, well...now that some of us have shown how intelligent THEY are...yes, let's write this and that about how Robert Wuhl's Assume the Position is wrong about this and that...yes, yes, we know you're a VERY smart person, and your parents' investment in your education was worthwhile...cough, cough...lets also understand that HBO is a major entertainment business...shows that are boring won't last and won't make any money for the network, which is why they are in business...have you ever tried to explain to a group of students the various intracies of history...AND kept their attention...oh yes, you forgot that part...so, those of you that are going on, and on, and on about this and that...do us all a favor...stop boring us...to all of the wannabe talking heads out there, I commend Robert Wuhl for getting people EXCITED about history and ENCOURAGING people to research on their own and develop their own opinions...which really...that is what history is all about...oh, it's not all facts and dates? Oh, yes, try reading about the American Revolution in an English textbook and then an American textbook...quite a difference! History is a well told story, and the facts ARE open to interpretation, which is why history is CONSTANTLY changing...and it depends on who is telling the story...if you have 30 witnesses to a crime, you will have 30 different versions of what actually happened...history is a well told story,and Robert Wuhl has done an excellent job at doing that, much like our parents when we were 3 didn't interrupt the story of Humpty Dumpty and tell us that eggs weren't real! As I write History on my blackboard, I make the letters h and i teeny tiny, and the letters s t o r y VERY large to make that very point...those of you that are blogaholics with nothing better to do, and you haven't seen the light of day in a month, get off Robert Wuhl's back and go back to ordering your groceries online...
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Re: Assume The Position With Mr. Wuhl
Mar 6, 2007 10:51 AM
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I would love to have a copy of Assume The Position, but I do not see it for sale by HBO. How can I get a copy of it??
Jennie
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Jan 30, 2007 11:53 AM
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Are the two fingers together or held apart? (I love info)
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Jan 10, 2007 3:32 PM
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The British use a different gesture than the American "middle finger"... they use their index and middle fingers held up in a peace sign, with the back of the hand facing the person they're flipping off. If you've ever tried to pull a long bow taut, you'd know it was practically impossible with one finger. The British soldiers used to (and still do) hold up those TWO fingers in a rude gesture- not the one middle finger.
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Re: Assume The Position With Mr. Wuhl
Jan 7, 2007 11:36 PM
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Freddie Mercury did not write “We Will Rock You”. Queen’s straight guitarist, Brian May did.
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Re: Assume The Position With Mr. Wuhl
Oct 18, 2006 8:07 PM
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Series, series, series...yeah
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Re: Assume The Position With Mr. Wuhl
Oct 7, 2006 2:23 AM
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I'd forgotten about him being in GMVietnam! That was a great movie and he played it well. I've still got it in my movie collection. I'll end up pulling it out again now and watching, lol.
Oh ho ho, frenchie! (ROFL)
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Re: Assume The Position With Mr. Wuhl
Oct 6, 2006 10:01 PM
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Fact: 39 men signed the U.S. Constitution
13 (33%) were Freemasons...
Fact: Bob went to school with me at union high in union n.j. He was always trying to make people laugh , tho at the time during the 60's ,there was more hatred towards people who were jewish then were black...I had the pleasure of cleaning many floors with those that insulted or berated him..If you see him just ask who Jeff was and say hi.. You have to love this guy..His movie with robin williams'good morning viet nam' was one of the few movies about nam that i still watch to this day.. Thanks Bob.. and dont worry....i got your back...thanks HBO
your friend
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Re: Assume The Position With Mr. Wuhl
Sep 24, 2006 7:25 PM
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I'd really like this to be a series also! I tried finding it on the Tivo but it's long gone 
Come on HBO, you take my 8 bux a month, lets put it to good use! (besides Deadwood, lol!)
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Re: Assume The Position With Mr. Wuhl
Sep 11, 2006 4:28 AM
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First time I've seen the Wuhl presentation, Assume the Position, and wondered how I could have missed it before. Oh, I know. TV has become such an inane place to put my precious mind, that I rarely watch it - even though I pay buko bucks for Direct TV. Mostly consign my viewing to movies.
Now this was something different, interesting, enthusiastic and informative all rolled up into one. If HBO isn't making this a series, I'd question their motives! See, that's what something like this show does, it has us finally asking questions, instead of just accepting rote whatever we are forced fed by any media, be it education, music, TV, or our government's positions.
Some other facts that might be of interest:
FACT: ALL signers to the Constiution were FREEMASONS, as were Lafeyette (the French Lt. who came to the American's rescue) AND all the British fighting against us. Now go and research Freemasons to understand what they were about back then and ??? now. I KNOW THIS TO BE FACT, because any visit to the NY City Masonic Temple has pictures of every single member of importance on its walls. Mozart was a freemason.
The higher degreed members of the Freemasons were deeply entrenched in the occult.
FACT: George W Bush's grandfather Prescott Bush was a member of the Skull and Bones Secret Society at Yale, as was his son GH Bush and his son George W Bush. The grandfather, Prescott, was also involved in not only funding Hitler's war effort through his banking connection here in America, they also funded the Russians at the same time. This continued even after the US entered WW11. Prescott was found out, NEVER TRIED, and went on to run for the US Senate.
Google Prescott Bush's 2004 declassified information from the US Archives. Google Skull and Bones to see how many members of that Secret Occult Society are either running our government, or in positions of power in Corp's., or advisors to our government elected.
FACT: Anyone below the highest wrung (degree) of the Freemasons are completely ignorant of what the higher degreed inner circle is up to. The lower rung are doing good works. The upper rungs' secrecy needs to be revealed.
FACT: Our Government is a WAR Machine, whose main purpose is to continue war around the world for their agenda of power and money. Google places that went to war after CIA "visitation" meddling with their politics or stirring up both sides of long ago issues, thereby creating civil wars or creating dictatorships. Then our media going in and filming these wars and dictatorships, telling you from pictures what you are seeing, and us not questioning what we are seeing, because we are being told.
Kind of like what happened when we were schooled in history. Hey, it has to be right, THEY say it is.
Media propogandizing our minds to create judgments on these "stupid" people around the world fighting each other (CIA or the British version of CIA created it in the first place) and setting us up to later agree to go in, in an agend of bringing peace to a region.
Wake up people. Peace was and never will be the result of war. War, though, will guarantee future terrorists, and future wars - hey, its all business, right?
Now let's see some real issues presented, facts that really touch our lives today. Wuhl opened the door, let's keep it wide and get over latching onto whether the plucking the yew story is real or not. How important is it?
And there's lots more facts that need to come out now.
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Re: Assume The Position With Mr. Wuhl
Sep 5, 2006 3:59 PM
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WRONG! George Grant did not invent the golf tee. William Bloxsom and Arthur Douglas did with patent #12941, 10 years before Grant's modification attempt. Reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tee
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Re: Assume The Position With Mr. Wuhl
Aug 31, 2006 1:11 PM
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Just saw the show for the first time today - love Wuhl's work dating back to when I was a kid and saw Hollywood Knights.
Entertaining show, but with so many incorrect stories. One that hasn't been mentioned yet is the cross-dressing NY governor tale. That story about Edward Hyde (aka Lord Cornbury) parading around in women's clothing has been disproven.
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Re: Assume The Position With Mr. Wuhl
Aug 26, 2006 9:14 PM
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I'm no Robert Wuhl, but here are a few other history tidbits. This one deals with baseball. Does anyone know who Fred Merkle is? Well, Fred Merkle is best known for a baserunning error, which led to one of baseball's greatest controversies. It occurred while he was playing for the Giants in a game against the Chicago Cubs at New York's Polo Grounds on September 23, 1908 that cost his team the pennant. It would forever be known as the "Merkle Boner", and Merkle himself would be dogged by the unflattering (and somewhat unfair) appellation of "Bonehead".
With the score tied in the bottom of the 9th inning, with two outs, and Moose McCormick on first base, Merkle singled, advancing McCormick to third base. The next batter, Al Bridwell, also singled, apparently allowing McCormick to score and ending the game as a victory for the Giants. The fans in attendance subsequently stormed the field--in celebration, but also because the exit was located at the center field wall.
However, Cubs second baseman Johnny Evers noticed that Merkle, thinking the game was over, walked to the Giants' clubhouse without touching second base. Evers shouted for the ball (it was relayed to him from the Cub dugout), touched second, and appealed to umpire Hank O'Day to call Merkle out. By the strict letter of baseball rules, Merkle's not touching second meant that when Evers did, Merkle was out on a force play, and that McCormick's run did not count.
What Merkle had done was actually common practice at the time for players in games ending in that fashion. In previous similar situations, there had been other appeals to umpires from the losing side to apply the rules strictly against the winning team, declare the negligent baserunner out, and thus nullify the would-be winning run. Those previous appeals were denied, including, ironically, an occasion earlier in that same season between Evers and O'Day. On that previous occasion, O'Day called the runner safe. But this time, perhaps being more prepared after the previous incident and with the magnitude of the situation, O'Day enforced the letter of the law upon Merkle and the Giants.
For his part, Merkle maintained until his death that he had only started to walk off the field without touching second base, but that he had realized his error, turned around, and touched second after all. The umpires did not see it that way, however, and ruled him out.
With the run nullified, the Giants' victory was erased and the score of the game remained tied. However, the game could not be continued because by the time that ruling was made, there were thousands of fans on the field. Consequently, the umpire ruled the game a tie. When the Cubs and Giants finished the season tied, the game was replayed. The Cubs won this makeup game and thus the National League pennant.
Now, here is an example of how times have changed. If you saw a headline today that said "Giants lose game on account of Merkle's boner"...it takes on a whole new meaning.
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Is anyone here a Beatles fan or John Lennon fan? Well, in 1966 he was in the middle of a huge controversy involving religion. An American teenage magazine called "Datebook" printed a quote of John Lennon's where he said that the Beatles were "bigger than Jesus." Which would seem to indicate that they were "better than" Jesus. As you can imagine, this quote set off a firestorm here in the United States. And it led to John Lennon receiving all kinds of criticism, including death threats. Some people started burning their Beatles albums. Some radio stations stopped playing Beatles songs. In fact, there is a funny story about how a radio station in Alabama that stopped playing Beatles songs was struck by lightning. It knocked them off the air, in fact. So I think it's safe to say that God is a Beatles fan.
So anyway, the quote that John Lennon was attributed to was not even accurate. What really happened is that he was originally interviewed by Maureen Cleave of the Evening Standard in England. At the time, which was 1966, there was a huge decline in religion in England and especially with young people going to church. Cleave asked John Lennon why this was happening. And his response was "I don't know. Right now The Beatles are more popular than Jesus Christ." More popular is a lot different than saying "bigger than." He was misquoted. He wasn't saying that the Beatles were bigger than or better than Jesus Christ. He was merely making an off-the-cuff statement regarding the decline in young people going to church.
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