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Last Post Nov 30, 2008 9:25 AM by: pisces66
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Re: How to read Autopsy reports

Nov 30, 2008 9:25 AM
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I have an autopsy reports, that makes very little sense to me, I was hoping that someone might know including Dr Baden on how to read it, to see if maybe the means of death were ovedose related or not, right now we are unsure of the cause of death.
I do know now, he suffered from Mild and focally marked coronary arteriosscerosis, Mild pulmonary emphysema and Hashimoto's thyroiditis, which were never being taken care of being he didnt know he had these conditions..
The reports saids he had:

clonazepam-Heart blood .082, Brain <.050 and gastic >1.2mg in 100ml

7- aminoclonazepam-Heart blood .494, Brain.640, liver
.720 and gastic 0.7 mg in 100 ml

Morphine (microgram/ml)-Heart blood .040, Urine .654

6-Monoacetylmorphine (mg/ml)-HB-ND, Urine .150

Codeine(mg/ml or g)-HB-ND, Urine .056

amitriptyline (mg/ml)-Heart blood-.072 and

Nortriptyline (mg/ml)-Heart blood- .047

The scecimens submitted Results were as follows:

Screen Panel- Alcohol
Samples-Heart blood-.15% (w/v), urine-.15% (w/v), vitreous humor-.15% (w/v)
Compounds detected- Ethanol

Benzodiazepines-HeartBlood-Diaepam(trace) nordiazepam and clonazepam

compenhesive basic drug screen- Heart Blood- Cotinine,amitriptyline, nortriptyline and morhpine

Immunoassay Screens-Opiate- Urine-Postive
It also said Rigor mortis is at 4 +, livor mortis is faint, purple and unfixed across posterior surface of the body.

This person was 168.6 lbs and stood 5 ft 6 inches tall.
It also mentions something about his three vessels show mild to mderate atherosclerotic changes, with the left anterior descending artery hsowing up to 50% stenosis in its proximal hlaf and the prxmial right coronary artery demonstrates a single 0.5% cm long focus of 80% stenosis and the myocardium is red-brown and without fibrosis.

I would hope some one out there could tell me if this makes sense and if so what does it all mean. Did he overdose ? Have a heart attack ? I am unsure and trying to get answers when no one else including the place that did the report wants to give me any....

Thank you...
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I have a question for Dr. Baden...

Nov 26, 2008 8:47 PM
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How can he sleep at night knowing he helped railroad two good cops? Budzyn and Nevers deserved better than Baden.
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Re: General Comments

Oct 24, 2008 12:35 PM
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svani, my condolences to you for the loss of your dear brother. I am so very sorry.

I am not an expert, but I would imagine that autopsy rules vary from state to state, even county to county. You didn't mention where you were from, but I would look up (possibly even Google) results that might lead you to the agency for your particular area to find out the rules applicable.

Good luck to you.

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Re: General Comments

Oct 21, 2008 7:09 PM
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My brother died about a year and 1/2 ago in his hotel room, in another city after returning from an out of country business trip. My question is how is it possible that a relatively young man (53) with no known health issues die in a hotel room yet no autopsy is performed? I thought that autopsies needed to be performed if an individual died outside the hospital. Can anyone help me with this?
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Suspicious deaths

Oct 14, 2008 11:02 AM
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Several suspicious deaths in western Indiana, including an autopsy that the Indiana University Medical Center later denied doing.
One of the victims had a hole in his head "because the fire got so hot that it burned a hole in his skull." The car managed to spontaneously catch on fire, due to a missing catalytic converter cover, in a wet field, just a short distance from the home of one of the victims.

The story from the State Police changed during the media coverage; initial reports of an accelerant were recanted. Rumor has it that a relative of very high-ranking US government official was involved in this "accident".

There are many seeking answers, but few willing to talk publicly due to fear of repercussions. Some of the public forums include:

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/rockville-in/TR50KGN07LV37RVMP
(Start c post #4)

http://www.topix.com/forum/source/wthi/TSBD81E4MK1UPT834/p2
(Start c post # 28)

You can also search the local paper (when the site is actually working. It has been down most of the time since I encouraged others in the forums to read the archives.): http://library.tribstar.com
Search for "Catlin" from 07/30/1995 through 8/30/1995.


There are several other "accidents" mentioned in the above threads, but another unexplained death in Vigo County is discussed here:
http://www.topix.com/forum/source/wthi/TICHEKDUKGUP6J10H


Maybe just a coincidence, but Catlin is rumored to have been murdered due to a debt to a meth dealer, who had his hand in the pocket of a local officer. The officer is known to have been dirty & has been associated with many strange cases. He was charged with torching his girlfriend's car about 5 months after Catlin's death, but charges were dropped (story also in the trib-star archives, but start in Oct. 96) due to insufficient evidence. The same cop supposedly married the one surviving victim of a car that plunged into Raccoon Lake (her friend and her 2 yo child both "drowned").
Can't help but wonder if he might be tied to the Scott Jarvins case (car "rolled" into the Wabash River) or the double homicide in Edgar County, IL (where he was charged c torching the car)...

Not a pathologist, but I can't understand how you could get body fluid/blood for tox screens from a corpse that has been burnt to a crisp. (Of course, results were never reported.) Or how a fire could burn a hole in the skull that would appear to be a bullet hole. Supposedly the family cannot get a copy of the autopsy from the county coroner without a subpoena.

Not an investigator, a reporter, or a producer, but I think there is one heck of a story that needs to be told. If even half of the rumors are true, it would be a major event. The are several rumors of threats; the PI that the families (Catlin/Crum) hired early on has disappeared without a trace, his licence revoked. Oh, and the current Parke County Sheriff was President of the Indiana State Police Association at the time the "accident" occurred. Rumor has it that all of the evidence and documentation from the investigation has been destroyed...
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Re: Please help me Dr Baden

Sep 20, 2008 12:17 PM
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Hi jacquelinetm,

Let me first offer my condolences to you on your mother's passing. I am also so very sorry about the circumstances of her death and what is happening right now. Unfortunately, Dr. Baden is no longer answering questions on this message board. I don't have any information on how to contact him. I hope that you will find the answers you are looking for.

Deepest regards,
Ginna

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Please help me Dr Baden

Sep 17, 2008 8:37 PM
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Dr Baden,

My mother had been threatened by a family member for weeks prior to his arrival to her home this past March. She was fine the day before his arrival and the morning of the day she died. This family member called me the afternoon of the day that she died and informed me that if something happened to her, he would have power of attorney over the estate and then he told me that it looked as if my mom was dying. I got to her home in less than ten minutes, but no one would answer the door. I assumed that he, or some neighbors, had taken her to a hospital... I did not have a key to her home to check to see. The next day, another family member found her (because of my desperate pleas) and she had passed away. To make a long story short, I am her ONLY blood relative, yet a relative by marriage told the coroner that the family did not want a full autopsy! I argued with the coroner about this, but it was like talking to a brick wall. He told me that I would have to hire a physician. Sir, I do not have money.... the person that was with my mom last had everything to gain, including a lot of wealth AND when I asked him if he killed her, he didn't deny it.
Sir... I have contacted the homicide division and the coroner and I have no one interested in helping me. To top everything, I wasn't allowed to participate with her funeral arrangments because I protested when that family member insisted on burying her in another state... a state that she has no ties to whatsoever.

Please advise me... thank you!

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Re: General Comments

Sep 15, 2008 12:18 PM
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I have no idea why that was edited out, odd. I tried a search online, and couldn't find the JFK part, though I did find one about OJ, and Caylee Marie Anthony. I will keep trying to find it.
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Re: General Comments

Sep 8, 2008 1:41 PM
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I Just purchased the DVD of the show, where Dr. Baden talks about his most famous cases. I purchased it because I really liked the chapter on JFK.

When I got the DVD though, the last 5 or 10 minutes of the show on the JFK chapter were edited out from the original broad cast version. This section was the main reason I bought this DVD. It was the part where he talks about why JFK's head goes back and to the left when shot, and answers several other conspiracy questions.

Does anyone know why this was edited out? And if I can find a copy of the show that wasn't edited?
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Re: General Comments

Sep 5, 2008 9:30 AM
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Iam looking in to see if Dr. Baden does guest lectures and what are the requirements if he does. Our Law and Public Safety classes and Anthropology/Archaeology classes are very interested to have his come to speak.
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Re: Hemorhage

Sep 3, 2008 9:01 PM
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I have heard that Coumadin is being used to kill prominent people. A fine needle is pushed into the skull from the base of the hairline in the back of the head. Coumadin is then injected into the brain and a coma results. My question for Dr. Baden is that should enough Coumadin remain in the brain for testing after death?.
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Re: Hemorhage

Sep 3, 2008 7:37 PM
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Hi guys!

I apologize that it took so long for me to get back with you all. It took a little time to find out exactly what the answer was. I'm sorry but Dr. Baden will no longer be answering questions here.
Again, I'm sorry it took so long to get back to you and hope you do get the answers you need for your families.

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Re: General Comments

Sep 2, 2008 1:32 AM
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I am a student in college going for my BS in Criminal Justice with a concentration in forensic psychology. I was wondering how likely it would be that I might be able to interview Dr. Baden for my class project.
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Re: Hemorhage

Aug 31, 2008 5:04 PM
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Angela, Is Dr Baden going to reply to my question? I've been checking frequently, but nothing so far. This is very important to my family and time is a factor. Thankyou.
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Aug 24, 2008 3:26 PM
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Hi Angela. Have you received an answer yet? Thank you.
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