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Planes of WWII

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In the Battle of Britain, The Royal Air Force's Spitfire
and Hurricane were up against the Luftwaffe's
Messerchmitt-Bf109, and others. Which side has
the superior planes?
Last Post May 12, 2004 9:05 PM by: ripw3ixj
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Re: Planes of WWII

May 12, 2004 9:05 PM
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Hello Nick. I was at Zamboanga in VMB611 during the late months of WW2. If you would like to have a chat by telephone please send me your phone number and I will be happy to call you.
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May 12, 2004 8:57 AM
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Hello Nicky. Well I was there as a member of VMB611. I departed in late September. Please email me your telephone number and I will be glad to give you a call regarding the squadron. w3ixj@comcast.net
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Re: Planes of WWII

Apr 3, 2004 5:41 PM
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Interesting,engaging and thought provoking..
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Re: Planes of WWII

Jun 27, 2003 10:59 AM
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Jack,

Kim and the WOG's of NKPR have been a threat to U.S. and world peace since 1950, and if you think we're worried, think about Japan and North Korea. China was able to reign in DPRK for 50 years, but I don't think they have that kind of control anymore. I don't think I want to go back for another tour in Korea, thankyouverymuch. (I'm allergic to Pulkogi and Kimchee)

Our, and South Korea's, posture is a whole lot better than it was in 1950, but we're still talking about NKPR having an overwhelming numerical superiority in men and weapons. And you're right, Kim Jon Il wouldn't hesitate to use a nuclear weapon if he had one. Clinton wasn't smart enough to realize Papa Kim had no intention of sticking with an agreement made while hie forged ahead with nuclear development.

North Korea already has the delivery vehicles, having launched a few over the Sea of Othosk and Japan, so mating warheads with missiles would present no problem. I think the blackmail stage is just about over and Kim Jonk Il knows he can't squeeze the turnip for much more.

Like Dr. Frankenstein, the Manhattan Project created a monster over which we now have little or no control.

Y.o.s.,

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Re: Planes of WWII

Jun 26, 2003 12:42 PM
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Colonel, I was on a HAVCAP mission in Korea right on the DMZ. We were in a right hand orbit on our side and the Migs were on an opposing orbit on their side. Everybody was armed up and ready for action. It ended without incident but the potential was high. I don't know about you, but North Korea worries me more than any other country in the world. The people are starving to death and desperation leads to acts of violence and war which are beyond comprehension to the average person. After spending a year in Korea, I believe I know how Kim thinks. He's worse than Saddam. The moment he gets tactical nuclear weapons in his arsenal, I believe he would use them without hesitation, especially on South Korea. Forget the Iranians, they're not stupid enough to use nuclear weapons after what we did to Saddam but the North Koreans will use whatever it takes to achieve their goals.

Fly Air Force

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Re: Planes of WWII

Jun 25, 2003 9:40 PM
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Jack, Colonel, I much appreciate the dialogue. y.o.s., Doug
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Re: Planes of WWII

Jun 20, 2003 11:50 PM
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jmckeit,

Thanks for a great poem that speaks from the heart of the flightline. Sorry I took so long to find this, Jack, but ya gotta remember, we ain't got no Nagivigators in fighters.

I can remember a couple of crew chief's, back in my B-24 days, we called "Pop" because they were at least 25 years old, making them older than our Pilot and Co-pilot. One of them use to call me "Son," as in "Look, son, I need a gallon of prop pitch, so trot on over to Supply and get some." I was still waiting for Supply to find the 5 yards of horizon line.

I once got into a spot of trouble because Deputy Dog in one of my fighter wings thought I was too chummy with my crew chief. Funny thing was, the Wing CO flew my F-84 more than any other aircraft in the wing. It was SPOTLESS, got waxed with Min-i-mum once a month, had a cigar lighter on the radio console, and my crew chief went over the instrument panel with a camel's hair brush at least once a day. I used to slip over to the NCO club and sip a little suds with him, and Deputy Dog didn't think young Lieutenants should be so egalitarian with the enlisted swine.

Annnnyway, I picked up some foilage on a straffing run and was almost afraid to RTB. When I did, it was "LOOK WHAT YOU'VE DONE TO *MY* AIRPLANE! YOU X*#@ING LIEUTENANTS ALL HAVE YOUR GAWDAM HEADS UP YOUR A$$!" etc. etc.

As I recall, it only took him two or three days to teach me how to fill out the Form 1 to his satisfaction.

Again, thanks.

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Re: Planes of WWII

Jun 10, 2003 2:51 PM
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Colonel, here's another beautiful poem about the crews of your old Alma Mater, The Mighty Eighth Air Force. It's written from the standpoint of a maintenance crew chief. I don't know about you, but I know my crew chiefs worked their butts off keeping my airplane flying, regardless of the weather. My crew chiefs always reminded me -- It was their airplane and I was just borrowing it for a while.

Major Jack

The Return
Beryl Miles

Twenty-one went out this morning
And the sun was in my eyes
As I watched them circle around
Before they vanished in the skies.

Twenty-one went out this morning
And the sunlight caught their wings
As they crossed the little thicket
Where a blackbird always sings.

Like birds into the morning
They flew, I know not where,
But small and secret in my heart
All day I've held a prayer.

Twenty-one went out this morning
Riding splendid through the sky
But still there is no sign of them
Though soon the day will die.

Then suddenly, through time and space
There's sunlight on a wing
And above the beating of my heart
I hear an engine sing.

The sun still goes on shining
But my world grows dark with fear
For twenty-one went out this morning
but only seventeen are here.
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Re: Gen. Foss, CMOH

Jun 6, 2003 11:19 AM
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Thanks, Jack.

Fortunately, for me, I was in the 842nd and didn't see the kind of misery the others got on, say, the 2nd Schweinfurt. Some of our guys made Ploesti, and that was bad enough, but I lucked out and was mostly Special Ops.

Happy D-Day,

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Re: Gen. Foss, CMOH

Jun 4, 2003 12:42 PM
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Only one word:

WOW!

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Re: Planes of WWII

Jun 3, 2003 11:50 PM
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Thank you for that poem, sir. And for the dedication to the Colonel. y.o.s., Doug
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Re: Gen. Foss, CMOH

Jun 3, 2003 11:36 PM
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The Colonel is a veteran of the Mighty Eighth Air Force and served in WWII. I bring this to the boards as a salute to he and all the heroes that served in the United States Army Air Force.

Fly Air Force
Major Jack

The Straggler
T/SGT Orvil Lindsey
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