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Polygamist Bill Henrickson tries to satisfy the emotional, romantic and financial needs of his three wives--Barb, Nicki and Margene --and seven children in suburban Salt Lake City. Bill, a successful businessman launching his second "Home Plus" hardware superstore, hits a roadblock in the person of Roman, a.k.a. "The Prophet," the powerful patriarch of the Juniper Creek polygamist commune and father of Nicki, Bill's shopaholic second wife. As if Bill hasn't already got enough on his plate, his estranged brother Joey, an ex-football star turned ne'er-do-well, calls Bill with a shocking revelation about their father Franklin, who lives with their mother Lois in the Juniper Creek compound.
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Apr 20, 2007 10:04 PM
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i too would like to know when the second season is coming on
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Apr 19, 2007 11:02 PM
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When is the Second Season? We have been waiting a very long time.
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Aug 1, 2006 5:21 PM
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Mal 3:11-18
11 And I will rebuke the devourer for your sakes, and he shall not destroy the fruits of your ground; neither shall your vine cast her fruit before the time in the field, saith the LORD of hosts.
12 And all nations shall call you blessed: for ye shall be a delightsome land, saith the LORD of hosts.
13 Your words have been stout against me, saith the LORD. Yet ye say, What have we spoken [so much] against thee?
14 Ye have said, It [is] vain to serve God: and what profit [is it] that we have kept his ordinance, and that we have walked mournfully before the LORD of hosts?
15 And now we call the proud happy; yea, they that work wickedness are set up; yea, [they that] tempt God are even delivered.
16 Then they that feared the LORD spake often one to another: and the LORD hearkened, and heard [it], and a book of remembrance was written before him for them that feared the LORD, and that thought upon his name.
17 And they shall be mine, saith the LORD of hosts, in that day when I make up my jewels; and I will spare them, as a man spareth his own son that serveth him.
18 Then shall ye return, and discern between the righteous and the wicked, between him that serveth God and him that serveth him not.
But in the end it all works out. Roman take heed
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Jul 27, 2006 8:23 PM
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> bill definitely gets what he deserves being a
> polygamist. Like his biblical counterparts they
> suffered because of their inability to overcome
> temptation
2 Timothy 3:12 "In fact, everyone who wants to live a godly life in Christ Jesus will be persecuted,"
Job 21:7-13 "Wherefore do the wicked live, become old, yea, are mighty in power? Their seed is established in their sight with them, and their offspring before their eyes. Their houses are safe from fear, neither is the rod of God upon them. Their bull gendereth, and faileth not; their cow calveth, and casteth not her calf. They send forth their little ones like a flock, and their children dance. They take the timbrel and harp, and rejoice at the sound of the organ. They spend their days in wealth, and in a moment go down to the grave."
Seems to me, in Christianity, the wicked grow in power and the good are persecuted. This is spelled out in "Big Love" wherein Roman grows in power and wealth while Bill Henrickson is persecuted.
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Jul 16, 2006 1:23 AM
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bill definitely gets what he deserves being a polygamist. Like his biblical counterparts they suffered because of their inability to overcome temptation
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Jun 28, 2006 1:21 AM
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This show is really interesting.. I enjoy the families and how they try to relate to each other and stay together. Maybe if this kind of thing was legalized more families would stay closer together, and there wouldnt be so much divorce and bitterness in the world.
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Jun 20, 2006 11:27 PM
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> I'd be the first to say welfare should have a
> total child per family limit - regardless of number
> of wives.
Oh, I so totally agree! Just because YOU chose to have seven or eleven or however many children does NOT mean that I chose to suppor them. I am all for personal responsibility!
I figure we DNA test everybody at birth, assign parental responsibility to the genetic parents and however many children each individual engenders - by however many partners - they are required to support.
Folks in here are all up in arms about "one man, six wives and eighteen children" but you have sports stars, comics, thugs and actors with multiple children by multiple partners and you don't see the country standing up and refusing to buy tickets now, do ya?
And what about the serial monogamists? Guy has three with first wife that he nevers sees and argues every dollar in child support, two with his second wife that he rarely sees and doesn't support because he let her second husband adopt them and has his third wife convinced to get pregnant because he "wants a family"! Or the 62 year old woman with great grandchildren who married a 38 year old and wants to get pregnant so she can give him a son? Pretty perverse, in my book.
I just don't get this overwhelming thing some folks have to breed like bunnies....
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Jun 20, 2006 11:14 PM
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> I am offended that HBO would produce the series "Big
> Love". It demeans and distorts sacred beliefs of the
> Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
Okay, I just chose one such post at random.
1) The show does not present much on the LDS and what it does isn't that far off. It gets most of the fundamental details right. That you find those embarassing or you don't know about them isn't the fault of the writers.
2) The show is about a family that has done the menu thing: some LDS practices, some FLDS practices, some RLDS practices. They only represent themselves as perceived by the writers.
3) Making the assumption, as one writer does, that no other religion has been so examined in serial television is blind. Jewish families and Catholic families have long been a staple in both comedic and dramatic literature, film and television. There have been protesters for those, too, but most folks just shrug it off. Heck, the Amish protested "Witness".
4) I think, if you watch over the course of this series, you will note that the writers have given the Henricksons a sincere core faith that they express regularly. While you may find their practice of polygamy repugnant on a personal level, it is practiced by over 70,000 people in the Utah/ Colorado/ Arizona area. Just because the LDS wrote the practice off in order to gain the benefits of becoming a state in the US does not mean all its members were willing to abandon the Principle. Just because they believe they are living the Principle doesn't mean some of them haven't corrupted it over time. It happens in subsets of every faith. There are RCs that refused to give up the Latin Mass even though it meant excommunication from the RC Church. Seeing those aberrations portrayed on TV may be embarassing but it doesn't make the portrayal a lie.
5) It's TV. It's not a documentary. Get over it.
Who knows, the whole thing might actually INCREASE your interest in learning about your faith. Perhaps there were things you didn't know (like the three levels of Heaven, the posthumous polygamy in the Celestial Kingdom, that all human souls are future G-ds, that a husband must draw his wife through the veil...all things shown on this show) that you will now pursue to your own spiritual growth. Take what helps, discard what doesn't.
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Jun 20, 2006 6:16 PM
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> I for one grew up in Utah (Salt Lake City/Provo
> area)and come from a long line of LDS. I was raised
> going to church every Sunday and we've always been
> weekly temple going members. I think it is totally
> wrong for someone to say that the show has nothing to
> do with the Mormon church. Last time I checked
> history was a part of our church and polygomy is a
> part of our history. Utah is all about Mormons.
> Anything pratrayed there has to do with Mormons. I
> even find that besides a few name variations (ppl and
> places) Big Love is pretty accurate. If you grew up
> in Ut. you'd know of the rich, powerful polygomists
> that are there. On the show they combine the facts of
> 2 real polygomist families into one. And yes polygomy
> is alive and living in the neighborhoods of Utah. I
> lived by a polygomist family and my kids went to
> school with there kids. So the Hendricksons aren't so
> far fetched. Polygomy is not practiced by LDS anymore
> but is a major part of the history. Most of us learn
> from our mistakes. As did the LDS religion. Those who
> still believe in this way of living are those who
> don't learn or handle change very well. Maybe deniel
> of our ancestry is in order for some Mormons. Big
> Love is a great show for those of us without blinders
> on. Lets face it ppl if the mormons wouldn't have
> practiced polygomy all those yrs ago we wouldn't have
> learned it's wrong and maybe the FLDS wouldn't be
> trying to keep it alive.
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> Here's a question for you........Were we not called
> the Mormon/LDS Church when polygomy was practiced??
> If so then I guess it does have something to do with
> the Mormon Church and last I checked history is a
> part of everything that has to do with the present
> modern day life. Saying polygomy has nothing to do
> with the Mormon Church is like saying wars in history
> have nothing to do with how we live life today. Big
> Love is a great show.
The LDS church did not learn from their mistakes because they never made any. The reason for the church not continuing the practice was 2 fold. Congress passed a law making it illegal and the Supreme Court upheld the law. The Church believes in honoring the law of the land and so they had no other choice but to discontinue polygamy. The only way the LDS church would ever reinstate the practice again would be if the Supreme Court reversed it's decision. And if that ever happened, 98% of the church probably wouldn't live it anyway. But at least they would have the choice.
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D&C 132:52
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I really really like this show. It's very very interesteing. I am from Utah and am LDS..not that it matters. I am very respective of everyone's religious beliefs. So, just because I don't believe in polygamy, doesn't mean I hate the show. I actually am glad that HBO made a series about it. It goes into more detail of how they live their lives. It shows that they struggle too. Why is it illegal to be a polygamist???? That is completely grouping state and religion together..that is so against the Constitution!!! Freedom Of RELIGION HellO!!! I have to say..even though I am trashing on my own religion here...LDS in Utah...they suck. They are narrow minded republicans who think that if you aren't just like them..then you are not good enough to be here. I say...let them do what they want. If they believe in having three wives and the wives believe in it..let them do it for Christ's sake. Same thing with the whole Gay Marriage crap going on. They are trying to outlaw it and it's crap because that is making religion part of state. Just because we have LDS heads of state means that they can make that illegal. It seriously makes me infuriated. Let people marry who they want. Let their bedroom business be in their bedroom. That is their business not ours. If polygamy is what they want to practice..then so be it. If marrying the same sex is what they want to do..then for Hells's sakes let them marry who they want. As long as it's not hurting me or anyone else. Let them do it. The only problem I have with polygamy is when I hear that these poor young girls are being forced to marry these older guys. If they don't want to get married yet, don't make them. That will just make them hate the religion more. Who is that young girl that is married to Nicki's dad? I can't remember his name. Can't she be a little more...what's the word...bi*chy??? She is so full of her self it pisses me off. Sorry and I wish for the best for everyone.
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I for one grew up in Utah (Salt Lake City/Provo area)and come from a long line of LDS. I was raised going to church every Sunday and we've always been weekly temple going members. I think it is totally wrong for someone to say that the show has nothing to do with the Mormon church. Last time I checked history was a part of our church and polygomy is a part of our history. Utah is all about Mormons. Anything pratrayed there has to do with Mormons. I even find that besides a few name variations (ppl and places) Big Love is pretty accurate. If you grew up in Ut. you'd know of the rich, powerful polygomists that are there. On the show they combine the facts of 2 real polygomist families into one. And yes polygomy is alive and living in the neighborhoods of Utah. I lived by a polygomist family and my kids went to school with there kids. So the Hendricksons aren't so far fetched. Polygomy is not practiced by LDS anymore but is a major part of the history. Most of us learn from our mistakes. As did the LDS religion. Those who still believe in this way of living are those who don't learn or handle change very well. Maybe deniel of our ancestry is in order for some Mormons. Big Love is a great show for those of us without blinders on. Lets face it ppl if the mormons wouldn't have practiced polygomy all those yrs ago we wouldn't have learned it's wrong and maybe the FLDS wouldn't be trying to keep it alive.
Here's a question for you........Were we not called the Mormon/LDS Church when polygomy was practiced?? If so then I guess it does have something to do with the Mormon Church and last I checked history is a part of everything that has to do with the present modern day life. Saying polygomy has nothing to do with the Mormon Church is like saying wars in history have nothing to do with how we live life today. Big Love is a great show.
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Jun 2, 2006 12:35 PM
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> Is it just me or did anyone else think that it was
> actually Roman who was poisoning Bill's father and
> not his mother.
I was pretty sure it was Roman, yes. I don't know whether he was doing it to get to Bill, or whether he has other reasons for wanting Frank dead.
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Is it just me or did anyone else think that it was actually Roman who was poisoning Bill's father and not his mother. It seems like every time Roman would give that nasty looking drink to Bill's mom to give to his father to drink, the arsenic levels would get higher.
I like the fact that each ofthe women are individuals and that they don't act like "stepford wives". Each one has their own strengths and flaws. It is great!!
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Apr 27, 2006 9:46 AM
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> Well, I guess it had to happen eventually that HBO
> would create a series that is a complete stinker!
> I have tried watching the pilot over and over, to see
> if there was something I was missing that would make
> it click for me, but no such luck.
> I always get about 20 minutes into it before I have
> to turn it off out of sheer boredom.
> I guess it's the law of averages that HBO couldn't
> score a winner everytime.
giantfan, don't feel alone. I actually did not enjoy the first three episodes. I even told my friend that I was only going to give it until the 5th before giving up. But then it sucked me in! Now I am completely hooked. So why don't you try moving on past the pilot.
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Apr 27, 2006 9:25 AM
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Well, I guess it had to happen eventually that HBO would create a series that is a complete stinker!
I have tried watching the pilot over and over, to see if there was something I was missing that would make it click for me, but no such luck.
I always get about 20 minutes into it before I have to turn it off out of sheer boredom.
I guess it's the law of averages that HBO couldn't score a winner everytime.
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