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Despite being admonished by Bill for her spendthrift ways, Nicki tries to throw an extravagant birthday party at a hotel resort for her 5-year-old son Wayne. Meanwhile, Bill installs a "perimeter of defense" around his home; Barb tries to keep the family's secret hidden from their neighbors; Margene stands up for herself; and Bill is alarmed when Home Plus gets an unwanted visitor.
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Re: Episode 03: "Home Invasion"
Aug 13, 2006 8:37 PM
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> I watched this eppy again last night, and something
> small struck me funny. At one point, as the party is
> winding down, Adaleen asks Bill if they have any
> bicarb, as she has a "sour stomach". Then you see
> her taking an open box of baking soda (bicarbonate of
> soda) out of the refrigerator, obviously to use for
> her antacid. But most people put open boxes of A&H
> in their 'fridges to absorb odors, and don't intend
> them for consumption! It cracked me up to think of
> Adaleen mixing smelly old baking soda with water for
> her heartburn. Yuck!
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Re: Episode 03: "Home Invasion"
Aug 8, 2006 10:29 PM
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It's a Hunter Star pattern superimposed on a log cabin background, with the log cabin pattern in a 'barn raising'(I think) layout. I've been trying to find a photo of it to have a closer look - may have to wait for DVD of Epsiode 3. Google on 'hunter star', you will find out out to do the basic star pattern.
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Re: Episode 03: "Home Invasion"
Jul 13, 2006 10:43 AM
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I watched this eppy again last night, and something small struck me funny. At one point, as the party is winding down, Adaleen asks Bill if they have any bicarb, as she has a "sour stomach". Then you see her taking an open box of baking soda (bicarbonate of soda) out of the refrigerator, obviously to use for her antacid. But most people put open boxes of A&H in their 'fridges to absorb odors, and don't intend them for consumption! It cracked me up to think of Adaleen mixing smelly old baking soda with water for her heartburn. Yuck!
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but to be fearless in facing them.
Let me not beg for the stilling of my pain,
but for the heart to conquer it.
Let me not crave in anxious fear to be saved,
but for the patience to win my freedom."
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Re: Episode 03: "Home Invasion"
Jun 4, 2006 3:17 AM
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Akatty,
Interesting theory, but where do Adaleen Grant's reminiscences about Nicki's childhood come in? I'm pretty sure she's really his daughter, and really Adaleen's, and that she married Bill because she wanted to, and Nicki has a way of getting what she wants.
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Re: Episode 03: "Home Invasion"
May 26, 2006 8:40 PM
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Maybe Nikki and Roman are not really daughter and father. Perhaps Nicki was married to Roman (backshadowing the whole Rhonda deal), but was "reassigned" to Bill as part of Bill's and Roman's financial deal when Barb was sick with cancer.
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Re: Episode 03: "Home Invasion"
Apr 13, 2006 12:13 PM
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> not to mention adeline's creepy quote in front of the
> DHL guy:
>> "he's so busy nicki..(task one, task
> k two)....baptisms of the dead... we must pray for
> the blessing of his continued health."
The Saints believe in baptism of the dead, that is why the archives at Salt Lake. They do extensive geneology trying to ensure that all their family members, past and future, will be baptized so that they can be rejoined in Heaven. This belief has caused a lot of problems for them as one descendant may have converted but the remainder remained Jewish/Catholic/whatever and don't want to see old Aunt Sadie 'baptized' in her grave.
It really isn't that far off from mainstream Christian belief that says only the baptised can enter heaven. The Saints just take it farther by correcting past errors.
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Re: Episode 03: "Home Invasion"
Apr 12, 2006 5:43 PM
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Does anyone know the pattern name of the quilt hanging behind the reporters (at the compound?) that were interviewing Roman? It is some form of the Colorado Log Cabin I think. I know, I know.....let me have it. Dont think I'm not already getting hammered by my family for posting such a ridiculous request. But you know those Morman women can quilt like no other and one might just read this and have the answer! Thanks for any direction you might be able to give me.
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Re: Episode 03: "Home Invasion"
Apr 9, 2006 3:15 AM
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I am so delighted to have seen this series. I finally feel like there is such a thing as social justice. However, note to writer's-Mormons don't say God and not many play bridge. I really doubt those that were raised on compounds even know the game exists. That's an insult to those that play. I should know I was raised in Idaho as a white minority (non-mormon) and I currently reside in SLC. Other than those blunders the show rings so true and I love they way the Mormon Mafia as we call it is being depicted.
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Re: Episode 03: "Home Invasion"
Apr 4, 2006 3:45 PM
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> Did anyone notice this...
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> When Bill was outside and saw Roman - he grabbed
> Nicki and they started arguing. Ok...
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> But when he proceeded to tell Nicki that the reason
> for all the security was to protect them from Roman.
> Nicki responded by saying why can't you both settle
> e your differences.
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> Nicki didn't seem bothered that her husband had to go
> out and get this elaborate security system for 3
> houses....all because of her father. (Even though
> earlier in the episode, she told Bill that he
> shouldn't keep anything from them if something was
> going on)..
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> Am I off base or was that odd?
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> If my husband told me that he had to protect our
> family because of my father - I would want to know
> why? I would be concerned that my husband felt that
> fear....as if telling me something wrong is going on.
I noticed as Roman was leaving the room and stopped at Bill, he acknowledged that he knew about the security system by saying something like, you can try to protect yourself, but you can't hide.
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Re: Episode 03: "Home Invasion"
Apr 3, 2006 11:21 AM
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I'm not saying thier aren't holes but here are my explanations
* Could that store have been supporting Bill's family of 11 PLUS however many are in his polygamous partner's family? What would they each need to take out every month? Bill's got 3 houses. I'm thinking his draw would need to be $20K/mo.
---- They all live modestly. I am sure the cost for three homes in Utah is the same as for an efficency in NYC. Margene doesn't buy a lot or use a lot; Nikki's debt is a secret. They only eat at home; they don't have a lot of expensive things plasma tvs, etc. Simple living they might be able to live relativly inexpensivly.
* So the big bad guy came in and made the bookkeeper cut a check for $22K. Who signed it? Surely she doesn't have signatory rights on the account and a check that size might require 2 signatures. So where were the managers? Why didn't someone call the police while she was getting someone to sign the check?
----- Yeah but that could be what we find out in the next episode. the person who "stole" the check was Alby, Roman's son. And he is an idiot who just made her sign the check not realizing that it a) could be canceled three seconds later and b) in needed two singatures or other signatures. No one at the store was worried about the money loss. Basically this man came in and threatened her with his cold eyes (Roman's eyes aren't closed, they are manipulative and give you a false sense of trust) he could have taken all the tape in the office, her lunch or shoes and the reaction would have been the same.
* We see Bill lead the pony lady and the pony into the backyards for Wayne's birthday. We see her trot the pony around with Wayne on his back. But she goes home and "forgets" her pony? Her meal ticket? Gimme a break! And no one notices there's a pony wandering around out there unitl it's dark and he sets off the alarms? Stop it!!!
---- this one I don't get unless Roman had her circle back and dump the pony in the back yard. It might be her meal ticket but the meal ticket is really Roman. However, what I was confused about is why they didn't turn of the alarm ASAP.
* And now (from the preview) Bill and his doughy partner are in camouflage and they're gonna take on Roman and his whole well-organized compound?\
-- Well we now know this was just a hunting trip not a raid.
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Re: Episode 03: "Home Invasion"
Apr 3, 2006 12:18 AM
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Does anybody happen to know the name/artist responsible for the music that is played during the end credits of the "Home Invasion" episode?
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Re: Episode 03: "Home Invasion"
Apr 2, 2006 8:13 PM
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I really like the show and I'm interested in seeing where it goes but there are some glaring things that are just too hard to believe.
• Could that store have been supporting Bill's family of 11 PLUS however many are in his polygamous partner's family? What would they each need to take out every month? Bill's got 3 houses. I'm thinking his draw would need to be $20K/mo.
• So the big bad guy came in and made the bookkeeper cut a check for $22K. Who signed it? Surely she doesn't have signatory rights on the account and a check that size might require 2 signatures. So where were the managers? Why didn't someone call the police while she was getting someone to sign the check?
• We see Bill lead the pony lady and the pony into the backyards for Wayne's birthday. We see her trot the pony around with Wayne on his back. But she goes home and "forgets" her pony? Her meal ticket? Gimme a break! And no one notices there's a pony wandering around out there unitl it's dark and he sets off the alarms? Stop it!!!
• And now (from the preview) Bill and his doughy partner are in camouflage and they're gonna take on Roman and his whole well-organized compound?
Cummon HBO! You've gotta do a better job than this on the background and stories.
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Re: Episode 03: "Home Invasion"
Apr 2, 2006 8:00 PM
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> I also think their are polyamorous types who believe
> in it for non-religious reasons too.
I can assure you that you are correct. Note that what you're seeing on the show would not represent polyamory as most polyamorists understand it. Polygamy <> polyamory.
> Not sure about their self-esteem issues, though.
Issues? I have issues?!?!?
> They may just like that way. Maybe they are bi-sexual?
Like that old gag about being nuts to work here, you don't have to be, but it helps.
Seriously, why can't more people get the idea that love has nothing to do with plumbing?
Fortunately, polyamory (as opposed to polygamy) isn't illegal, and isn't likely to ever become illegal.
I just don't see why so many people want to make the rules of their religion apply to everyone else. I absolutely take religion seriously, and everyone should keep true to their beliefs. Just don't ask everyone else to "have it your way".
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Re: Episode 03: "Home Invasion"
Apr 2, 2006 7:38 PM
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SB, are you disagreeing with my comment about jealousy being about insecurity. If you are, I'm confused. You seem to agree - self-esteem/lack of and security/insecurity are the sane thing in my book.
I've known some swingers, and they seem to have the same mix of happy/unhappy marriages as everyone else, except that sexual jealousy doesn't factor into it. Other kinds of jealousy, sure.
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>
> I don't agree. Jealousy is just a product of self
> esteem. If one values themselves they feel they
> deserve to have what it theirs. When someone
> promises to love and honor in a marriage that means
> each other, male/female, man/man, woman/woman. What
> happens in plural marriages is the man (most often,
> because women have lower self esteem) feels the woman
> is not enough for him and moves on to
> legalized cheating (Same thing with the swinger
> lifestyle). It seems there is something wrong in the
> relationship. (For instance when the first wife
> could no longer give children) So it is a slap in
> the face and a hit to the self esteem to tell your
> partner...I need someone else, you are just not
> enough. I think many woman who allow this are either
> brainwashed, or have low self esteem and feel they
> could not do better in any other situation. They are
> not secure in themselves and are trying to save
> themselves a lifetime of loneliness.
> Jaelvis,
> > >
> > > I'd have to agree with you.. She does have some
> > > issues, and she's not used to being outside of
> the
> > > compound. But she seems to be letting her
> jealousy
> > > get to her.
> >
> > Jealousy is about insecurity. People who are
> secure
> > - in their marriages or anywhere else - don't get
> > jealous.
> >
> > Nicki's "jealousy" isn't about sharing Bill. It's
> > about Barb being strong and confident (and maybe
> > about her being the legal wife), and about
> Margene's
> > uninhibited joy about everything - sex, a new car.
> > Nicki doesn't have much to be confident about,
> > , except perhaps her relationship with her father,
> > and who knows what that's based on.
> > ----------------------------
> > Click here to see what's new in "Marion's New
> York."
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Re: Episode 03: "Home Invasion"
Apr 2, 2006 7:26 PM
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Big Love, like so much other television programming, is essentially lazy and indulgent entertainment that does nothing for our society and will never nourish great minds.
The only change I'd make to this sentence would be to begin it this way "_____________[insert the name of any television program other than several Paddy Chayefsky plays aired in the 50's], like so much other...etc."
Anybody interested in learning has got to READ to do it. Watching the boob tube makes a person numb and dumb.
That should be glaringly obvious to anyone who frequents HBO boards and reviews the inanities posted by 95% of the contributors.
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