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Margene's dysfunctional past is illuminated when her mother Ginger pays a visit to the Henricksons.
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Re: Episode 19: Good Guys and Bad Guys
Aug 20, 2007 10:34 PM
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i don't wannat to say it, but this episode is the worst eps. i'd ever seen. there is no tensions, surprise, not climax, very plain. esp. when Nikki and Margie were fighting on the phone, it's really childish. i don't really like this eps. hope i can see more stimulating, tension scenes in the next eps. is it because Rhonda didn't show up in the eps? it seems like whenever Rhonda shows up, she brings a lot of conflicts and tension.
i just noticed, eps. are created by diff. writers, that's why it is so diff. btw. eps. just like someone said, some scenes in this eps. are not well connected, i think that's because the shortage of time when shooting and editing.
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Re: Episode 19: Good Guys and Bad Guys
Aug 10, 2007 12:18 AM
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Marion - still love your posts and insights and at the risk of sounding sexist, am gald you are a woman. As for the name, I have usualy seen it the other way around but have never specifically followed it that way I have ... Sarah for instance: with or without the H.
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Re: Episode 19: Good Guys and Bad Guys
Aug 9, 2007 10:28 PM
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> Marion (most probably a man due to spelling with the
> O not an A)- I love reading your comments and
> insights. It is such fun to peruse your well thought
> out ideas - keep 'em coming!
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sarajese, thank you! But I'm female - the "o" is the most common spelling for a woman, too. I've met a number of Marions and very few Marians.
Check my website if you don't believe me!
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Re: Episode 19: Good Guys and Bad Guys
Aug 9, 2007 6:23 PM
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To me, just because the role is played by a woman does not necessarily mean the character IS a woman - it is just a hint. It is not unknown for actors to play against gender. However we look at it, definitely a need for more branches in the Greene family tree! Hollis almost makes Roman look good. Marion (most probably a man due to spelling with the O not an A)- I love reading your comments and insights. It is such fun to peruse your well thought out ideas - keep 'em coming!
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Re: Episode 19: Good Guys and Bad Guys
Aug 9, 2007 9:44 AM
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I think there was a case of some bad-editing at play here. In one scene, Bill's dad is grabbing his mom, threatening to beat her if she doesn't tell him where her money from the laundromat business is. A couple of scenes later, the mom is alone when Barb and Wanda come in, and then BIll's dad comes back in and the mom threatens him with a shotgun.
My question is, where the hell did the dad go in between those scenes? He was about to beat the mom and then what? He just left and came back? Why didn't the mom pull out the shotgun earlier? Hmmm...
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Re: Episode 19: Good Guys and Bad Guys
Aug 9, 2007 9:12 AM
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> Regarding Selma Green - s/he could be a man with that
> name. I have known men named Laverne, Shirley, and a
> few others that escape my memory at this time.
"Marion," for one - it's John Wayne's real name. (Marion Morrison.)
However, the fact that Selma is played by a woman really says it all.
> I
> think whatever s/he is, it is meant to be a result of
> too much inbreeding. Due to their attempt to perfect
> their family line, their family tree is short a few
> branches.
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As Don said, "Hollis and Selma are products of a limited gene pool."
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Re: Episode 19: Good Guys and Bad Guys
Aug 9, 2007 4:29 AM
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Regarding Selma Green - s/he could be a man with that name. I have known men named Laverne, Shirley, and a few others that escape my memory at this time. I think whatever s/he is, it is meant to be a result of too much inbreeding. Due to their attempt to perfect their family line, their family tree is short a few branches.
"Let's take a dive in the shallow end of the gene pool."
And of course: "Incest - the game the whole family can play" adds ne meaning to Monday Night Family Home Evening.
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Re: Episode 19: Good Guys and Bad Guys: Reassigning
Aug 9, 2007 4:01 AM
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WantstobeNicki,
> But, she does not abuse her
> "princess" position.
Doesn't she? I'd call stealing all the tithes an abuse of her relationship to the family.
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Re: Episode 19: Good Guys and Bad Guys: Reassigning
Aug 8, 2007 10:15 PM
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> Roman can do what he wants because his followers
> believe he is The Prophet. He totally abuses his
> power, as does his son. Nicki does not abuse her
> power. When that compound police officer came to her
> house and spit in her salad, she did nothing. She
> should have called her father and brother and told
> them what he did. But, she does not abuse her
> "princess" position.
Considering that Roman suspected Nicki and Bill of taking and harboring Rhonda, and that later Adaleen tells Nicki that she's "disowned" (scene at the runaway shelter), her princess position is a bit precarious.
Morrighan
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Re: Episode 19: Good Guys and Bad Guys: Reassigning
Aug 8, 2007 5:20 PM
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> The prophet reserves the right to reassign wives to
> more worthy men. Do you remember that episode with
> the wheelchair bound old man with three wives who
> helped Bill get on the board of the UEB? Roman
> reassigned his wives to other men. Bill told them
> they didn't have to do it. One of the wives replied,
> "But he's the prophet!"
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> > Joey, Wanda and Kathy.
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> > In an episode Roman mentioned 'reassigning' Wanda
> to
> > a more worthy husband. If these marriages are Holy
> > Covenants, how can they be assigned and reassigned
> at
> > the pleasure of Roman.
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> > When Frank's first wife died, Lois wanted to be
> > 'married' legally. Does this mean assigned as
> > 'first', or legal at the court house?
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> > If Wanda is a wife by assignment, could Joey marry
> > Kathy at the local court house, without going
> through
> > Roman?
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> > Did Bill ask permission to marry Margene?
Roman can do what he wants because his followers believe he is The Prophet. He totally abuses his power, as does his son. Nicki does not abuse her power. When that compound police officer came to her house and spit in her salad, she did nothing. She should have called her father and brother and told them what he did. But, she does not abuse her "princess" position.
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Re: Episode 19: Good Guys and Bad Guys
Aug 8, 2007 4:59 AM
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VegasLove,
You're all missing the most intrinsic, fundamental attribute of all of humanity:
People suck.
LOL! I can't believe I missed this post. ROTFLMAO!
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Re: Episode 19: Good Guys and Bad Guys
Aug 8, 2007 4:45 AM
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Wurks - would you mind posting a link to your backstory on this board?
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Re: Episode 19: Good Guys and Bad Guys
Aug 8, 2007 4:45 AM
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wurks4me,
> An onion for you. For that one.
Yes, it was a bit of a long shot. I was going for that whole Treasure of the Sierra Madre thing. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stinking_badges
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Re: Episode 19: Good Guys and Bad Guys
Aug 8, 2007 2:35 AM
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> We don't need no stinkin' onions!
> (we already have "report" and "ignore.")
An onion for you. For that one.
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Re: Episode 19: Good Guys and Bad Guys
Aug 6, 2007 10:19 PM
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i think Margene's mother is horrible. This episode made me think that what happened between Margi and her mother has happened Margi's whole life!?! err! Nikki, really? i mean just cause you have a horrible cold-hearted mother doesn't mean you can have Mari's. . . . mother that is
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