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Hi All
I am new to this forum, dont really know how to navigate it yet, so dont know if this question has been asked yet. HOW did Barb get into the Temple without a Temple Recommend? Her sister and mother were there so she couldn't have used theirs. Please help as this has been bugging me and I watched this episode over and over looking for clues!
Thanks
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Re: Barb's Temple Recommend
May 18, 2009 11:59 PM
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inthecloset,
Many people have made suggestions about how Barb could have gotten access to a temple recommend only to have someone else make an argument for why that could not have happened. That is why I keep going back to "It does not matter how, we just need to accept that it happened." How is not important. What is important is Barb's feelings about losing access to the Temple.
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Re: Barb's Temple Recommend
May 18, 2009 12:24 AM
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LDS Temple Recommends have a bar code on the end. They are scanned when you enter. Anyone could steal someone's wallet and get in. And Barb's sister would have had access to getting a blank one to forge or perhaps, they would have just stolen one. They don't check your ID with your recommend. So it would be very plausible to get one, if someone wasn't careful with theirs or if Barb's sister managed to get a blank one. It just needs two different signatures, one of the Bishopric and one from a member of a stake presidency but no one checks to see if signatures would match, but then again, the bar code would mean that the number is specifically assigned to a ward or branch, so my guess is one of them swiped one from their friends wallet, another reason not to carry it in your wallet.
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Re: Barb's Temple Recommend
May 17, 2009 2:29 AM
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> Hi Marigoldmama
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> It's like a "whodunnit" 
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> Maybe in Season Four they'll reveal how she got in.
> I also love Cindy although I prefered her character
> r when she was in control and deliciously mean to
> Barb.
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> Hippilily
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I think it is more of a "it doesn't really matter" how she got in. We are just being asked to accept that somehow, Barb was able to get into the Temple.
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Re: Barb's Temple Recommend
May 16, 2009 9:34 PM
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Hi Marigoldmama
It's like a "whodunnit"
Maybe in Season Four they'll reveal how she got in. I also love Cindy although I prefered her character when she was in control and deliciously mean to Barb.
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Re: Barb's Temple Recommend
May 16, 2009 9:32 PM
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Hi Withay
I also thought it was touching that the ceremony was so important to Barb. She seems to miss the Mainstream LDS Church.
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Re: Barb's Temple Recommend
May 5, 2009 10:45 AM
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Withay wrote: But even more important, IMO, was showing how sacred and important the Temple was to Barb and how devastating it was to believe she was losing the Temple and all it represented. Whether or not I share her beliefs, I was touched by the sense of loss she was showing.
I agree, it was very touching and it showed a lot of how Barb was feeling, what she was giving up etc.
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Re: Barb's Temple Recommend
May 5, 2009 10:43 AM
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Sun wrote:I think the idea of Ted pulling some strings so Barb could get in is much less probable.
Oh, I don't think Ted had anything to do with it. I think he is too worried about his image.
I think Cindy, by knowledge acquired from being married to somehow so high up, knew exactly how to find a weak spot in the system and use it.
CIndy is a slippery person and has proven to be decietful in a few things. She would know how to get Barb in. ![]:)](http://boards.hbo.com/images/emoticons/devil.gif) If anyone could do it, it had to be Cindy.
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Re: Barb's Temple Recommend
May 5, 2009 9:29 AM
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The "how" of Barb's TR is probably something the writers didn't want to mess with.
From the storyline, the most plausible explanation is that before the Henrickson's moved to their three houses in Sandy, Barb was "keeping up appearances" at her LDS ward. We know that she had some level of LDS activity because she knew the Bishop well, Ben knew and trusted the Bishop, Bill knew that Barb "still misses LDS" etc.
This is all the more plausible in that for the last several years, TRs have been renewed every two years.
I think the idea of Ted pulling some strings so Barb could get in is much less probable.
In the end, I think the writers just didn't want to mess with this stuff and were content to leave it ambiguous.
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Re: Barb's Temple Recommend
May 5, 2009 8:24 AM
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> I agree with withay that this is just creative
> license. After all, we hear all the time that LDS
> people won't watch this show. So I don't think the
> creators put absolute accuracy above telling a good
> story.
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> They wanted to show the endowments ceremony, at least
> in part, and they didn't have major characters in the
> show who would be receiving their endowments.
> (Allowing for the fact that the whole family would
> d become part of the church of Dad.) So they found a
> way to show Barb going through the ceremony.
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> I think their purpose was to show the ceremony and
> the temple, and Barb was the means they found.
I think they wanted to show the endowment ceremony. After all, this is TV and the name of the game is ratings! Talk of showing the Temple and endowments ceremony certainly got people talking about Big Love and probably increased veiwers for that week, at least.
But even more important, IMO, was showing how sacred and important the Temple was to Barb and how devastating it was to believe she was losing the Temple and all it represented. Whether or not I share her beliefs, I was touched by the sense of loss she was showing.
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Re: Barb's Temple Recommend
May 4, 2009 10:25 AM
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Cindy's husband, Ted is supposed to be high up in the church.
I bet Cindy knew of some way to somehow deceive and somehow get Barb what she needed to do what she wanted.
I'm NOT suggesting that the LDS are deceitful people and I'm sure their system is effective and not easily tampered with like Zoar says it is.
I just think that if anyone would know how to manipulate the rules or find a loop hole, it would be Cindy because of her access to Ted.
Cindy also was the one who caused this ex communication so her guilt might propel her to do something "outside the box" to get her sister in there.
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Re: Barb's Temple Recommend
May 4, 2009 6:46 AM
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Is it possible that Cindy lent Barb Ted's recommend, or do husbands and wives share one?
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Re: Barb's Temple Recommend
May 3, 2009 4:17 PM
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I agree with withay that this is just creative license. After all, we hear all the time that LDS people won't watch this show. So I don't think the creators put absolute accuracy above telling a good story.
They wanted to show the endowments ceremony, at least in part, and they didn't have major characters in the show who would be receiving their endowments. (Allowing for the fact that the whole family would become part of the church of Dad.) So they found a way to show Barb going through the ceremony.
I think their purpose was to show the ceremony and the temple, and Barb was the means they found.
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Re: Barb's Temple Recommend
May 3, 2009 12:35 AM
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> > Withay, I totally agree. I think that is why
> they
> > didn't show us exactly how it happened. They
> did
> > however write in such a way that there are
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> > suspicions of how this could be pulled off.
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> Well, I am open to theories, If anyone can come up
> p with some
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As I said, I think it would be very unlikely in Real Life but in TV World Barb may have found a friend who felt sorry for her and loaned her their Temple Recommend.
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Re: Barb's Temple Recommend
May 2, 2009 10:45 PM
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> Withay, I totally agree. I think that is why they
> didn't show us exactly how it happened. They did
> however write in such a way that there are several
> suspicions of how this could be pulled off.
Well, I am open to theories, If anyone can come up with some
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Re: Barb's Temple Recommend
May 2, 2009 3:16 PM
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Withay, I totally agree. I think that is why they didn't show us exactly how it happened. They did however write in such a way that there are several suspicions of how this could be pulled off.
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