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She certainly handled the situation correctly and let Ben know she wasn't going to entertain any feelings he felt he had for her . . . .
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is the damage already done?
Marge is closer in age to Ben than she is to Bill, and they've always joked around more like friends than mother and son (playing in the pool, chasing each other with water guns).
I know she TOLD him to get over it, but feelings don't just go away.
Marge is a beautiful woman and he is now aware of her in a sexual way.
I really wish they would have had Marge read that note!!!!
How do you think Ben is going to handle his feelings -- or better yet, how do you think he should handle them?
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Mar 9, 2009 12:19 AM
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I REALLY want something more to happen between Margene and Ben but i don't think it will happen this season. Marge is just trying to deny her feelings for Ben but I think they will eventually surface again. Its sweet to see them together because they are are both so happy when they are together and they only get the full attention that they need from eachother.
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Mar 2, 2009 5:49 PM
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I think they might develop this relationship further in future episodes because Margene is lonely. As someone pointed out already she is the third wife, hardly a priority for Bill, who is primarily devoted to Barb. On top of that she's had to spend all day alone at home with the kids while everyone else is at work. She is desperate for adult contact and Pam just isn't cutting it. I also think the antidepressants might help change her relationship with Ben. It might somehow affect her inhibitions and make her more open to him.
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Feb 24, 2009 6:29 PM
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> I think Margene has cooled Bens misplaced love for
> her I have never seen her so angry and really meaning
> what she said, as when she confronted Ben. She will
> be on her guard now and will avoid being alone with
> him. If Ben persists, a slap on the face will tell
> him She is not fooling around. Now she just has to
> explain it to Teenie before Teenie tells Barb or Bill
> something that is not true.
You really think that Ben's feelings are all gone, just because Margene said no? You think it's that easy? Ben's been carrying a torch for Margene for three seasons now. I don't think it's going to go away with one slap.
I do think it's all on Ben's side.
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Feb 24, 2009 6:27 PM
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I think Margene has cooled Bens misplaced love for her I have never seen her so angry and really meaning what she said, as when she confronted Ben. She will be on her guard now and will avoid being alone with him. If Ben persists, a slap on the face will tell him She is not fooling around. Now she just has to explain it to Teenie before Teenie tells Barb or Bill something that is not true.
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Feb 24, 2009 5:12 PM
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> Two,
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> > What if everyone chose to live like the Quakers?
> How
> > would we get food to the grocery stores by using
> a
> > horse & buggy?
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Just to be clear, the Amish (the people with the horses and buggies) are NOT Quakers.
The image of Quakers with the black clothes and bonnets, a la Quaker Oats, is several centuries old. It had the same purpose as Amish dress - to dress "plain," without ornamentation - and was in contrast to 18th-century folks with luxurious clothes, wigs and jewelry.
Quakers look like everybody else nowadays, though they might wear more subdued colors and less jewelry. But you wouldn't know anything about their religious affiliation to look at them. (I grew up as one.)
Edit: Ah, I see others have pointed this out already.
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Feb 24, 2009 5:01 PM
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Ben was starting to behave too normal. They had to give him some disorder or syndrome to keep him in this dysfunctional family.
We will probably find out that Teeny got her magazine from under Ben's mattress.
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Feb 24, 2009 4:24 PM
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> The part of this story that doesn't make sense to me
> is that Ben knows Margene sleeps with his Dad. I
> mean, I know she's young and cute... but she sleeps
> with his Dad.... EWWW.
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> Love this show!
I hear you! But think about, the boundaries in this family are loose.
Ben is seeing his father hop from bed to bed. He's not saying he find Margene attractive -- he's saying he's in love with her.
In his mind, maybe this trumps the "ewwww" factor.
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Feb 24, 2009 4:07 PM
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The part of this story that doesn't make sense to me is that Ben knows Margene sleeps with his Dad. I mean, I know she's young and cute... but she sleeps with his Dad.... EWWW.
Love this show!
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Feb 23, 2009 5:17 PM
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I think he is going to pursue it because he has had feelings for her for a while and this is the thing that pushed him to say something.
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Feb 23, 2009 4:25 PM
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I think that it was chilling how authoritative and motherly she was with him. A great side to have with some one who is as light and cheery and upbeat as she is. It just show that she is good as a mother. Fun when the time is appropriate and stern when need be. She fits in well..She's as good a mother as Barb or Nikki. Just younger which may be her down fall.
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Feb 23, 2009 4:24 PM
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> Margene has always had a crush on Ben and she just
> doesn't want to admit it. I am glad she handled it
> like an adult... But at the same time she kind of
> created the situation too.
I don't think Margene has EVER had a crush on Ben. I think he's always had one on her.
> BTW... How in the hell did they both wind up naked
> like that? She's sharing a room with Ben and comes
> out totally nude?
Were they sharing a room? I didn't realize. She'd gone in to take a shower, and I don't think she knew anyone else was there. He has to have known someone was in the shower, but I guess he didn't expect her to come out.
I don't think it's that big a deal. I saw my Mom naked a bunch of times. One time I was staying with them and she forgot, and came out of the shower and threw her towel over the railing (the washer and dryer were on the lower level,) before realizing I was in the living room and could see her. It was hysterically funny--you had to be there. But she was really my real Mom--no weirdness there.
Ben's problem with Margene, is that no matter how many times she says she's his mother, she's not his mother. She's 5 years older than he is, and she's his father's third wife. THIRD. It's probably very hard for Ben to take that relationship seriously right now.
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Feb 23, 2009 3:51 PM
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Margene has always had a crush on Ben and she just doesn't want to admit it. I am glad she handled it like an adult... But at the same time she kind of created the situation too.
BTW... How in the hell did they both wind up naked like that? She's sharing a room with Ben and comes out totally nude?
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Feb 23, 2009 3:28 PM
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This is the DYSFUNCTION.
EVERYONE'S in the way of EVERYONE ELSE.
Keeps BUTTING into the BUSINESS of everyone else when they should STAY OUT of it & mind their own damn business.
At least that's the way I see it.
Do you think Teenie will tell her parents about that note Ben wrote?
I think Tennie will definitely tell. Everyone in this family says, don't tell anyone -- and then the person tells!!!!
I thought the way Ben was telling Margene, it's okay, was very mature!
He looked so serious, like her just KNEW what was going on.
Wouldn't it be a disaster if Margene reacted so harshly because she shares some of his feelings?
I mean we never see this but it's possible!
I do think Ben makes a better partner for Margene than Bill.
It's so funny, in a sad way, everyone in this family is so lonely and misunderstood.
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Feb 23, 2009 3:00 PM
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> > Hi two and Titannia
> > I think you guys are talking about Amish
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> > Quakers don't use horse and buggies anymore
> > Quakers are regular people - but the term
> quaker
> > refers to their way of praying and religion
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> You're right-I should have pointed that out, too.
> Sorry.
I live in PA - we are oozing with Quakers and Amish 
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Feb 23, 2009 2:56 PM
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Katiesnyder,
> I think Margene did handle the situation in the right
> way. the only thing I would have done differently is
> talk to Bill. I wouldn't have told barb or Nikki but
> Bill would be able to talk to ben and let him know
> that the feelings that he has are completely normal
> but that he should consider where he is placing them.
Bill would not have a clue, katiesnyder.
> Ben is becoming a man and he is looking at women the way a man looks at women, but Margene is his fathers wife and his mother.
Ben has had sex. He knows what he's feeling. Margene isn't his mother. She's just his father's wife. She's like a stepmom or a babysitter to Ben. He's never seen her as his "mother" and he never will.
> Bill could then encourage more
> time for Ben to spend with kids his own age.
BTDT--Ben already spent time with kids his own age. It did not go well. Other polygamist kids--Jason, Frankie, Rhonda, Nuss--are too screwed up. And other kids who aren't polygamist won't accept Ben.
Bill's really done a nice little number on Ben, and all his kids, IMO.
> As for getting in each others way, I completely agree
> that this family sees more down times than up, which
> is why Barb made that comment "If this is righteous
> than why is this happening" (or something to that
> effect) but I also think it is way to late for Bill
> he has children with each of these women and because
> of that responsibility he will not leave them. Barb
> will probably leave at some point maybe even Nikki
> but Margene is here to stay.
I don't think Barb will leave. But I think it's just a matter of time before Nicki realizes she never wanted this in the first place.
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