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If anyone has read a good book lately or has seen a good movie or tv show; and would like to post the name & author, or share some of what the book is about, please go right ahead.
There are several movies on the market and many books to browse. So if you have any books or movies that you would like to discuss or simply give the name etc.
This way, it will be easy to sporadically check out this thread to see what updates and follow-ups pertaining to a specific book or movie or tv show that's available for anyone who has the niche to read or watch some tv.
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Re: Movies/Books on topics related to Big Love
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Duets - Stolen Innocence was co-written by a woman named Lisa Pulitzer - someone I worked with a few times in NY. Unfortunately, though Lisa has a talent for writing newspaper articles occasionally for the NY Times, I don't think this was her best work. Too bad because the story is compelling in adifferent way from Carolyn Jessop's story and would make for a good read. To me, it went flat in the middle somewhere.
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Re: Movies/Books on topics related to Big Love
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> >
> > I know -- the Great Commission, the parable of
> the
> > Wedding Feast, John 3:3 & 3:16 and all the rest.
> I've
> > just come to believe that it would be such a
> waste of
> > time and humanity for God to judge eternity
> based on
> > such a small decision in such a tiny portion of
> the
> > time.
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> To me that is the whole point; that God loves us so
> much that He does not require anything terribly
> complicated for salvation. Just for us to understand
> and believe that Christ died for the forgiveness of
> our sins. That there are many things that He wants us
> to do, that many things that we do or do not do cause
> Him sorrow. But that salvation is a gift that has
> very few qualifications on it.
> But that is just my belief.
Yes'm and there are many Bible verses that point us in that direction. My favorite Christian artist and perhaps my favorite overall singer is Keith Green and his music expresses more missionary zeal than you would want to hear anywhere -- but I just try to ignore that part or turn the lyrics into something I can live with, i.e. when he sings:
Do you see, do you see
All the people sinking down
Don't you care, are ya gonna let them drown?
How can you be so dead
When you've been so well fed?
Jesus rose from the grave
and you ...
You can't even get out of bed
I know he's talking about "witnessing to the lost", "winning the world for Christ" yada yada -- maybe I've been over-sensitized to the issue from going so far into the BaC vs. Mormon wars, maybe it was too much talking to people who visited our little Baptist church & visiting them in their houses with the Pastor on the little Wednesday night "soul-winning" missions. Maybe I just don't like being responsible for decisions that belong in someone else's court.
But I love the way Keith Green understands the heart of Jesus and that's why i love his music. And when he sings, "Do you see all the people sinking down" I do think of people's spiritual and physical needs and I do believe that we are called to reach the world. I also believe that Christ is the gate that leads to God -- I just think that some people are so deadset against Christianity that it becomes a stumbling block to tell them that they must accept that relationship in order to have any dialogue with God.
I believe that God loves all of His children and I believe that He is willing to open any dialogue He can get with them. I believe that God loves Jews, Christians, Muslims, Mormons, Hindus, witches and even atheists and I believe He wants to meet them right where they are and speak to their hearts. And I believe that this journey that each individual takes in this world is a pact between that person and their Heavenly Father -- I think it is therefore more helpful to people to help them unlock that inner puzzle than it is to force our version of Christianity on them -- but that's just me. 
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Aug 18, 2008 1:20 AM
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>
> I know -- the Great Commission, the parable of the
> Wedding Feast, John 3:3 & 3:16 and all the rest. I've
> just come to believe that it would be such a waste of
> time and humanity for God to judge eternity based on
> such a small decision in such a tiny portion of the
> time.
>
To me that is the whole point; that God loves us so much that He does not require anything terribly complicated for salvation. Just for us to understand and believe that Christ died for the forgiveness of our sins. That there are many things that He wants us to do, that many things that we do or do not do cause Him sorrow. But that salvation is a gift that has very few qualifications on it.
But that is just my belief.
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> I've come to believe that each of us has a personal
> calling that's as unique as a fingerprint - and that
> the best way to succeed is to discover what you love
> and then find a way to offer it to others in the form
> of service, working hard, and also allowing the
> energy of the universe to lead you. - Oprah Winfrey
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Re: Movies/Books on topics related to Big Love
Aug 17, 2008 9:34 PM
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> JH,
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> Was it a good read?
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> Now I don't know if I'll get ALL of this one read,
> I'm really only interested in the Mormonism &
> Christian Science part.
> Hubby's 1/2 of the family are Christian Science, and
> I really have very little knowledge of it. Then of
> course, I want to read the Mormon part.
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> I'm not converting to another religion or anything,
> I'm just interested in this kind of stuff.
It's certainly not going to convert you to any other religions. It comes from a very strict Evangelical (BaC) POV.
Christian Science is wrong because they focus on the teachings of Mary Baker Eddy over the Bible and our Lord Jesus Christ, amen.
The Jehovah's Witnesses were started by a man who rewrote the Bible himself.
The Mormons are wrong because Joseph Smith puts his revelation, the BoM, above the Bible.
The Seventh Day Adventists are wrong because they emphasize Old Testament laws over NT grace in clear disregard of Peter's vision.
Yada-yada -- that's it in a nutshell -- but it's been a long time.
To me the whole point of Evangelical Christianity is to warn all the other religions (and non-religions) that they are all going to hell for eternity if they don't realize that Jesus died for their sins.
Well, I believe it was necessary for Christ to pay the penalty to bridge the gap between man & God -- I just can't believe that God holds people accountable for hearing that story and believing it in order to apply the blood -- if ya know what i mean.
I think God is looking at other things and I think it is counterproductive for people to tie themselves up in knots worrying about other people's relationship with God.
I know -- the Great Commission, the parable of the Wedding Feast, John 3:3 & 3:16 and all the rest. I've just come to believe that it would be such a waste of time and humanity for God to judge eternity based on such a small decision in such a tiny portion of the time.
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Aug 17, 2008 9:09 PM
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JH,
Was it a good read?
Now I don't know if I'll get ALL of this one read, I'm really only interested in the Mormonism & Christian Science part.
Hubby's 1/2 of the family are Christian Science, and I really have very little knowledge of it. Then of course, I want to read the Mormon part.
I'm not converting to another religion or anything, I'm just interested in this kind of stuff.
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Re: Movies/Books on topics related to Big Love
Aug 17, 2008 9:02 PM
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> The Four Major Cults, by Anthony A
> Hoekiem
I devoured that one about 30-35 years ago when my dad was trying to convert me.
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Re: Movies/Books on topics related to Big Love
Aug 17, 2008 8:32 PM
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Here's a list of a few books that I've checked out from the library to read:
Differing Visions by Launius & Thatcher
Discusses dissenters in Mormon History
The Four Major Cults, by Anthony A Hoekiem
This book discusses Christian Science, Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormonism, & Seventh-day Adventism.
Mormonism- Shadow or Reality? , by Jerald & Sandra Tanner
He Loves Me---She Loves Me Not, by Stacie Lee Hewitt
A Polygamist Wife's Story
American Massacre, by Sally Denton
This book is about the Mountain Meadow Massacre.
Paperdolls, by April Daniels & Carol Scott
A true story of childhood sexual abuse in Mormon Neighborhoods.
Prostitution, Polygamyk, & Power, by Jeffrey Nichols
A Different Jesus?, by Robert L. Millet
The Christ of the Latter-Day Saints
I picked up these books just prior to going out of town. I haven't had alot of time here lately to read; however, Iplan to get back into reading as soon as things slow down a bit around here.
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Aug 10, 2008 1:56 AM
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What Is Mormonism All About?
by W. E. Walker Johanson
Answers to the 150 most commonly asked questions about the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
I enjoyed reading this, it was light, entertaining, and easy to read. (Q-A)
A great read to answer questions that are curious to you; and maybe you have no one to ask.
The author was raised in the Presbyterian & Methodist faiths. he joined the Mormon Church later as an adult.
Recommend, short easy read, 226pp
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Re: Movies/Books on topics related to Big Love
Jul 27, 2008 2:44 AM
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Stolen Innocence by Elissa Wall with Lisa Pulitzer
"My story of Growing up in a Polygamous Sect, Becoming a Teenage Bride, and Breaking Free of Warren Jeff's"
Well, we all now how this story ends. What we don't know is how this young girl dealt with being married at such an early age, and to a cousin which she couldn't stand. It's interesting as she tells of her life since birth into FLDS.
This story is written thru the eyes of Elissa. It's an interesting story to read. I won't go into much detail here, because I know a few of you are currently reading or plan to read this book.
I will note that the editor of this book could have done a much better job. I'm sure it must have been a rush job to get this book on the market so quickly; but the typo's etc were rather distracting. Maybe the spell checker didn't work?
I will also say that this book offers the reader insight as to being married at the age of fourteen. The many ways that Warren Jeff's treated and insulted her. She was quiet the dare-devil in her own right.
Recommend if you're interested in Elissa telling her own story, her way, without the prophet telling her what to say.
431pp, it's a long one.
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Jul 26, 2008 8:37 PM
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> > BZ, all I did was check out the homepage -- but,
> my
> > goodness, comparing Christians to Nazis --
> that's not
> > your style -- was that like a joke?
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> JH
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> No that was not my intention. I was just trying to
> make a point. There are many sites like that on the
> internet that attempt to discredit Christianity and
> other religions as frauds and this one is definitely
> run by an atheist. When people like the Tanners put
> up websites trying to defame Mormonism, people should
> be aware that others are doing the same to
> Christianity. I am sure the Tanners are sincere in
> their beliefs in trying to dissuade people from
> Mormonism but anti-Christians would believe they are
> sincere too..
Yessir, I understand. You are just so gentlemanly in your manner that I didn't realize that there was any enmity from you toward the link that Duets posted.
I skimmed over the Tanner website about the same way I did the link you posted. I thought the Joseph Smith quote on the Tanner site was rather inflammatory -- I'd never really heard JS comport himself bragadociously in that manner.
I've been thru these LDS vs. Christian missionary flame wars as much as anyone and I've gone from being an active participant to (hopefully) a peacemaker. I think I understand both sides pretty well and I'm not sure why it's so important for the Evangelicals to keep insisting that Mormons are "UnChristian" except for that "most recent Revelation" phenomenon and the resultant feeling that your faith is being invalidated if you give any credence to the other's claims. I've seen many non-Charismatic Evangelicals reacting in almost the same manner toward Charismatics -- the common link -- the more recent revelation. I've heard them say, "Speaking in tongues is of the devil" and other similar things. They do stop short of saying their not Christian -- just deceived by the Devil.
Ah well, whaddayagonnado? Faith, Hope and Love abide, but the greatest of these is love. They will know we are Christians by our love.
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Jul 26, 2008 7:49 PM
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> BZ, all I did was check out the homepage -- but, my
> goodness, comparing Christians to Nazis -- that's not
> your style -- was that like a joke?
JH
No that was not my intention. I was just trying to make a point. There are many sites like that on the internet that attempt to discredit Christianity and other religions as frauds and this one is definitely run by an atheist. When people like the Tanners put up websites trying to defame Mormonism, people should be aware that others are doing the same to Christianity. I am sure the Tanners are sincere in their beliefs in trying to dissuade people from Mormonism but anti-Christians would believe they are sincere too..
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Jul 26, 2008 1:00 PM
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I scrolled down through some of the pages. . .it covers quite a few symbols and where they fit into christianity, where they came from, etc.
however, I did not like the general tone it sets. . .
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Jul 26, 2008 12:13 PM
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> > They have a huge list of books/dvd's which
> address
> > Mormonism, history etc. Check it out!
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> taking equal opportunity check out this link. It is
> very eye opening and it is not an LDS site. This guy
> has been researching religion since the 50?s
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> http://www.jordanmaxwell.com/articles/religion/index.h
> tml
BZ, all I did was check out the homepage -- but, my goodness, comparing Christians to Nazis -- that's not your style -- was that like a joke?
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Jul 26, 2008 8:03 AM
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> I've come across a bookstore which lists books
> "online" for purchase.
> For anyone interested, here's a link. Utah Lighthouse Ministry
> Bookstore
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> This bookstore is owned by Sandra Tanner & belated
> husband- Jerald. It is located in Salt Lake City,
> UT. Sandra is the great-great-grand-daughter of
> Brigham Young. She was brought up Mormon; but has
> since converted to Christianity.
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> They have a huge list of books/dvd's which address
> Mormonism, history etc. Check it out!
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taking equal opportunity check out this link. It is very eye opening and it is not an LDS site. This guy has been researching religion since the 50?s
http://www.jordanmaxwell.com/articles/religion/index.html
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Jul 26, 2008 3:04 AM
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I've come across a bookstore which lists books "online" for purchase.
For anyone interested, here's a link. Utah Lighthouse Ministry Bookstore
This bookstore is owned by Sandra Tanner & belated husband- Jerald. It is located in Salt Lake City, UT. Sandra is the great-great-grand-daughter of Brigham Young. She was brought up Mormon; but has since converted to Christianity.
They have a huge list of books/dvd's which address Mormonism, history etc. Check it out!
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