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When does season 3 start?????
Does anyone know? I can't find anything on the HBO website.
Thanks for your help!
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Jul 3, 2008 7:23 PM
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Tsar, you've made some good points about Margene.I have often wondered about her past as well.She probably gravitated to being a little "easy" because of her chaotic homelife and her mother's "revolving door of boyfreinds".One episode had Nikki freaking out to Barb about whether Margene and Bill "did it" before they were married.Barb's reply was "what does it matter now?".Perhaps Bill did marry somewhat out of pity and concern for her salvation.I think he genuine loves her and thinks more of her than the "Play thing".However Bill and Barb's relationship to her sometimes seems like a parental figure.Margene is a sweetheart and really can't be blamed for her background ,but at times she does seem a little kid like.She also does not seem to know much about their beliefs, but she loves being part of a stable, functional household.She has a soft heart and loves everyone, and would be a dream wife for alot of men-young, playful, pretty and a libido going through the roof.
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Jul 3, 2008 2:39 PM
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IMO, Margene is just now (post baptism) realizing what she got herself into. . .pre being "part" of the Hendrickson "Family" Margene was the good time girl, who dated a man, even if she knew he was married and would have no problem with it. There was one episode that it was alluded to that she and Bill had *gasp* premarital sex!!! Having the other wife's (wives) permission (to date) made her cool with everything. I'm thinking that Bill "married" her out of propriety??? (To make her an honest woman, and to absolve him from adultery and/or fornication????) as well as out of love (that deepened) and that remains when lust fades????
Am I making sense???
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Jul 3, 2008 9:09 AM
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I agree...even tho very different, Nicki and Barb bonded during Barb's illness. They are also mature and responsible. Have nothing against Margene...she just doesn't fit and I would have thought #3 would be another compound bride (Bill being beholding to Roman) or someone more like Don's wives.
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Jul 3, 2008 3:06 AM
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> I believe the "non holy spirit" in Bill's lower half
> was the testimony he received to bring home an 18
> year old hottie. It will be interesting to see how
> he explains his "testimony" for Ana to Barb and Nicki
> in S3 after he clearly told Margene his attraction to
> Ana was just lust.
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> As for the vote, I still believe Nicki was not the
> only "no" vote. I cannot imagine that Barb would
> vote in such an obvious mismatch to the family. And
> when pressed never admits to Margene that she voted
> for her and just changes the subject. I wouldn't be
> surprised if Bill didn't override them...he is
> notorious for doing exactly as he pleases.
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> Edited by chloe15 at 06/25/2008 4:46 AM PDT
I think you are on to something here Chloe. Her age upon becoming the 3rd wife is what bothers me. Don't get me wrong I like Margene. However, I guess whenever a man becomes in LUST with a woman not much older than his children, I find it unattractive. It's just that I have never fully understood the attraction, but that's what makes horse races right?
Also, her lack of intellect for the most part. I don't mean to be snobbish and I would be the last person to say, "don't marry this person because she didn't go to college" but man she's really YOUNG in her approach to life sometimes. That said, I'm glad she is a part of the show.
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Jul 2, 2008 9:12 PM
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> >
> > Bill is OK with dating a non-Mormon? Marrying
> the
> > non-Mormon and then having kids with her? A
> few
> > years later, she finally converts.
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> I don't think it is that odd. . .I'm RC and I've seen
> quite a few marriages where the Non RC must agree to
> take instruction (whether they are baptized or
> accpeted later is another matter) and to raise any
> children in the RC faith. Maybe it's something like
> that???? Zoar. . .can you guide us here???
Tsariname,
Using Margene as an example, she was baptized and she did acknowledge that she was part of their faith. That might have been the way the writers wanted it to happen. In the first season, Margene seemed to be on the outside most of the time. After the baptism, she became more assertive about her place in the family. Even Nicki seems to accept her as legitimate for the most part. She is Nicki?s equal as far as their religion is concerned. The steps are out of order. It should be as you said instruction and then baptism. Margene has done the reverse.
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Jul 2, 2008 6:39 PM
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> Bill is OK with dating a non-Mormon? Marrying the
> non-Mormon and then having kids with her? A few
> years later, she finally converts.
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I don't think it is that odd. . .I'm RC and I've seen quite a few marriages where the Non RC must agree to take instruction (whether they are baptized or accpeted later is another matter) and to raise any children in the RC faith. Maybe it's something like that???? Zoar. . .can you guide us here???
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Jul 2, 2008 4:34 PM
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Zoar, Thank you for explaining that. Religious communities can be very tight communities. I know that first hand.
Real life example: I was caught wearing pants (not a skirt) by someone that I barely even knew. Within a matter of days, the minister was calling. (I told you I come from a religious background!)
Good tie-in of info!
Barb really outs herself to everyone. The first episode title is: Block Party.
We can see where this is heading.
Didn't we hear that this season was going to be more about the Henrickson's and the LDS?
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Jul 2, 2008 10:03 AM
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If confronted, here are a couple ways it could play out.
Barb could make Pam out to be a nosy neighbor who came up with it on her own.
"You know all this talk about the FLDS compound in Texas and Pam just jumps her her own conclusion." says Barb
Barb's old Bishop can't be completely in the dark. Barb marries a man from Juniper Creek. Stops going to the ward. Lives with other people all in the same house. (Before they moved.) Barbs family won't talk to her. With all these things he has already come to his conclusion and coming from another Bishop would just cement it, but would Barb care? If she is excommunicated that could go two different ways. Would she care or not? She has chosen her family over everything else before. If she really believes she is living the principle then excommunication won't bother her. If she is breaking man's law but following God's Law... anyway we could see how her doubts play into this.
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Jul 2, 2008 8:50 AM
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Margene's religious difference from the rest of the family isn't just backstory. It's part of the ongoing story--her shock when Nicki threw out the rosary, her praying to St. Anthony, her telling Ana how to "fake pray" for Bill.
It's so unlikely and so pronounced a part of the story, that IMO it must be based on a real life situation. Truth is more impossible than fiction.
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Jul 2, 2008 7:17 AM
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Zoar,
Thanks so much for explaining the LDS ramifications to Barb outing the family to Pam. I wouldn't be surprised if Pam spills the beans....especially, since the first episode in the next season is titled "Block Party" and spoilers indicate a reaction to Barb's "confession".
I also think Bishop Devry (from Barb's old ward) will likely pay some guest appearances next season. He was obviously suspicious when Margene walked in on the conversation and Ben may have told him more than the writers showed us.
At any rate.....it should be a pretty action packed season!
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> Or maybe the writers were more interested in
> getting the variety into the family relationships,
> and didn't think through the back story
> completely.
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Another storyline that the writers really did not think through is about Barb confessing to Pam that she was a polygamist. Most of you probably don?t see this, but it is as plain as day to me. Going back to when Barb later told Bill she had told Pam about their life, she ends the conversation by saying to the effect ?Our secret is out at least in this neighborhood?
Her neighborhood, if it is like any other neighborhood in the Salt Lake City area, will have several LDS families living there. I suspect Pam will not be able to keep it to herself, hence Barbs remark about the entire block knowing about it. The Henricksons would reside in the same ward boundaries as the rest of her LDS neighbors. Sooner or later, the gossip will make it back to the ward and eventually the Bishop. This is what would happen. The Bishop would call both Pam and her husband into his office and ask them to confirm the rumor that has been circulating around that there are polygamists in the ?X? neighborhood. Once he had it confirmed, he would ask who the family was.
Having that information, the bishop would do a computer search for their membership records and contact their former Bishop, the one Ben went to see. The conversation might go something like this. ?Bishop (Y) this is Bishop (Z) over in (X) Stake, one of your former members may be a polygamist, do you know anything about that? After this conversation, another call will be forthcoming and this time it will be for Bill asking him if he and Barb can meet with the Bishop in his office at such and such a day and time so that they can clear some things up. The nature of the meeting will not be divulged until it actually takes place.
The LDS Church excommunicates any member even inactive ones, found to be practicing polygamy. There is no leniency in this matter. In reality, this is what happens. Of course, since Big Love is fictional, it will probably turn out much different. Pam might actually keep her mouth shut.
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Jul 1, 2008 7:34 PM
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Or maybe the writers were more interested in getting the variety into the family relationships, and didn't think through the back story completely.
My vote is on this explanation.
My personal observation is, as a religious person myself, that the writers forgot that to a religious person, (Like Bill) Margene's religion would most likely matter. Bill is supposedly lives his life following his God and his faith's teachings. How could Margene's religion not have mattered to him?
(sorry for the bad grammar).
However, it makes a really good story!
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Jun 26, 2008 12:53 AM
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> Would the Holy Spirit direct Bill to a non-Mormon?
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Marigoldmama,
It could be possible. I would not rule it out. Perhaps the Spirit was telling Bill in much the same way that Peter was told.
?God hath shewed me that I should not call any man common or unclean.? This was concerning Cornelius, who was a gentile and converted to Christianity.
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Jun 25, 2008 10:22 PM
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> Sorry about that. I thought the conversation was
> about why Bill decided to bring Margene into the
> family.
And it was, of course, AS - you're right. I was kind of distracted yesterday, and responded in a different direction than the rest of the conversation.
MGM had asked why Bill, as a religious man, would have married a Gentile, and I was suggesting that he wasn't so religious any more, due to a crisis of faith after Barb's illness.
Hey, it made sense to me at the time! LOL
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Jun 25, 2008 9:15 PM
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> AS, yes, I was talking about Nicki, in terms of Bill
> suddenly turning to polygamy. Bringing Margene in
> happened after he changed direction.
Sorry about that. I thought the conversation was about why Bill decided to bring Margene into the family.
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