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Long awaited, it finally was shown!!!...the endowment session. All I can say, I think it was respectfully shown.
It showed a sacred part of our LDS live's. I know most members got very upset, me included. After it is all said and done my opinion would be to say it was more positive than negative if that is possible considering the sacredness of our temple. I will admit, I am sure the ratings went through the roof on this episode.
Just a one comment, in the Celestial Room, you don't just get 15 min! I found that part humorous, you can stay there all day.
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Synagogues often ask High Holiday Service Attendees to have tickets, which can be "purchased", but the purchase is really a donation that is waived if a person cannot pay. No Jew is required to pay to be a Jew. The tickets are a way to ensure security because of attacks on synagogues in the Holy Land during high holidays. No Jew is turned away from a Synagogue.
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I have never heard of a church that requires you to swipe your ATM card to get in!
The closest I can imagine is if a special performance is being held requiring tickets - e.g. Christmas music.
I think I have heard of Jewish synagogues requiring payment for specific holiday services, but I'm not at all sure of that.
I had some issues with the temple scene. If Barb borrowed her mother or sister's temple recommend in order to get it, how did THEY both get in before her? And if she was told to leave after 15 minutes, they were there before her - why were they still there?
In general, I think, they handled it with taste and respect. All the indignation over it was for nothing, IMO.
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Mar 16, 2009 9:54 AM
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> I've never known a Catholic or Protestant Church
> where you had to pay to attend services. You can
> attend at most churches as often as you like - you
> don't have to give any money but are encouraged to do
> so.
I haven't either. I've attended most mainstream Protestant churches, only a few Catholic churches, and never once did I have to pay a fee before I entered or did they kick me out if I didn't put any money in the plate.
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Mar 16, 2009 9:45 AM
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> Jesus Said: "I have done nothing in secret" Secret
> rituals are not WWJD, but I Guess they are CTR.
Hell's bells. Joseph Smith said "We further caution our brethren, against the impropriety of the organization of bands or companies, by covenants, oaths, penalties, or secrecies, ... pure friendship always becomes weakened the very moment you undertake to make it stronger by penal oaths and secrecy" in Times and Seasons, Volume 1. Check it out on page 133.
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Mar 16, 2009 9:36 AM
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i thought that whole scene was very peaceful and serene, which is obviously how it was intended to be.
at the end when Barb was being questioned, i thought it was so sad when she was officially "severed of all ties to her family and the church". I can't imagine that happening to me. Although i am not Mormon, to go all your life believing in something and to then be told that bascically you aren't going to acheive what you always thought you would, it would be just devastating...to never be with your family again after death. (in eternity, as they believe)
**Also, just a side note, is Jeanne Tripplehorn pregnant?? it really looked like it. Me and my mom noticed it for sure last night, but we also noted that like halfway through the season, she started to get a bit more plump. probably timed her pregnancy so she would have it during the hiatus, since Barb can't have children. 
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Mar 16, 2009 7:46 AM
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> I think it says a lot that you aren't ALLOWED in the
> temple unless you tithe (hmm, imagine that).
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> Are they like the Baptists and demand 10%?
Yes, "tithe" actually means 10%.
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I think it says a lot that you aren't ALLOWED in the temple unless you tithe (hmm, imagine that).
Are they like the Baptists and demand 10%?
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Mar 16, 2009 7:42 AM
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> I've never known a Catholic or Protestant Church
> where you had to pay to attend services. You can
> attend at most churches as often as you like - you
> don't have to give any money but are encouraged to do
> so.
I also agree. I have never been in any Catholic or Protestant church where I was required to pay to attend or was only allowed access to certain parts of my church if I proved I had paid my tithe. The collection plate has been passed...sure. And sometimes there has been pressure to contribute put on the congregation as a whole to meet a certain goal. But no body has ever "kept track" of how much I contributed...it has always been anonymous and left between me and God.
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Mar 16, 2009 7:30 AM
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I've never known a Catholic or Protestant Church where you had to pay to attend services. You can attend at most churches as often as you like - you don't have to give any money but are encouraged to do so.
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you're right it shouldn't happen at all. Catholic priests shouldn't rape boys, and muslims shouldn't crash planes into towers. What your talking about doesn't have to do with the mormon religion, but evil radicalism that represents usually very few cases in each religion. As I shouldn't stereotype all muslims for the actions of a few terrorists, nor should mormons be stereotyped for the actions of a few bishops or polygymist sects off their rocker.
Extortion was not used on me. I'm 25, member of the United States Air Force, am a salesman and travel all over the counrty. I have one wife (and only will ever have), one child, and enjoy skiing and war movies.
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No, they don't. My friend who is a former mormon says they just use extortion to get you there. It's shameful. I get that this doesn't happen every ward, but it shouldn't happen at all.
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I encourage you to do more research on why mormon's require temple recommends to enter. They don't discourage anyone from taking the steps to obtain one.
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Mar 16, 2009 3:41 AM
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Swiping an ATM card to get in??!!
This is complete total nonsense.
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Mar 16, 2009 1:35 AM
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Creole- I ever experienced that regarding protestant churches. Thats very odd.
The only religions that really disallowed visitors for most of the grounds are the LDS (and its counterparts) and The Muslims.
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Mar 16, 2009 1:34 AM
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> > Buelna,
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> > I really don't want to disrespect you. But the
> whole
> > idea of needing a security pass to even get in
> the
> > temple just chaps by backside.
> >
> > Jesus has open and welcoming arms and you don't
> the
> > recommendation of any man to go to Him.
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> > Just my humble opinion.... and that IS what the
> Holy
> > Bible says.
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> It isnt just Catholics or Mormons. In many
> Protestant American churches-you cant attend unless
> you swipe your ATM card at the lobby or become a
> paying member?
> Jewish temples-you better have your season box seat
> tickets because lord knows anyone can not walk up on
> there. Americans always quote Jesus but look at the
> religious leaders in this country. What do they know
> about some 5'1 Arab Jew? No one knows what this man
> really saing being that over 100 years had passed
> before he his narrative -was some how recreated along
> with an appearance make over
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> Edited by creolecuban at 03/15/2009 10:30 PM PDT
Nah... I don't think so. Provide a link to one protestant or catholic church that does that. Beyond that I'll not believe it. I will call them. I've been a Christian all my life, traveled the world and never, ever saw that. It's ridiculous.
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