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Sometimes athletes get inducted into their respective sports halls of fame for reasons outside of their numbers, do you feel these two fighters based on career's alone deserve to be inducted into the International Boxing Hall of Fame? I'd like to hear your opinions as to why or why not.
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Re: Forrest & Gatti without the tragedy were their careers HOF worthy?
Aug 20, 2009 2:00 PM
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Mayorga, even though he's not the most technical fighter has the ability to beat good fighters-especially back in the day. The guy hit like a ton of bricks-Forrest was a better fighter of course-but he got caught up in a shoot out and came up short thats all-it could happen to anyone.
I thought he won the rematch, but the fans and judges were all caught up with all the crazy shit Mayorga was doing. Say what you want but Shane Mosely looked bad fighting Mayorga and I saw him losing-he would land a couple of shots and Lampley and Merchant would start all the cheerleading.
Forrest was a reall good boxer that fought what was out there-I mean he wanted to fight Pavlik it's not his fault the fight didn't happen. Fans always talk about the Mosely fight but both fighters were undefeated-he didn't just have Shane's number-he str8 whooped his ass. That was his biggest fight why-cause Oscar knew better. Forrest should make the HOF imo, but thats all it is and opinion.
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Re: Forrest & Gatti without the tragedy were their careers HOF worthy?
Aug 18, 2009 7:55 PM
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IMO neither had a HOF worthy career. Gatti isn't even worth talking about. But I could see where some people would want to put Forrest in, I disagree. He had his moment in being the first to beat Mosley. But, he turned right around and lost the title to a bum like Mayorga. Aside from the wins over Mosley, he had a mediocre career. IMO Vernon Forrest was a good fighter, who had the style to give one great fighter a hard time. But, I believe greatness is proven in longevity, and Forrest didn't have that. Its the Hall of Fame, not the Hall of Very Good. And that's exactly what Forrest was, very good.
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Re: Forrest & Gatti without the tragedy were their careers HOF worthy?
Aug 18, 2009 5:26 PM
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Of course they do without a doubt. Forrest beat Mosely at a time when he was virtually the only fighter I could see finishing with a unblemished career. I've seen more heart poured out on the canvas in a Gatti fight then in 95% of the championship fights I've ever watched. Corrales' first fight with Castillo was one of the most drama packed, fast paced action fights in the history of boxing. Best fight I've ever seen live! All these guys were champions (held belts) and had fights that will go down in history as one of the best of their time. I'm not saying their losses made them great, but remember all the greats, with the exception of a few, have eventually lost. So people who are summing up their careers by mainly focusing on the losses is a horrible way to judge the three of their careers. If these guys don't make it in then who does???!!!!! Rip Chico, Rip Gatti, Rip Vernon. God bless your families in this time of tragedy.
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Re: Forrest & Gatti without the tragedy were their careers HOF worthy?
Aug 13, 2009 5:56 PM
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> If I had my way, Chico, Vernon and Gattie would make
> the IBHOF. Chico and Vernon's career's were cut
> short and even though Chico lost to Clottey who knows
> what he would've done @ 140.
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> Vernon was a HOF worthy fighter for sure and
> d everyone knows it. I think he should've won the
> rematch against Mayorga but it was close and Mayorga
> was on the hype train @ the time.
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> Gatti was pretty much done, he lost some fights but
> he won alot more and he was an HBO headliner not
> undercard. Gatti did fight and defeat some good
> fighters if you don't know who they are it's because
> your not a die hard boing fan. This is just my
> opinion, but all three are HOF fighters in my book.
They all have arguments for and against but if I had to choose just one,it would be Chico!
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Re: Forrest & Gatti without the tragedy were their careers HOF worthy?
Aug 13, 2009 10:26 AM
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If I had my way, Chico, Vernon and Gattie would make the IBHOF. Chico and Vernon's career's were cut short and even though Chico lost to Clottey who knows what he would've done @ 140.
Vernon was a HOF worthy fighter for sure and everyone knows it. I think he should've won the rematch against Mayorga but it was close and Mayorga was on the hype train @ the time.
Gatti was pretty much done, he lost some fights but he won alot more and he was an HBO headliner not undercard. Gatti did fight and defeat some good fighters if you don't know who they are it's because your not a die hard boing fan. This is just my opinion, but all three are HOF fighters in my book.
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Re: Forrest & Gatti without the tragedy were their careers HOF worthy?
Aug 6, 2009 10:36 PM
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I don't see these two as quite making the
cut for the IBHOF.
If Danny "Li'l red" Lopez doesn't get in then
I don't see Gatti getting in although both
were crowd pleasers, with an appreciative
fan base, and both would pick it up off the
canvas and win out-and-out wars.
Forrest was a very fine fighter who comes
close with the two wins over Mosley but I
would say that his career was cut short before
quite acquiring the kind of legacy that I would
require of an IBHOF fighter.
That's not to say that Forrest won't get in though.
Randy Turpin was inducted based pretty much on
one win over Robinson and a decent showing in
their second fight before being KO'd. (Several losses
after). I hear there were tragic circumstances about
his life but am not aware of the details.....I have to
wonder if that affected his being inducted. If it did
then I'm not for that sort of consideration being
applied to IBHOF inductees.
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Re: Forrest & Gatti without the tragedy were their careers HOF worthy?
Aug 5, 2009 12:01 PM
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Re: Forrest & Gatti without the tragedy were their careers HOF worthy?
Aug 5, 2009 12:01 PM
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Both will probably make HOF becuase it seems like its easier in all sports to now make the HOF. Forrest was the better fighter but Gatti was much more famous. Either way I loved watching them both and they were both always wonderful off camera as well. Vernon was one of FNF best guest commentators.
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Re: Forrest & Gatti without the tragedy were their careers HOF worthy?
Aug 5, 2009 11:13 AM
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No. Gatti and Forrest were both good fighters, but didn't acomplish much or stay on top of there game for long. Gatti was a warrior. He was also a C class fighter. Forrest had a great matchup ability with Mosely (which cause him to win the fight), but lost to Mayorga by K.O soon after that. R.I.P guys.
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Forrest & Gatti without the tragedy were their careers HOF worthy?
Aug 3, 2009 11:29 AM
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Sometimes athletes get inducted into their respective sports halls of fame for reasons outside of their numbers, do you feel these two fighters based on career's alone deserve to be inducted into the International Boxing Hall of Fame? I'd like to hear your opinions as to why or why not.
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