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The late night HBO boxing series premieres with a spectacular doubleheader when HBO Boxing After Dark: Jorge Arce vs. Julio Ler and Kelly Pavlik vs. Jose Luis Zertuche is seen SATURDAY, JAN. 27 at 10:15 PM ET/PT, from The Honda Center in Anaheim, CA, exclusively on HBO.
Discuss this fight here.
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Re: HBO BOXING AFTER DARK: JORGE ARCE VS. JULIO LER
Feb 13, 2007 1:34 PM
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> Ler must be crying of pain... and Arce kind of upset because he couldnt knockout Julio haha
Julio Ler is a pile of crap. Even with all of his running, Arce still caught Julio late and almost put him down.
No way would Pavlik last against Miranda or Taylor. Kelly executes well and has some pop, but he's too slow and that defense would be a serious liability against elite middleweights.
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Re: HBO BOXING AFTER DARK: JORGE ARCE VS. JULIO LER
Jan 30, 2007 4:23 PM
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> Come back when Stevenson fights someone we know.
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> Edited by truthnobs at 01/30/2007 11:42 AM
? are you referring to big daddy?
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Re: HBO BOXING AFTER DARK: JORGE ARCE VS. JULIO LER
Jan 30, 2007 2:08 PM
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Cotto, Maragarito, Williams??????
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Re: HBO BOXING AFTER DARK: JORGE ARCE VS. JULIO LER
Jan 30, 2007 2:02 PM
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Come back when Stevenson fights someone we know.
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Re: HBO BOXING AFTER DARK: JORGE ARCE VS. JULIO LER
Jan 30, 2007 1:53 PM
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> Okay ibigtimefan1 who do you have in mind , cause as
> good as
> Pacquiao and Miranda are they are different than
> Arce. I wannna see someone with Arce's mentality and
> swagger but with the height. Pacquiao is a badass in
> the ring but he seems really humble outside the ring,
> Miranda is not a brawler he boxes with alot of power.
> Arce is almost as cocky as Naseem Ahmed but not to
> the point where he is annoying, ignorant, and an
> assshole like Ahmed. He will always be limited by his
> size though, alot more so than Pacquiao. Pacquiao vs
> Arce will never happen, Pacquiao is small but Arce is
> tiny. Thats like suggesting Mayweather vs Calzeghe,
> Hopkins,Tarver, or Roy Jones.
think of a fighter who is 5'11" and has the heart and intensity of arce.  i believe you will find him atop the ww division fighting for another title in approximately 5 months. 
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Re: HBO BOXING AFTER DARK: JORGE ARCE VS. JULIO LER
Jan 30, 2007 1:33 PM
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Okay ibigtimefan1 who do you have in mind , cause as good as
Pacquiao and Miranda are they are different than Arce. I wannna see someone with Arce's mentality and swagger but with the height. Pacquiao is a badass in the ring but he seems really humble outside the ring, Miranda is not a brawler he boxes with alot of power. Arce is almost as cocky as Naseem Ahmed but not to the point where he is annoying, ignorant, and an assshole like Ahmed. He will always be limited by his size though, alot more so than Pacquiao. Pacquiao vs Arce will never happen, Pacquiao is small but Arce is tiny. Thats like suggesting Mayweather vs Calzeghe, Hopkins,Tarver, or Roy Jones.
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Re: HBO BOXING AFTER DARK: JORGE ARCE VS. JULIO LER
Jan 30, 2007 12:19 PM
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Yeah i got to agree Pac-man, with out a doubt!!!!!!!! But Pac is not 5'10", hmmmmmmmm i have no idea, Miranda never really shows alot cause he's KO'ing people to quick..... hmmmmmmmmmm i have no clue
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Re: HBO BOXING AFTER DARK: JORGE ARCE VS. JULIO LER
Jan 30, 2007 9:28 AM
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Pac-man vs Arce... Official!?!?!?
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Re: HBO BOXING AFTER DARK: JORGE ARCE VS. JULIO LER
Jan 28, 2007 11:03 PM
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> Hey I wonder how Julio Ler's arms felt after getting
> hit that many times, and also I was impressed by
> Arce's endurance and stamina even though he never
> made any technical adjustments and kept moving
> forward doing the same thing over and over again. If
> only there was a fighter who was 5'10 or 6 ft who had
> the heart and intensity that Arce has, imagine that.
i can think of one.
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Re: HBO BOXING AFTER DARK: JORGE ARCE VS. JULIO LER
Jan 28, 2007 10:58 PM
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Ler must be crying of pain... and Arce kind of upset because he couldnt knockout Julio haha
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Re: HBO BOXING AFTER DARK: JORGE ARCE VS. JULIO LER
Jan 28, 2007 10:54 PM
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Hey I wonder how Julio Ler's arms felt after getting hit that many times, and also I was impressed by Arce's endurance and stamina even though he never made any technical adjustments and kept moving forward doing the same thing over and over again. If only there was a fighter who was 5'10 or 6 ft who had the heart and intensity that Arce has, imagine that.
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Re: HBO BOXING AFTER DARK: JORGE ARCE VS. JULIO LER
Jan 28, 2007 6:22 PM
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We'll just have to see. I'm not ready to write anyone off as a GWH just yet.
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Re: HBO BOXING AFTER DARK: JORGE ARCE VS. JULIO LER
Jan 28, 2007 1:35 PM
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HTF would you know? You haven't even seen him
> against
> > elite competition to guage where he would stand
> > against Miranda. Now take in mind I haven't seen
> > tonights fights so Pavlik could have gotten his
> ass
> > kicked for all I know, but pavlik has proven
> ability
> > to consistently kick the bums asses he has fought
> and
> > in doing so showcase his lucrative jab, punching
> > accuracy, decent power, and polished boxing skills.
> I
> > really can't guage his defense but I know he has a
> > long jab that he can use to fend his opponent off.
> I
> > just think he has too much skill for Miranda to
> deal
> > with.
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> > Now take in mind I haven't seen the results of
> > tonight's fight yet so Miranda could very well be
> > another hyped up fighter. I could click on the
> > member's page and see a topic called "Pavlick -
> The
> > Stinkiest Pumped up Turd since Wladamir Klitschko"
> > but you know that's a chance I'm willing to take
> > because that's just how much I was impresssed with
> > Pav last time I saw him.
Ok, Note that you said "but pavlik has proven ability to consistently kick the bums asses he has fought" The word bum says alot... Miranda has fought 2 top fighters and a guy who was know for a great chin, now lets recap.... Eastman- TKO 7th, Arthur- Jaw broke in 2 places and was given a gift by being allowed to fight after he him self said he did not want to continue oh and that ref, Gibbs- got Knocked silly while Miranda was punching off his back foot. Pavlicks' Jab...... HAHA..... Miranda would man-handle this kid. Miranda by 2 or three and thats only cause i would enjoy wacthing Miranda kick his ass.....
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Re: HBO BOXING AFTER DARK: JORGE ARCE VS. JULIO LER
Jan 28, 2007 6:15 AM
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I have seen both boxers fight.vic and arce.I am an arce fan, and I do feel that arce will be too strong for vic. Arce will take Vic's punches, and his workload will be too much for Vic to handle.Arce is a warrior, he will get hit and he will keep coming back at you , no matter what sort of punishment he takes, hes a gladiator, and a true mexican fighter..i think hes more mentally tougher than vic.vic, was knocked out by pecheco, and should have lost that fight.., arce hasnt been defeated since 1999 to a mexican legend.
hope the fight becomes a reality, it would be awesome to watch.. what to you readers think..?
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