|
|
It's a mandatory challenger fight for Klitschko, Saturday July 12th from Germany, starting at 4:30 PM ET/1:30 PM PT, replayed the same day at 10PM ET/PT. Discuss this fight here!
|
Posts:
9,284
Registered:
5/28/08
|
|
(170 of 200)
Re: July 12: WCB: Klitschko vs. Thompson
Jul 13, 2008 10:14 PM
|
> Sorry mates, I didn't proofread the preceeding babble
> in the article I copied. I'm sure some will follow
> with ease, but I took time and effort to glean the
> important details amongst the butchered grammar or
> translation anyway. Maskaev is a fair test of Haye's
> heavyweight chances, even though I'm sure he'd like
> to begin with a higher profile opponent.
I think Maskaev is a good fight to get his heavyweight feet wet. He's fought a lot of good guys and will be a fair test. And seeing what Sam Peter did to him recently will give us a gage to see where Haye his in compared to the top heavyweights.
|
|
|
Posts:
3,071
Registered:
3/20/06
|
|
(169 of 200)
Re: July 12: WCB: Klitschko vs. Thompson
Jul 13, 2008 10:10 PM
|
|
Sorry mates, I didn't proofread the preceeding babble in the article I copied. I'm sure some will follow with ease, but I took time and effort to glean the important details amongst the butchered grammar or translation anyway. Maskaev is a fair test of Haye's heavyweight chances, even though I'm sure he'd like to begin with a higher profile opponent.
|
|
|
Posts:
3,071
Registered:
3/20/06
|
|
(168 of 200)
Re: July 12: WCB: Klitschko vs. Thompson
Jul 13, 2008 10:04 PM
|
David Haye To Take On Oleg Maskaev? Haye Still Wants Fight With Wladimir Klitschko
In the latest boxing news, former cruiserweight vindicator David Haye (21-1, 20 KOs) is rumored to exist strife former WBC heavyweight vindicator Oleg Maskaev (34-6, 26 KOs) ward October 18th at the O2 Arena (Millenium tholus), Greenwich, in London. If this turns abroad to exist genuine, it would exist a tremendously daring move at Haye, considering that Maskaev, 39, a puissant puncher, is silence quite useful despite his advanced age and solitary recently did he lose his WBC heavyweight name in a 6th round obstruction to Nigerian Samuel Peter in March. Haye, 27, had been antecedently saying that he wanted to get a great-named adversary for his leading twist as a heavyweight, and that he wasn?t going to company around and war single of the ?fat slobs? in the portion. As always, if this news turns abroad to exist genuine, Haye would exist doing exactly as he?s done in the spent, making daring statements, afterwards backing it up at going abroad and doing precisely what he said he was going to do.
In choosing Maskaev, Haye would exist looking at a warrior accompanying a dreadful amount of experience, strife (and sometimes losing) a great amount of familiar fighters like Oliver McCall, Hasim Rahman, David Tua, Peter, Sinan Samil Sam, Kirk Johnson, Lance Whitaker and Corey Sanders. He?s beaten most of them, and lost in spectacular form to some, like Johnson, Tua, Sanders, and McCall. His chin has always been his biggest question, letting him downward in great fights in which he had small leads. However, whenever his chin is holding up, he?s real difficult to beat due to his excellent boxing skills and better than average ableness.
In the modern regard, he has ableness in both hands, can seize abroad his adversary accompanying each of them equally, and seems to exist able to hold his ableness spring up to the real last round of various of his fights. Though he looks tired in the later rounds of his bouts, he silence is punching real hard, accompanying knockout power. This is a type of warrior that, if he?s silence standing tardy in the war, he has a useful chance of taking Haye abroad, plenteous like Carl Thompson did following Haye punched himself abroad in the 5th round in their September 2004 twist. Haye has considering erudite how to pace himself plenteous better, notwithstanding he silence appears to exist plagued at stamina problems and a weak chin, judging at his fights against Giacobbe Fragomeni and Jean Marc Mormeck.
Haye is also silence hoping to line up a equal accompanying IBF/WBO heavyweight vindicator Wladimir Klitschko, and plans ward attending Klitschko?s twist ward Saturday obscurity against challenger Tony Thompson in Hamburg, Germany. Apparently, Haye is going to try and confront Wladimir once again, probable to shame him into a twist accompanying him. antecedently, Haye confronted a timorous looking Wladimir at benevolence favor that Wladimir was holding a couple of months back, challenging him to a war. Wladimir, looking more than a small frightened, brushed Haye off, suggesting that he obtain some fights, gain some weight, afterwards come back to him at that time.
However, the interview (available ward You pipe) left single accompanying the printing that Wladimir was afraid of Haye. In other comments that Wladimir has made considering that encounter, he has made it transparent that he won?t exist strife Haye till he proves himself at flogging some acme fighters in the portion.
In that regard, Haye looks as if he?s doing just that at taking ward Maskaev in October. Haye, if prosperous in his war against Maskaev, he silence may have to beat another acme warrior following that in regularity to get Wladimir to exist encouraged and/or pressured to seize the war. Wladimir has another directory twist due nearest, this single for his IBF heavyweight name against his enumerate #1 challenger Alexander Povetkin.
|
|
|
Posts:
9,284
Registered:
5/28/08
|
|
(167 of 200)
Re: July 12: WCB: Klitschko vs. Thompson
Jul 13, 2008 5:23 PM
|
> Seeing some of these forums have got me thinking!
> First, boxing is suppose to be a sweet science as
> s the experts have dubbed it. So why can't the
> heavyweights of all the weight classes in boxing do
> just that. Box damit! The 70's and 80's had boxing
> come and go with Ali, Foreman, Frazier, Norton,
> Holmes, Tyson, etc. But now, I see people defending
> Wlad. Come on! He can't even box in a 22x22 ring!
> I'm a big fan but damn did I have a tough time
> e staying awake till Cortez irked me.
>
> Then, on HBO, there broadcasters need to be changed
> out. Merchant is an idiot in talking about race and
> trying to be poetic with it, then Lampley still can't
> call a fight correctly, then Lennox, he does well as
> long as there is some boxing to be talked about
> because he KNOWS boxing.
>
> Lastly, I don't know if there is a good heavyweight
> left, but if Hayes is the answer, Boxing fans should
> get on these experts to figure it out. HBO is like
> Don King and other promoters or cable affiliates.
> They do it for there pocket books, not our DREAMS!
>
> --
> Edited by uconn35 at 07/13/2008 2:18 PM PDT
Good post.
|
|
|
Posts:
6
Registered:
7/12/08
|
|
(166 of 200)
Re: July 12: WCB: Klitschko vs. Thompson
Jul 13, 2008 5:17 PM
|
Seeing some of these forums have got me thinking! First, boxing is suppose to be a sweet science as the experts have dubbed it. So why can't the heavyweights of all the weight classes in boxing do just that. Box damit! The 70's and 80's had boxing come and go with Ali, Foreman, Frazier, Norton, Holmes, Tyson, etc. But now, I see people defending Wlad. Come on! He can't even box in a 22x22 ring! I'm a big fan but damn did I have a tough time staying awake till Cortez irked me.
Then, on HBO, there broadcasters need to be changed out. Merchant is an idiot in talking about race and trying to be poetic with it, then Lampley still can't call a fight correctly, then Lennox, he does well as long as there is some boxing to be talked about because he KNOWS boxing.
Lastly, I don't know if there is a good heavyweight left, but if Hayes is the answer, Boxing fans should get on these experts to figure it out. HBO is like Don King and other promoters or cable affiliates. They do it for there pocket books, not our DREAMS!
--
Edited by uconn35 at 07/13/2008 2:18 PM PDT
|
|
|
Posts:
9,284
Registered:
5/28/08
|
|
(165 of 200)
Re: July 12: WCB: Klitschko vs. Thompson
Jul 13, 2008 4:40 PM
|
> you people are still criticizing Klitschko?
> what's it gonna take for him to satisfy you? well,
> , all of you can't be satisfied. Wladimir is at
> the top, and when someone's at the top, that's who is
> criticized the most. and why do you people want
> the fights PPV? i've heard Wladimir say before
> that he didn't want his fights to be PPV. he liked
> the fact that everyone could watch his fights.
> anyway, all you haters just need to find another
> er sport to watch.
I think the critism of Klitschko comes form the fact he has looked the way he's looked aganist the caliber of fighters he's faced in his last two fights.
|
|
|
Posts:
24
Registered:
7/7/07
|
|
(164 of 200)
Re: July 12: WCB: Klitschko vs. Thompson
Jul 13, 2008 4:33 PM
|
|
you people are still criticizing Klitschko? what's it gonna take for him to satisfy you? well, all of you can't be satisfied. Wladimir is at the top, and when someone's at the top, that's who is criticized the most. and why do you people want the fights PPV? i've heard Wladimir say before that he didn't want his fights to be PPV. he liked the fact that everyone could watch his fights. anyway, all you haters just need to find another sport to watch.
|
|
|
Posts:
9,284
Registered:
5/28/08
|
|
(163 of 200)
Re: July 12: WCB: Klitschko vs. Thompson
Jul 13, 2008 3:02 PM
|
> It seems that there are British fans here that are a
> little too high on Haye.Personally I think Klitschko
> would make short work of him.Hayes defence is
> leaky,chin weak, and he's not big/strong enough for
> the Ukrainian giant.
>
> Another thing,Thompson and Ibragimov were just bad
> dance parners for Klitschko.With the exception of
> Chris Byrd,Klitschko tends to look less than stellar
> against leftys.
>
> --
> Edited by CaptainMarvell at 07/13/2008 11:55 AM PDT
Well, seeing how I'm from Tennessee and my accent is more Evander Holyfield than Lennox Lewis makes me far from a Brit. You forget, Haye is 6' 3 with long arms. He's long enough to catch up with Klitschko just like Thompson did. Plus, he's faster and a much bigger hitter. Your right, i don't see the fight going past three rounds. I don't know who would win, but it wouldn't last long.
|
|
|
Posts:
47
Registered:
6/12/08
|
|
(162 of 200)
Re: July 12: WCB: Klitschko vs. Thompson
Jul 13, 2008 2:54 PM
|
Yesterday's fight showed me that Klitschko would have a helluva time with the Hayemaker. Like you said a guy with a rubber tire around his waist (how the hell did the WBO have him #1?) managed to touch Klitschko anytime he wanted. Imagine what a guy with Haye's speed and power would do to him.
It seems that there are British fans here that are a little too high on Haye.Personally I think Klitschko would make short work of him.Hayes defence is leaky,chin weak, and he's not big/strong enough for the Ukrainian giant.
Another thing,Thompson and Ibragimov were just bad dance parners for Klitschko.With the exception of Chris Byrd,Klitschko tends to look less than stellar against leftys.
--
Edited by CaptainMarvell at 07/13/2008 11:55 AM PDT
|
|
|
Posts:
9,284
Registered:
5/28/08
|
|
(161 of 200)
Re: July 12: WCB: Klitschko vs. Thompson
Jul 13, 2008 1:22 PM
|
> Yes, bring on Haye. If anything at least the guy is
> in shape and that alone should get everyone excited
> because he's going to show up to fight.
>
> Thompson was sloppy and looked like he didn't even
> want to be there. What kind of heavyweight
> "contender" shows up for a title fight with a gut and
> plods around the ring?
>
> I was really disappointed when Lampley and Co. talked
> about Wlad's possible future opponents and didn't
> even mention Haye once. I can't think of any reason
> anyone would want to see Klitschko fight Povetkin,
> Peter, or Valuev. All three of these guys are fat
> mediocre fighters. These guys remind me more of
> journeymen than they do champions and contenders.
>
> I also had to disagree with Merchant last night too.
> He keeps harping on having an American Heavyweight
> t Champion. Who gives a rip where the man comes
> from. I just want a champion with charisma, a hunger
> for the fight, and who is a strong finisher. Larry
> wants Chris Arreola to be champion. I like Chris but
> no thanks....are there any real athletes out there?
>
> I like Klitschko but I think I like the man more than
> I like the fighter, especially recently. Thompson
> had no business getting a shot at any title. Bring
> on Haye...the sooner the better....even if he loses
> at least we'll have something exciting going on.
>
> Two guys who drop easy and throw monster punches
> almost guarantees a great fight!
Yesterday's fight showed me that Klitschko would have a helluva time with the Hayemaker. Like you said a guy with a rubber tire around his waist (how the hell did the WBO have him #1?) managed to touch Klitschko anytime he wanted. Imagine what a guy with Haye's speed and power would do to him.
|
|
|
Posts:
3,071
Registered:
3/20/06
|
|
(160 of 200)
Re: July 12: WCB: Klitschko vs. Thompson
Jul 13, 2008 1:22 PM
|
|
I really don't give two fucks where the next great heavyweight champion is from. I just wish he'd show soon, and bring some healthy competition with him!
|
|
|
Posts:
24
Registered:
7/6/08
|
|
(159 of 200)
Re: July 12: WCB: Klitschko vs. Thompson
Jul 13, 2008 1:17 PM
|
Yes, bring on Haye. If anything at least the guy is in shape and that alone should get everyone excited because he's going to show up to fight.
Thompson was sloppy and looked like he didn't even want to be there. What kind of heavyweight "contender" shows up for a title fight with a gut and plods around the ring?
I was really disappointed when Lampley and Co. talked about Wlad's possible future opponents and didn't even mention Haye once. I can't think of any reason anyone would want to see Klitschko fight Povetkin, Peter, or Valuev. All three of these guys are fat mediocre fighters. These guys remind me more of journeymen than they do champions and contenders.
I also had to disagree with Merchant last night too. He keeps harping on having an American Heavyweight Champion. Who gives a rip where the man comes from. I just want a champion with charisma, a hunger for the fight, and who is a strong finisher. Larry wants Chris Arreola to be champion. I like Chris but no thanks....are there any real athletes out there?
I like Klitschko but I think I like the man more than I like the fighter, especially recently. Thompson had no business getting a shot at any title. Bring on Haye...the sooner the better....even if he loses at least we'll have something exciting going on.
Two guys who drop easy and throw monster punches almost guarantees a great fight!
|
|
|
Posts:
47
Registered:
6/12/08
|
|
(158 of 200)
Re: July 12: WCB: Klitschko vs. Thompson
Jul 13, 2008 1:17 PM
|
I'd like to react to Larry Merchant's comment during the opening of the Klitschko/Thompson fight,along with the videoclip of Joe Louis knocking out Max Schmeling in the first round of their rematch,Merchant said that Louis "smashed the myth of Aryan supremecy'.
Hey Merchant,when an over the hill Schmeling knocked out Louis in their first fight did that confirm Aryan supremecy?
What does boxing have to do with racial supremecy anyway?If a chimpanzee were to KO a human in a boxing match would that demonstate simian supremecy?
I don't look to boxers so much for racial pride as much rocket scientists like Werner Von Braun who established America's space program.
Advise to Jewish boxing commentators:
STOP PROVOKING RACIAL HATRED
You Jews have enough enemies worldwide and you don't need anymore.
White canvas, white ring ropes and white fighters(usually), topped off with an overhead set of intense spotlights, and you have the formula for a white-out.
--
Edited by CaptainMarvell at 07/13/2008 11:47 PM PDT
--
Edited by CaptainMarvell at 07/13/2008 11:49 PM PDT
|
|
|
Posts:
3,071
Registered:
3/20/06
|
|
(157 of 200)
Re: July 12: WCB: Klitschko vs. Thompson
Jul 13, 2008 12:29 PM
|
> WHY THE FUCK IS IT ALWAYS SO BRIGHT IN THE
> EUROPEAN ARENAS?
White canvas, white ring ropes and white fighters(usually), topped off with an overhead set of intense spotlights, and you have the formula for a white-out.
|
|
|
Posts:
3,071
Registered:
3/20/06
|
|
(156 of 200)
Re: July 12: WCB: Klitschko vs. Thompson
Jul 13, 2008 12:21 PM
|
|
Joe Cortez did manage to fuck up again during Klitschko-Thompson. Both were cut by headbutts in the second round, but he ruled that they were caused by punches. Luckily for him, neither cut worsened to the point that it became an issue. He's a world-class bungler that needs to be put out to pasture. At least he didn't claim he was "Fair But Firm" prior to the fight for once.
|
|
|
|
|
