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he two best welterweights in the world -- Undefeated champ Miguel Cotto clashes with Antonio Margarito July 26th at 9:00 PM ET/6:00 PM PT. It's a fight that everyone's been waiting for... And it's on HBO. Discuss this fight here.
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Re: July 26th: PPV: Cotto vs. Margarito
Aug 1, 2008 3:03 PM
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> i would agree with you if it was not for the fact
> that dan goossen thinks williams is worth more than
> he actually is... sure he "won" vs mararito.. but he
> didnt beat him down or nothing like that, the same
> people here saying that williams whooped margos ass
> cause he threw 1200 punches.. and then turn around
> and say margo lost to clottey, where margo threw 1600
> (a record) punches.. how's that work??
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> i think it should happen, and i think it will happen,
> i believe that tony is just being mayweather right
> now that he can, looking for a low risk, high rewards
> fight like DLH would be.. and then he'd take williams
> or berto or winner of judah clottey..
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> THERE WAS MORE EXCITEMENT JULY 26TH THAN THERE'S BEEN
> IN A CERTAINS SOMEONE'S ENTIRE CAREER! BELIVE THAT!!
I think he needs the de la Hoya fight more than any. I don't know what the Cotto-Margarito PPV numbers were, but I doubt they were record breaking. Margarito is never going to be a star that can sell by himself so he needs a de la Hoya or a Mayweather to get that monumental payday. And on top of that Margarito gets hit so easily that its not going to take an elite P4P fighter to beat him. So I agree with you that he needs to be very careful about the fights he takes before getting that big payday. I would hate to see his career defining win go for not.
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Re: July 26th: PPV: Cotto vs. Margarito
Aug 1, 2008 2:54 PM
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> Oh don't get it twisted, I think Margarito should
> make as much money as he possibly can. De la Hoya is
> the cashcow, and that fight should trump all others
> for him. But, with that being said, he still needs
> to see Williams before he's done. You have to agree
> that for him to be the true welterweight champ, his
> has to beat the man that beat him.
i would agree with you if it was not for the fact that dan goossen thinks williams is worth more than he actually is... sure he "won" vs mararito.. but he didnt beat him down or nothing like that, the same people here saying that williams whooped margos ass cause he threw 1200 punches.. and then turn around and say margo lost to clottey, where margo threw 1600 (a record) punches.. how's that work??
i think it should happen, and i think it will happen, i believe that tony is just being mayweather right now that he can, looking for a low risk, high rewards fight like DLH would be.. and then he'd take williams or berto or winner of judah clottey..
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THERE WAS MORE EXCITEMENT JULY 26TH THAN THERE'S BEEN IN A CERTAINS SOMEONE'S ENTIRE CAREER! BELIVE THAT!!
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Re: July 26th: PPV: Cotto vs. Margarito
Aug 1, 2008 2:38 PM
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Dont discredit my boy Cotto, hes going to be back, i feel bad for his next opponent.
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Re: July 26th: PPV: Cotto vs. Margarito
Aug 1, 2008 2:29 PM
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> come on hitking60.. wasnt it you praising money make
> for making smart business decisions instead of
> fighting good fighters,so he can make money the easy
> way and lots of it.. so why are you surprised that
> now that margarito is on top, he wants to get paid..
> if you remember, he had the option of vacating his
> belt and fighting cotto a while back.. in stead he
> took on a fight that we both know nobody wants.. and
> if he wasnt asleep the first 5 rnds. he would of
> won.. whats wrong with margarito wanting dlh... i bet
> it will be a hell of lot more exciting than DLH VS
> MAYWEATHER.. so dont hate cause he got to the top the
> long, hard way and now wants his money..
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> THERE WAS MORE EXCITEMENT JULY 26TH THAN THERE'S BEEN
> IN A CERTAINS SOMEONE'S ENTIRE CAREER! BELIVE THAT!!
Oh don't get it twisted, I think Margarito should make as much money as he possibly can. De la Hoya is the cashcow, and that fight should trump all others for him. But, with that being said, he still needs to see Williams before he's done. You have to agree that for him to be the true welterweight champ, his has to beat the man that beat him.
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Re: July 26th: PPV: Cotto vs. Margarito
Aug 1, 2008 2:02 PM
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> But Honestly Speaking Not to take anything
> away from Marg. But I don't know if he can beat
> Oscar. Because Oscar's chin is just as good as his.
> Oscar also is better skilled, possibly stronger, and
> d has less endurance.
One doesn't have to hit DeLaHoya in the chin to win.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHQPtG7M1cE
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Re: July 26th: PPV: Cotto vs. Margarito
Aug 1, 2008 1:48 PM
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I must admit I was pretty sad seeing Cotto get walked down by Margarito but you know what, Cotto outlanded him outclassed him and fought his ass off. Margarito was simply was a bigger man and was more conditioned. Cotto should jogged up that mountain a couple of extra times and maybe he woulda coasted to a victory on pure boxing like all boxers do when they know they can't knock someone out. Then again that ring was tiny so doing that woulda been damn near impossible seeing that when Cotto dipped outta the corner it would only take him 2 to 3 steps before he was in another corner. This fight was taylor made for Margarito and it was only a matter of time before somebody that hurt Cotto finally finished him off. Overall it was a hell of a fight Mararito gets his props. But ask yourself this, Would Mayweather or Delahoya ever agreed to fight a brawler like Margarito in such a small ring? HELL NO. Cotto don't give a F about none of that, put a fighter in the ring with him and he'll go to work, no questions asked. I hope people look at Cotto's warrior mentality before they criticize his loss to Margarito. Cause to be honest, a couple of more miles of roadwork in the morning and a larger ring and he wins that fight easily in 12. Margarito's height advantage and reach advantage was perfect for the circumstances given to him. I respect Margarito cause he was a hungry fighter coming in, and he got the job done. But Cotto outlanded him and was more precise the entire night. Margarito had every single physical advantage in that fight and as determined as he was it was hard to see him losing that night. But there's no question that Cotto is way more skilled then him. If Cotto comes back more fierce and more conditioned I got him winning a rematch. And I hope this becomes another classic boxing trilogy for the ages if thats the case.
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Re: July 26th: PPV: Cotto vs. Margarito
Aug 1, 2008 12:25 PM
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de lahoya is entering such a sad state in his career
were he went from take on all comers and beating them
amazing amatuer to semi-decent boxer
i think even against paquio he can lose,
hes not what he once was. agaisn tmayorga he took too many hits as well.
against mayweather he flailed at him like a child.
and against forbes he could barely snap two pounds head back
its a loss of all his skills thats what we are witnessing with Oscar
simple as that.
and him fighting margarito is a pssing of the torch if you will.
the reason why i do think (even though i just bashed oscar) that it would be a great fight is cause Oscar still has speed and a chin the likes i dont think margarito has seen. Oscar can take a punch like a true mexican and they would have a good go
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Re: July 26th: PPV: Cotto vs. Margarito
Aug 1, 2008 11:16 AM
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Cotto/Margarito was the best boxing match in a very long time. Two of boxing's best, giving it their all, and one walking away the clear winner - that is what PPV fights are all about. Mayweather/DLH was a joke - they should both watch this fight and ask themselves if they will ever have the heart of either Cotto or Margarito (I doubt it).
A rematch between Cotto & Margarito is a natural, though the best Cotto can hope for is a win by decision, but he is too much of a true warrior to pull a DLH style win.
BTW, both Cotto and Margarito will KO DLH in less than 8 rounds. Cotto punches too hard and has great boxing skills, and Margarito will do the same to DLH as he did to Cotto. Margarito is very similar to Pavlik with his pressure style and heavy hands. No wonder DLH didn't want to fight him.
DLH - be smart and retire before Margarito ko's you next.
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Re: July 26th: PPV: Cotto vs. Margarito
Aug 1, 2008 9:40 AM
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winky wrights career is one of imo the saddes career choices one can make.
i hate when ppl say he aint exciting cause all the fights i seen him in were damn exciting. i dotn know why he had such a hard time getting popular in the U.S.
But alot of the reasonw hy winky aint popular is his own damn fault. he sohuld have taken a taylor rematch but instead opted to fight ike quartey. and then there was his move to fight hopkins why i still dont know.
and now he held out to fight delahoya for 5 months or so...
he doesnt have a realistic grip on his career because unfortuantely for him he is too damn good for his own good.
Winky wright knows that he is a helluva of a boxer, but he translates his skills as the reason for why he sohuld be getting paid more... thats not how it works.
so i dont expect to see winky anytime soon in the ring, and he is only getting older.
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Re: July 26th: PPV: Cotto vs. Margarito
Aug 1, 2008 8:25 AM
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> whens winky suppose to fight again...nobody ever
> talks about him in these blogs i liked to kno when he
> is gettin in the ring and with who?
hmmm, i wonder why??
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Re: July 26th: PPV: Cotto vs. Margarito
Aug 1, 2008 4:31 AM
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Tony must fight and beat Paul to be considered the best Welterweight. If Tony does not fight Paul or give Cotto and immediate rematch then it's probaly Bob Arum. I'm not a fan of Antonio but I would think his top priority is Paul Williams not Oscar De La Hoya. I know Bob would not let him fight that easy, old, and soft guy that Mayweather ran to for a easy title. But Honestly Speaking Not to take anything away from Marg. But I don't know if he can beat Oscar. Because Oscar's chin is just as good as his. Oscar also is better skilled, possibly stronger, and has less endurance. I think the fight will resemble the Williams fight. I'll Call it a toss up.
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Re: July 26th: PPV: Cotto vs. Margarito
Jul 31, 2008 11:38 PM
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jarule have you heard pf that young prospect victor ortiz i think he is a junior welterwight dude is bad he is fro oxnard ca....he is 20 1 with 15kos his last fight was 6 months or so ago he beat carlos maussa by first round ko...i think he could and will make some noise....in that division and he has the frame to move up to 147 and do some damage im excited about this guy...he is a boxer puncher with prettyg gritty defense.....
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Re: July 26th: PPV: Cotto vs. Margarito
Jul 31, 2008 11:30 PM
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> The only good thing that i got from that was when
> Merchant said all true champions take on all comers
> it reminded me of Cotto...he fought whoever they put
> infront of him!
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> cbeee 1 exactly my brother you see things from all
> angles just as i do...and to make another point just
> cause i am mexican doesnt mean i do not like any
> fighters of another race props....i like cotto mosley
> berto pavlik calzaghe heck even klitshko.....now you
> got your fans who are all about im this certain race
> therefore my fighter is the best or he lost because
> this or he did this because of that excuses
> galore.......and you usually see those certain people
> just point out fighters of there race not any other
> race...or they just fail to give props where props
> are due....people like you myself jarule im figuring
> hes a brother i could be wrong.....but people like
> this is what keep these blogs on a sensible
> line.......
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Re: July 26th: PPV: Cotto vs. Margarito
Jul 31, 2008 11:29 PM
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whens winky suppose to fight again...nobody ever talks about him in these blogs i liked to kno when he is gettin in the ring and with who?
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