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I think one of the most screwed up parts of boxing has to be the sanctioning bodies and how they seem to delegitimize the sport. Everything from unusual/undeserved rankings given to fighters, to the exorbitant fees that the fighters have to pay to get their fights sanctioned and the way these bodies tend to only do what favors them makes it very easy to see why we see champions drop their titles more frequently as of late. What do you guys think needs to be done to correct this issue?
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Re: Sanctioning bodies and fees associated with them.
Aug 3, 2009 8:34 PM
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They need to get rid of all of these phony belts and while they're at it get rid of a few divisions. There should be one champ per division and the divisions should be cut in half. This way we can ensure that the quality of championship fights are strictly the highest quality that it can be. Lets bring it back to the basics and stop confusing the masses.
Boxing needs a radical change like this in order to revive its image and restore its former glory.
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Re: Sanctioning bodies and fees associated with them.
Aug 3, 2009 2:00 PM
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>If there was a single organization that had 90% of the best fighters under them like the UFC does in MMA then this would not be an issue.
This is one of the reasons why the UFC has done so well financially, and keep growing........... all the champions ARE the best in their respective weight class.
A recent example is how Dana White cleared up the HWT division with a little tourney of Lesnar/Couture; Mir/Noguiera, and both winners met to clear up their HWT division.
Dana White is a really smart buisness man; he saw what was going wrong with boxing, and made sure it wouldn't happen in the UFC........... Of course, the fighters are short-changed, compared to boxers.
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Re: Sanctioning bodies and fees associated with them.
Aug 3, 2009 1:47 PM
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I agree they really do need to cut back on the number of belts out there. I've noticed that the fighters who actually succeed in the sport usually go their whole career without collecting any of those extra trinket belts. Greed most likely played a big part in why belts were being continuously churned out like a candy factory.
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Edited by Emphasis at 08/03/2009 4:19 PM PDT
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Re: Sanctioning bodies and fees associated with them.
Aug 3, 2009 12:12 PM
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They're fighting for vacant titles because nobody wants to pay the sanctioning fees of being a champ when there are 3 or more other guys in your division with the same claims. Does the Ring magazine charge people for being their lineal champ cause thats the only championship that really matters as far as I'm concerned and correct me if i'm wrong but the fighters don't even pay to have or to keep that title.
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Re: Sanctioning bodies and fees associated with them.
Aug 3, 2009 11:39 AM
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This is exactly my point of why this needs to be addressed, everyone complains about this, this has been discussed numerous times for so many reasons and the stupid part about it is that having so many title holders makes many of the belts meaningless. Before it meant something to unify titles in one division now it means hey if you want to be the champ which should be something of a privilege, you're burdened by all the extras associated with it. Who the heck would want to be a champion if not only are there another 3 or so, most of which are ranked really low by the other bodies and not worthy of even a title shot never mind holding one. A victory to me is good enough, keep the belt if you have to pay for holding one. They have so many tournaments now for vacant titles because the opposition some of these fighters have to face as mandatory challengers are only good for the sanctioning bodies and not worth the price of admission.
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Re: Sanctioning bodies and fees associated with them.
Aug 3, 2009 11:33 AM
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If there was a single organization that had 90% of the best fighters under them like the UFC does in MMA then this would not be an issue. MMA will probably have the same problem one day but we should learn from this cause there are too many fake champs and beltholders that water down our sport and this is getting to be ridiculous already.
Why the hell should I pay 400,000 to keep a belt that don't mean sh*t? Clottey gave his belt up and I don't blame him. 400,00 bucks to keep a belt that doesn't make you a clear cut champ doesn't make any sense at all. Cotto or any other boxing champ for that matter could use that money to pay for his childrens college fund in the future and what not.
Who the hell are these sanctioning bodies anyway? Can I invent my own belt and charge people a couple hundred thousand to keep it? I know I might just water down the sport but f*ck it, we're in a recession!!!
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Aug 3, 2009 11:18 AM
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I know this has been discussed a lot, but I just find it as a problem that seems to be coming up with the Cotto vs Pacquiao fight and how they're trying to manipulate Cotto to not only put up his belt but also how they're ranking Pacquiao, plus they want a $150k fee. It's just messed up to me! I have to agree with you kid, I don't think these abc titles mean as much anymore.
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Re: Sanctioning bodies and fees associated with them.
Aug 1, 2009 5:22 PM
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screw the alphies! the only belt that matters is The Ring magazine championship. if you don't have that belt then you're not a champion. can you imagine the phillies paying a sactioning fee to be recognized as the world champions of baseball?
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Re: Sanctioning bodies and fees associated with them.
Aug 1, 2009 12:53 PM
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Steve,
This has been talked about many times........... but if boxing is to get better and become the popular sport it was; this is one of the things that NEED to change......... make a belt worth something again, and stop with the crooked bs from the sanctioning bodies.
Of course, for that to happen; a lot of sanctioning bodies would be out of buisness; and why would a buisness leave the sport when they make easy money by doing nothing?
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Sanctioning bodies and fees associated with them.
Aug 1, 2009 9:41 AM
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I think one of the most screwed up parts of boxing has to be the sanctioning bodies and how they seem to delegitimize the sport. Everything from unusual/undeserved rankings given to fighters, to the exorbitant fees that the fighters have to pay to get their fights sanctioned and the way these bodies tend to only do what favors them makes it very easy to see why we see champions drop their titles more frequently as of late. What do you guys think needs to be done to correct this issue?
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