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I know the result went to Clottey but it had to go to the scorecards when it seemed that a punch actually caused the cut. What do the members think about implementing it in these types of circumstances?
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Re: Do you think Instant replay would have helped in Judah vs Clottey?
Sep 25, 2008 7:46 PM
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Re: Do you think Instant replay would have helped in Judah vs Clottey?
Aug 8, 2008 11:26 AM
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> Perhaps but Cotto cause that himself given the
> situation. I think If the replay in the Marquez vs
> Vasquez 3 fight had shown that the last hit by
> Marquez was on the belt line and the point deduction
> was reversed then perhaps he would have won the
> fight.
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> Do you smell what Barack is cookin?
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> I agree that the punch Marquez was penalized for was
> indeed on the belt line. Although I don't think the
> point deduction would have made Marquez the winner
> because he lost by one point, most likely it would
> have made the fight a draw.
Replay would not have helped. There was no conclusive evidence. Ref might have overturned the deduction, but would have been derelict to do so.
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Re: Do you think Instant replay would have helped in Judah vs Clottey?
Aug 7, 2008 10:52 PM
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> > Man Zab Judah is just dumb. You should never
> ask
> > Judah a hard question like how many fingers am
> I
> > holding up. Sheeeit! You might as well ask him
> > something about calculus. I'm surprised he
> didn't say
> > something like, well "what is three" like on
> jeopardy
> > when they forgot to form the answer in the form
> of a
> > question.
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> > Who's Margarito? - FMJ
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> LMFAO....that is good stuff! 
thanks
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Re: Do you think Instant replay would have helped in Judah vs Clottey?
Aug 5, 2008 6:49 PM
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> Man Zab Judah is just dumb. You should never ask
> Judah a hard question like how many fingers am I
> holding up. Sheeeit! You might as well ask him
> something about calculus. I'm surprised he didn't say
> something like, well "what is three" like on jeopardy
> when they forgot to form the answer in the form of a
> question.
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> Who's Margarito? - FMJ
LMFAO....that is good stuff!
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Re: Do you think Instant replay would have helped in Judah vs Clottey?
Aug 5, 2008 6:32 PM
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> The result would have been the same in that Judah
> lost, but if instant replay had been used it would
> have turned into a TKO loss.
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> I love the way that after the fact Judah claims that
> he never said that he could not see when it was on
> tape clear as day.
Man Zab Judah is just dumb. You should never ask Judah a hard question like how many fingers am I holding up. Sheeeit! You might as well ask him something about calculus. I'm surprised he didn't say something like, well "what is three" like on jeopardy when they forgot to form the answer in the form of a question.
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Re: Do you think Instant replay would have helped in Judah vs Clottey?
Aug 5, 2008 6:28 PM
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> Would instant replay have disqualified or caused
> Antonio Margarito to be penalized points for the foul
> he committed when he hit Miguel Cotto while he had
> taken a knee?
Yeah possibly but if Margarito knew there wasn't any instant replay. once the rule is established fighters will know better than to hit a fighter once he is down even if it is a little love tap. hell there could even be a rule that if it looks like the fighter tried to avert the punch once he saw the fighter was down. This would have actually helped Humberto Soto I mean how many times was that replay shown. There should be instant replay IMO. hell yeah! I mean I don't know when it wouldn't have helped with these incompetent refs not doing their jobs.
Maybe each corner man could get one challenge therefore use it wisely.
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Re: Do you think Instant replay would have helped in Judah vs Clottey?
Aug 5, 2008 6:27 PM
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The result would have been the same in that Judah lost, but if instant replay had been used it would have turned into a TKO loss.
I love the way that after the fact Judah claims that he never said that he could not see when it was on tape clear as day.
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Re: Do you think Instant replay would have helped in Judah vs Clottey?
Aug 5, 2008 4:21 PM
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I think instant replays should be used for sure. There have been a few times I have seen something called that was questionable. I don't think it will happen though because the powers that be couldnt fix fights as easily then.
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Re: Do you think Instant replay would have helped in Judah vs Clottey?
Aug 5, 2008 1:10 PM
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Yeah Instant replay would have helped Clottey.
But not Judah.
The world would see how much of a bitch hoe he is more then once!
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Re: Do you think Instant replay would have helped in Judah vs Clottey?
Aug 5, 2008 12:14 PM
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I think it also would have helped if Joshua Clottey didn't have such a big squarezz head.
Clottey and Quintana should have at least one point deducted before they even throw a punch for stepping into a ring with those huge squarezz noggins....LOL
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Re: Do you think Instant replay would have helped in Judah vs Clottey?
Aug 5, 2008 11:51 AM
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I think that obviously it would have helped Clottey, Judah was going to lose that fight anyway.
More importantly it would take power away from the referee and the judges which would be a GREAT thing. We all know how corrupt judges and refs can be in boxing.
The problem would be how to keep instant replay out of the hands of the governing bodies and the whole infested, corrupt, compost-heap boxing scene. Max is cool and seems to be above that scene, but Lampley seems truly incapable of being impartial. He just doesn't have it in him
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Re: Do you think Instant replay would have helped in Judah vs Clottey?
Aug 5, 2008 9:13 AM
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In my opinion, it would be used like they do in football. The referee calls time if there is something questionable, that he's just really unsure about, watches a video and makes his decision from there. It can't be used for every little thing but important things like low blows that seemed to come out of nowhere, if an accidental headbutt caused a cut or not, or any other strange occurence. This could level the playing field when the referee is incompetent. The other thing that would happen is the fighters get a break during the instant replay in case something wasn't caught by the referee it could allow them to recover a bit.
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Re: Do you think Instant replay would have helped in Judah vs Clottey?
Aug 5, 2008 9:03 AM
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Every other sport uses replay I don't see why boxing doesn't doesn't. Replay should be used for situations like the phantom headbutt for Clottey/Judah. Or disputed knockdowns.
Penalties should be left to the discresion of ref.
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Re: Do you think Instant replay would have helped in Judah vs Clottey?
Aug 5, 2008 3:19 AM
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> Perhaps but Cotto cause that himself given the
> situation. I think If the replay in the Marquez vs
> Vasquez 3 fight had shown that the last hit by
> Marquez was on the belt line and the point deduction
> was reversed then perhaps he would have won the
> fight.
>
> --
> Do you smell what Barack is cookin?
>
> I agree that the punch Marquez was penalized for was
> indeed on the belt line. Although I don't think the
> point deduction would have made Marquez the winner
> because he lost by one point, most likely it would
> have made the fight a draw.
True. Although I picked Vasquez to win I thought he was loosing and would have lost if not for the point deduction and if Marquez would have decided to stay away the last round. The Knockdown ruling is really what did it. I thought it was a proper ruling but even If the ref didn't call it I think Vasquez would have knocked him down in the remaining 12 seconds or so anyway.
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Re: Do you think Instant replay would have helped in Judah vs Clottey?
Aug 5, 2008 3:12 AM
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> Would instant replay have disqualified or caused
> Antonio Margarito to be penalized points for the foul
> he committed when he hit Miguel Cotto while he had
> taken a knee?
If anything it would have been a point deduction for the Tijuana Tornado, the foul was not intentional, therefore there is no reason for a disqualification. IMO, the foul was in the heat of the moment, but if a point deduction did occur Cotto still would have been knocked out.
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