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New York's landmark sports and entertainment arena will play host to a heavyweight championship matchup when WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP BOXING: WLADIMIR KLITSCHKO VS. CALVIN BROCK is seen live from Madison Square Garden in New York on SATURDAY, NOV.11 (10:00 PM ET/7:00 PM PT).
Discuss this fight here.
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Re: WCB: WLADIMIR KLITSCHKO VS. CALVIN BROCK
Nov 18, 2006 1:22 AM
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I am proud of Wladimir; however, I thing that he has plenty to learn, for instance, how to finish opposite site on a third round 
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Re: WCB: WLADIMIR KLITSCHKO VS. CALVIN BROCK
Nov 15, 2006 1:04 PM
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>i have only just now had time to voice this... i was
> absolutely appaulled that... during the national anthem >in an american boxing arena two hbo commentaters had the
> nerve to continue
>speaking during the american national anthem. this after
> they go on about how the russian brothers are dead set
> on becoming americanized.
> *snip*
> it is repulsive for these two commentaters to
> rs to show such disrespect to our country
I finally found this post, as I've been looking for some kind of blog or forum comment about this since the day of the fight. I am not a vet, I am not a conservative, let alone a republican, but what I do have is a deep deep love for this country it's freedoms and how they are represented by the National Anthem.
When I saw this on Saturday night I started typing a letter to HBO and sent it in before the fight was even over. When I looked for this again last night during the re-airing of the fight, when I was prepared for it, it was even more disgusting. For whatever reason when it was live it took me a second to realize the Star Spangled Banner was playing in the background. Upon watching it again I see you can hear, although muffled, the stadium announcer ask everyone to stand for the playing of the National Anthem. Larry Merchant just kept on talking; and its not like what he was talking about was so terribly important either.
I'd like to see at the very least some kind of apology or recognition on the HBO website and prior to their next Live match. The fact that it was Veterans day, that the Russians and American respect were such a topic in the fight is just fuel on the fire. Under ANY circumstances this was appalling.
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Re: WCB: WLADIMIR KLITSCHKO VS. CALVIN BROCK
Nov 15, 2006 2:00 AM
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> > to timmy4toes:
> >
> > First, Klitschko has never fought Corey "T-Rex"
> > Sanders, a recent participant of Mike Tyson World
> > Tour exhibition bout. Wladimir fought Corrie "The
> > Sniper" Sanders, a hard-hitting south paw from
> South
> > Africa.
> > Second, you say that Klitschko, who is 6'6'', has
> > always had problems fighting bigger opponents:
> Lamon
> > Brewster - 6'0'', Corrie Sanders - 6'4'', and
> > Ross Purity - 6'3''. It is bogus statements of
> this
> > nature that provoke people make derogatory
> comments
> > about your intelligence, pal.
> >
> > --
> > Edited by shaitanboxing at 11/14/2006 7:59 PM
> >
> > --
> > Edited by shaitanboxing at 11/14/2006 8:06 PM
> >
> > --
> > Edited by shaitanboxing at 11/14/2006 8:57 PM
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> do you need anymore time to edit you statement?
>
> 6'4 isn't that big anyways or brewster isnt that
> strong hard hitting anyways yes you are right which
> makes me wonder what size are you...cough(douche
> bag)... cough(napoleon syndrome)
>
>
> p.s. i do not have a problem being critcized about my
> statement(this is a forum after all). only people who
> feel like making dumb remarks about one another will
> get their point across better. which in turn makes me
> become a 14yr old kid again.
> peace im out
>
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> "your my boy blu"
Re-read your stupid statement:
"wlad does not fair well against opponents who are
bigggger and strongggerrrrrrr than him again(ross
purity brewster corrie t-rex sanders)."
You are not just saying that Corrie Sanders is big, or that Lamon Brewster is strong. You are saying that 6’4” Corrie Sanders and 6’0’’ Lamon Brewster, outweighed on the day of the fight with Klitschko by 17.5 and 17 lb respectively, are actually bigger than 6’6, 243 lb Wladimir. Do you understand my point now?
I edited my response to your idiotic comment several times for I tried to make it as polite as possible. You have once again proved that you didn't deserve it.
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Re: WCB: WLADIMIR KLITSCHKO VS. CALVIN BROCK
Nov 15, 2006 1:18 AM
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you have to admit valuev makes wlad look very short. it would be a interesting fight of two really big men
2007 is ike ibeabuchi next parole hearing?
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Re: WCB: WLADIMIR KLITSCHKO VS. CALVIN BROCK
Nov 15, 2006 1:15 AM
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> to timmy4toes:
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> First, Klitschko has never fought Corey "T-Rex"
> Sanders, a recent participant of Mike Tyson World
> Tour exhibition bout. Wladimir fought Corrie "The
> Sniper" Sanders, a hard-hitting south paw from South
> Africa.
> Second, you say that Klitschko, who is 6'6'', has
> always had problems fighting bigger opponents: Lamon
> Brewster - 6'0'', Corrie Sanders - 6'4'', and
> Ross Purity - 6'3''. It is bogus statements of this
> nature that provoke people make derogatory comments
> about your intelligence, pal.
>
> --
> Edited by shaitanboxing at 11/14/2006 7:59 PM
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> --
> Edited by shaitanboxing at 11/14/2006 8:06 PM
>
> --
> Edited by shaitanboxing at 11/14/2006 8:57 PM
do you need anymore time to edit you statement?
6'4 isn't that big anyways or brewster isnt that strong hard hitting anyways yes you are right which makes me wonder what size are you...cough(douche bag)... cough(napoleon syndrome)
p.s. i do not have a problem being critcized about my statement(this is a forum after all). only people who feel like making dumb remarks about one another will get their point across better. which in turn makes me become a 14yr old kid again.
peace im out
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Re: WCB: WLADIMIR KLITSCHKO VS. CALVIN BROCK
Nov 15, 2006 12:12 AM
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timmy i just dont understand how you can call wlad a bum, in a division filled with unattractive fighters wlad actually stands as a legitimate prospect to unify the bealts. isnt that what we all want one superb champion instead of three just occupying titles for short periods of time. there is only one person that i can honestly see doing that and that is wlad. who eslse is there toney is talented but his size and power will limit his chances, briggs stamina simply beefs, valuev is completly uncoordinated. and anyone else i just dont see winning then holding a title too long.
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Re: WCB: WLADIMIR KLITSCHKO VS. CALVIN BROCK
Nov 14, 2006 10:58 PM
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> > once again im going to have to agree with dam, in
> > that timmy four toes is dumb as a stump. >
> you just like jumping on a bandwagon. smart guy if
> you would have read my original post. (slow voice)
> wlad does not fair well against opponents who are
> bigggger and strongggerrrrrrr than him again(ross
> purity brewster corrie t-rex sanders).
to timmy4toes:
First, Klitschko has never fought Corey "T-Rex" Sanders, a recent participant of Mike Tyson World Tour exhibition bout. Wladimir fought Corrie "The Sniper" Sanders, a hard-hitting south paw from South Africa.
Second, you say that Klitschko, who is 6'6'', has always had problems fighting bigger opponents: Lamon Brewster - 6'0'', Corrie Sanders - 6'4'', and
Ross Purity - 6'3''. It is bogus statements of this nature that provoke people make derogatory comments about your intelligence, pal.
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Edited by shaitanboxing at 11/14/2006 7:59 PM
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Edited by shaitanboxing at 11/14/2006 8:06 PM
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Edited by shaitanboxing at 11/14/2006 8:57 PM
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Re: WCB: WLADIMIR KLITSCHKO VS. CALVIN BROCK
Nov 14, 2006 10:54 PM
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> Based on his history it's easy to say Wlad cannot
> acheive greatness. However, you have to admit he
> faught for the first time in control. Peter is a
> monster, but Wlad stayed around long enough to hurt
> the big-guy bad. Toney is smaller and more elusive
> than Wlad. Toney is probably one of the highest
> skilled fighter period. Wlad is a larger target.
> Briggs could stop anyone with his right hand, but I
> doubt he could land it against a fast and also
> powerfull fighter. Briggs showed a very low punch
> out-put in his last fight. He would take alot of
> punishment against Wlad IMHO.
well said.
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Re: WCB: WLADIMIR KLITSCHKO VS. CALVIN BROCK
Nov 14, 2006 10:49 PM
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> > once again im going to have to agree with dam, in
> > that timmy four toes is dumb as a stump. Shannon
> > briggs fights in spirts and is not even on wlads
> > level. wlad only clinches when he has too, that is
> > what a smart fighter does when he does not want to
> be
> > caught with a punch on the inside. wladimir
> klitzchko
> > is the real thing and will unify all the titles he
> > showed us on sat when he dominated brock with the
> > left jab that ultimatley ended with a crushing
> right.
> > as for emmanuel he is one of the best trainers out
> > there hands down. a true boxing fan will not down
> > play a sucessful talented fighter like wlad
> because
> > of personal reasons..
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> you just like jumping on a bandwagon. smart guy if
> you would have read my original post. (slow voice)
> wlad does not fair well against opponents who are
> bigggger and strongggerrrrrrr than him again(ross
> purity brewster corrie t-rex sanders). Yes i do know
> briggs is a bum as well as clinchko. But, at this
> point and time there is no one as big 6'4 and strong
> 268lbs huge swollen man. times are as tough just like
> the depression in the heavyweight division right now.
> just dont read one sentence then assume.
>
> p.s watch the peters fight he clinched atleast 87
> times byrd 56 times yeah i would call that only
> clinching when you have to
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> "your my boy blu"
Based on his history it's easy to say Wlad cannot acheive greatness. However, you have to admit he faught for the first time in control. Peter is a monster, but Wlad stayed around long enough to hurt the big-guy bad. Toney is smaller and more elusive than Wlad. Toney is probably one of the highest skilled fighter period. Wlad is a larger target. Briggs could stop anyone with his right hand, but I doubt he could land it against a fast and also powerfull fighter. Briggs showed a very low punch out-put in his last fight. He would take alot of punishment against Wlad IMHO.
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Re: WCB: WLADIMIR KLITSCHKO VS. CALVIN BROCK
Nov 14, 2006 10:23 PM
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> > > I agree lennox lewis was the same way till he
> got
> > > emanuel stewart in his corner
>
> > He's getting better, it seemed he kept to his
> > strategy. I thought he fought a smart fight. He
> > didn't go for the kill right off the bat like
> before.
> > He frustrated and broke down the banker, and then
> > when the opportunity was there, he finished him.
> > Credit Emanuel Stewart and Wlad for following the
> > game plan.
>
> No offense, but I do not understand this getting
> better and game plan you speak. whats the plan jab
> then immediately clinch fight smaller fighters(byrd
> brock). clinchko could easily be knocked by a bigger
> fighter, he just doesn't fair well against bigger
> stronger opponents(ross purity"big bum" brewster
> super strong physical and corrie sanders big white
> african t-rex)which all resulted in ko's. As much as
> i hate shannon briggs, i believe he has the best
> chance of beating him. He is huge punchs hard for 4
> rds and would easily push clinchko away when he
> grabbed. for emmauel stewart being so great i believe
> he stole all of john ruiz tactics sad.
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> "your my boy blu"
Wlad is fighting more like Lewis used too, except with a higher output. He weighed in at 241lbs, the lowest weight of his career. Top shape and kept a nice rhythm, he could of fought all 12 rounds if he needed too it seemed. Wlad used to come out like a lightweight and throw 100 punches a round, and if he didn't destroy the guy early he had stamina issues. He also threw caution to the wind thinking he could knock everyone he fought out early. He is now fighting it seems with an effective conscious aggression. He's using his jab early and staying with it until he wears his opponent down. Then he starts hooking and shooting with the right cross. This fight was the most disciplined I've seen him yet. He's actually fighting more like his older brother, except Wlad is faster. Emanuel Stewart is a Great trainer, like him or not. If Wlad continues to dominate, I give Emanuel Stewart alot of the credit for teaching Wlad how to be a consistant championship fighter.
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Re: WCB: WLADIMIR KLITSCHKO VS. CALVIN BROCK
Nov 14, 2006 10:14 PM
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> once again im going to have to agree with dam, in
> that timmy four toes is dumb as a stump. Shannon
> briggs fights in spirts and is not even on wlads
> level. wlad only clinches when he has too, that is
> what a smart fighter does when he does not want to be
> caught with a punch on the inside. wladimir klitzchko
> is the real thing and will unify all the titles he
> showed us on sat when he dominated brock with the
> left jab that ultimatley ended with a crushing right.
> as for emmanuel he is one of the best trainers out
> there hands down. a true boxing fan will not down
> play a sucessful talented fighter like wlad because
> of personal reasons..
you just like jumping on a bandwagon. smart guy if you would have read my original post. (slow voice) wlad does not fair well against opponents who are bigggger and strongggerrrrrrr than him again(ross purity brewster corrie t-rex sanders). Yes i do know briggs is a bum as well as clinchko. But, at this point and time there is no one as big 6'4 and strong 268lbs huge swollen man. times are as tough just like the depression in the heavyweight division right now. just dont read one sentence then assume.
p.s watch the peters fight he clinched atleast 87 times byrd 56 times yeah i would call that only clinching when you have to
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Re: WCB: WLADIMIR KLITSCHKO VS. CALVIN BROCK
Nov 14, 2006 10:00 PM
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timmy4toes...you're dumb as a stump and don't know a damn thing about boxing. You just don't like Wlad, it's personal for you and that's a shame. You're no boxing fan. Wlad will whip all heavyweights and Manny is a terrific trainer. Simple as that!
yes i am as dumb as a stump and do not know a thing about boxing. Yes i do not know a damn thing about boxing. For some reason the bloggers on this forum whom have the least knowledge of the sport are the quickest to share there "Vast knowledge of the sport they love and cherish".oh, finally yes "simple as that" does justify your whole arugement. I share a passion for this sport that you will not know, simple as that!
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Re: WCB: WLADIMIR KLITSCHKO VS. CALVIN BROCK
Nov 14, 2006 9:26 PM
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>agree. Briggs doesn't stand much of a chance against Wlad. Briggs is just way too slow on top of poor conditioning
' well briggs does have a heart condition. since he is the only american champion they will push for him in the big fights. such as he might just fight wlad next. dont count out a fighter untill the fight happens. i give briggs a very good chance.
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Re: WCB: WLADIMIR KLITSCHKO VS. CALVIN BROCK
Nov 14, 2006 9:13 PM
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once again im going to have to agree with dam, in that timmy four toes is dumb as a stump. Shannon briggs fights in spirts and is not even on wlads level. wlad only clinches when he has too, that is what a smart fighter does when he does not want to be caught with a punch on the inside. wladimir klitzchko is the real thing and will unify all the titles he showed us on sat when he dominated brock with the left jab that ultimatley ended with a crushing right. as for emmanuel he is one of the best trainers out there hands down. a true boxing fan will not down play a sucessful talented fighter like wlad because of personal reasons..
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Re: WCB: WLADIMIR KLITSCHKO VS. CALVIN BROCK
Nov 14, 2006 2:16 PM
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timmy4toes...you're dumb as a stump and don't know a damn thing about boxing. You just don't like Wlad, it's personal for you and that's a shame. You're no boxing fan. Wlad will whip all heavyweights and Manny is a terrific trainer. Simple as that!
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