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The reason I ask this question is because since day one with the Pacquiao De La Hoya fight people have been complaining about the big size difference, there's a post on the boards to boycott the fight, the Pavlik Hopkins fight showed what a weight/size difference can do to a great fighter who is smaller, and even on yahoo there's an article about Pacquiao entitled Wake up-call. Do you think Manny can handle this or is it a big mistake?
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Re: How worried are you for Pacquiao's health?
Dec 7, 2008 3:50 AM
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It should have been "How worried are you about Oscar's health."
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Re: How worried are you for Pacquiao's health?
Dec 7, 2008 3:48 AM
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> > Here are some stats reposted from one
> > of tszyunami's posts:
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> > Weighty matters
> >
> > Yearly breakdown of fighters' weights
> >
> > Year De La Hoya Pacquiao Differential
> > 1995.......135...........108...........27
> > 1996.......140...........113...........27
> > 1997.......145...........113...........32
> > 1998.......147...........113...........34
> > 1999.......147...........116...........31
> > 2000.......147...........120...........27
> > 2001.......154...........121...........33
> > 2002.......154...........121...........33
> > 2003.......154...........124...........30
> > 2004.......158...........125...........33
> > 2005........N/A..........130...........N/A
> > 2006.......153...........129...........24
> > 2007.......154...........129...........25
> > 2008.......150...........132...........18
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> > I think that spells: Pacquiao gets
> > Mollywopped upon the first De La Hoya
> > left hook that lands.
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> These stats has no gauge and bearing how old and
> washed up Oscar is, AND how many times has Oscar lost
> in his last six fights.
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> It also does not showand take into account where
> Manny's career is at and where Oscar's is.
>
> Sure, Oscar can land that left hook to bigger and
> much, much slower fighters like the slo-mo Mayorga,
> but ask yourself this, how much faster is Pacquiao
> compared to Mayorga??
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> If Pacquiao is used to speeds at the lower weight,
> then Oscar's won't be no problem at all.
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> Las Vegas is going to clean up on this fight, from
> what I can see on the internet, a lot of people are
> putting their money on Oscar.
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> I believe what Roach has to say, he would not put
> Manny up against Oscar if he didn't think that Oscar
> will be beaten.
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> Plus, Oscar's stance is perfect for Manny's straight
> left. Look for Manny to be landing that straight
> left repeatedly, especially in the late rounds.
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Here is another one of my post just like the previous, Jabs!
Read em' and weeeeeep! ...lol
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Re: How worried are you for Pacquiao's health?
Dec 7, 2008 3:44 AM
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> Worried about Pacquiao's health?..lol
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> Have you ever tried to hit a fly with a
> sledgehammer?
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> That is the daunting task for Oscar.
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> Do you really think that Roach is going to instruct
> t Manny to punch it out with Oscar?
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> In and out, in and out. That's what Manny is going
> to do all night long. Oscar will be too slow to keep
> up with Manny.
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> Roach said he knows why Oscar stop throwing the jab
> against Fraud GayMatter, I know why too. Oscar said
> he didn't know why he stop throwing the jab when he
> was asked during the post fight interview.
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> Of course Oscar knew why, he was tired, he "couldn't
> pull the trigger." That is what Roach meant by his
> comment.
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> Roach will instruct Manny to stay busy from round one
> and wilt Oscar. When Oscar fades in the late rounds,
> that's when Manny will turn up the heat.
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> THAT IS WHERE MANNY WILL WIN THE FIGHT, THE LATE
> ROUNDS WHEN OSCAR HAS FADED.
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> You can't prepare for old age, when the body is done,
> it's done. The spirit is willing but the body is
> not.....
>
> ...simple as that.
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> Look for Manny to tire out Oscar and then dominate
> the late rounds....UD for Pacquiao!!!
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Well, well, well.
My expertise once again keeps me undefeated..lol
Jabs, jabs....where are you..lol???
Just admit that I'm the Boxing expert suuuupreme!!
It takes a boxing mind to be able to visualize and predict correctly...something that jabs wouldn't know about..lol
NEXT?
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Re: How worried are you for Pacquiao's health?
Dec 7, 2008 2:25 AM
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> > > pacquiao by ko
> > >
> > > No way in hell my man. Oscar don't get
> KO'd. And
> > he
> > > don't cut either. Manny needs to think
> about
> > winning
> > > this one on points.
> >
> > Gun, do you mean Oscar hadn't been KO'd? Didn't
> you
> > see him lying on the canvas in great pain after
> BHOP
> > hit him on the body? Check it out in Youtube.
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> That was a liver punch and yeah I did see it. But
> that was a rarity and not typical. I don't think
> Manny has the goods to pull that off.
So Gun, did I prove you're wrong?
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Re: How worried are you for Pacquiao's health?
Nov 24, 2008 9:13 PM
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> I don't know about you guys but I'll rather
> watch Pacquiao/Hatton get it on.
> I think it would be a better action fight,
> than a DLH/Hatton bout.
>
I think you're probably right.
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Re: How worried are you for Pacquiao's health?
Nov 23, 2008 9:42 AM
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DLH/Pacquiao winner take on Hatton. I don't know about you guys but I'll rather watch Pacquiao/Hatton get it on. I think it would be a better action fight, than a DLH/Hatton bout.
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Re: How worried are you for Pacquiao's health?
Nov 22, 2008 10:03 AM
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This might sound cold, but not 1 little bit. No one forces him to go into the ring, and he makes a heck of a good living doing it.
In short -I care about as much as he caes about mine.
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Re: How worried are you for Pacquiao's health?
Nov 21, 2008 10:50 PM
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> I actually think Pacquiao will
> dart backward and side-to-side in this upcoming
> fight more than he's ever shown,
In his natural weight class ?
He'll circle around backwards and Oscar
will cut him off and left hook him or just
shoot him down with righthand leads
depending on which way he "darts".
> attempting to gain the
> angle on DeLaHoya.
It's just a guy putting on weight so he can
get beat up for a payday. He'll not steer
clear of damage......a car wreck.
He'll be outmuscled and wore down.....Like
your best post on this, in effect, said.
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Re: How worried are you for Pacquiao's health?
Nov 21, 2008 10:29 PM
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> > PacMan, as Toe2Toe puts it, squares up
> > and doesn't like to back up.
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> > Oscar, as I put it, is structurally bigger
> > and it's Pacquiao who is likely to tire if
> > Oscar decides he has to lean on him.
> >
> > Another Ketchel / Johnson here, imo.
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> Catch-all Johnson?  I actually think Pacquiao will
> dart backward and side-to-side in this upcoming fight
> more than he's ever shown, attempting to gain the
> angle on DeLaHoya. He'll be looking to throw his
> right hook more than ever also because of the way
> DeLaHoya holds his left hand forward and leaves the
> side of his head open for it. I just don't think
> Pacquiao can take many of DeLaHoya's flush shots
> however, as the size and power gap is naturally too
> great.
The arm length gap is very wide (in Goldie's favor as well)...awful matchup for PacMan. His best hope is that Oscar left his fight in Big Bear.
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Re: How worried are you for Pacquiao's health?
Nov 21, 2008 10:29 PM
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> > PacMan, as Toe2Toe puts it, squares up
> > and doesn't like to back up.
> >
> > Oscar, as I put it, is structurally bigger
> > and it's Pacquiao who is likely to tire if
> > Oscar decides he has to lean on him.
> >
> > Another Ketchel / Johnson here, imo.
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> Catch-all Johnson? I actually think Pacquiao will
> dart backward and side-to-side in this upcoming fight
> more than he's ever shown, attempting to gain the
> angle on DeLaHoya. He'll be looking to throw his
> right hook more than ever also because of the way
> DeLaHoya holds his left hand forward and leaves the
> side of his head open for it. I just don't think
> Pacquiao can take many of DeLaHoya's flush shots
> however, as the size and power gap is naturally too
> great.
The arm length gap is very wide (in Goldie's favor as well)...awful matchup for PacMan. His best hope is that Oscar left his fight in Big Bear.
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Re: How worried are you for Pacquiao's health?
Nov 21, 2008 10:23 PM
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> PacMan, as Toe2Toe puts it, squares up
> and doesn't like to back up.
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> Oscar, as I put it, is structurally bigger
> and it's Pacquiao who is likely to tire if
> Oscar decides he has to lean on him.
>
> Another Ketchel / Johnson here, imo.
Catch-all Johnson? I actually think Pacquiao will dart backward and side-to-side in this upcoming fight more than he's ever shown, attempting to gain the angle on DeLaHoya. He'll be looking to throw his right hook more than ever also because of the way DeLaHoya holds his left hand forward and leaves the side of his head open for it. I just don't think Pacquiao can take many of DeLaHoya's flush shots however, as the size and power gap is naturally too great.
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Re: How worried are you for Pacquiao's health?
Nov 21, 2008 9:43 PM
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PacMan, as Toe2Toe puts it, squares up
and doesn't like to back up.
Oscar, as I put it, is structurally bigger
and it's Pacquiao who is likely to tire if
Oscar decides he has to lean on him.
Another Ketchel / Johnson here, imo.
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Re: How worried are you for Pacquiao's health?
Nov 21, 2008 9:42 PM
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> I think DeLaHoya for the most part will attempt to
> keep the fight at long range and use his jab and
> right hand. If Pacquiao seeks to come inside,
> DeLaHoya will be looking to land the big left hook to
> end it. If and when Pacquiao dips low to go to
> DeLaHoya's body, I expect DeLaHoya to look to throw
> uppercuts, because Nacho Beristain stresses that
> punch so much to his pupils. Simply put, this is
> DeLaHoya' fight to lose.
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> You're the second person who said that. Oscar don't
> fight that way. The time he tried it with Trinidad he
> lost. He's going for the KO. He said so many times in
> the interviews and 24/7. He needs the KO to redeem
> himself that's why he's fighting such a smaller guy.
Gunner and Tsunami,
Methinks it's actually gonna be a combination of both tactics that y'all describe...Oscar using his left hand (power) jab to cut off the ring, keep Manny at bay in an attempt to walk him down and stop him w/in 6. We'll see if it happens...in all likelihood, I will NOT be watching until the HBO replay.
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Re: How worried are you for Pacquiao's health?
Nov 21, 2008 9:24 PM
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I think DeLaHoya for the most part will attempt to keep the fight at long range and use his jab and right hand. If Pacquiao seeks to come inside, DeLaHoya will be looking to land the big left hook to end it. If and when Pacquiao dips low to go to DeLaHoya's body, I expect DeLaHoya to look to throw uppercuts, because Nacho Beristain stresses that punch so much to his pupils. Simply put, this is DeLaHoya' fight to lose.
You're the second person who said that. Oscar don't fight that way. The time he tried it with Trinidad he lost. He's going for the KO. He said so many times in the interviews and 24/7. He needs the KO to redeem himself that's why he's fighting such a smaller guy.
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Re: How worried are you for Pacquiao's health?
Nov 21, 2008 9:14 PM
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I think DeLaHoya for the most part will attempt to keep the fight at long range and use his jab and right hand. If Pacquiao seeks to come inside, DeLaHoya will be looking to land the big left hook to end it. If and when Pacquiao dips low to go to DeLaHoya's body, I expect DeLaHoya to look to throw uppercuts, because Nacho Beristain stresses that punch so much to his pupils. Simply put, this is DeLaHoya' fight to lose.
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