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We all discuss boxers ducking other boxers, not doing what the fans want, or what would seal their legacy. If you were in a boxers place, knowing that your career doesn't last as long as typical careers and you're in a physically demanding sport which could cause serious problems later on in life what would you do?
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Re: If you were a boxer what would you go after the money or the challenge?
May 22, 2008 7:28 PM
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I'd go after the challenge because money wouldn't mean anything if I'd earned it fighting lesser boxers or in fights picked because I could win them.
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Re: If you were a boxer what would you go after the money or the challenge?
May 22, 2008 12:18 AM
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If I were a Pro Boxer I would hope that I could get paid well for fighting the best of the best instead of making money fighting old and never was fighters.
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Re: If you were a boxer what would you go after the money or the challenge?
May 22, 2008 12:16 AM
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"Margarito does not really have a legitimate chance against Floyd. Margarito is just way too slow to be in the ring with Floyd. Margaritos lack of speed will be the reason Cotto will beat him unless Margarito lands some crazy lucky punch that knocks Cotto out. Cott vs FLoyd could be good, but Cotto will need to improve his defense to have a real chance. He is easy to hit".
Margarito is not a one punch fight winning type of fighter and he can't outbox Cotto. His best chance to win is to wear him down and win a war of attrition. With his chin, heart and determination he has a chance of doing just that. I can't wait for this fight to happen.
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Re: If you were a boxer what would you go after the money or the challenge?
May 22, 2008 12:12 AM
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> > !!! he
> > wants and deserves to make 15 to 20 million a
> > fight!!! so if cotto can bring in that kind of
> money
> > then floyd will b all 4 it
>
> But he only got 10 million for fighting Hatton.
> So why wouldn't he take 8 or 10 million for the
> winner of Cotto/Margarito?
>
> As a Floyd fan, wouldn't you like to see that fight?
> As a fan in general, I always wanted to.....I stopped
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> propping Floyd after he stopped defending his title
> against A legitimate contender but Floyd's
> fans who remain don't seem to want him at risk 
>
> And what about a WBC manditory? Everybody
> else is required to fight manditories if they don't
> fight contenders in their division after less than
> a year......does Floyd own the WBC or what?
>
> --
> "Fighters today are babied.
> Back in my day, we took risks and fought 'em all."
> Bob Foster - undisputed
> Lightheavyweight champion 1968 - 1974
mayweatheralmost 20 million total for that fight!!!
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Re: If you were a boxer what would you go after the money or the challenge?
May 21, 2008 8:05 PM
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> Margarito does not really have a legitimate chance
> against Floyd. Margarito is just way too slow to be
> in the ring with Floyd. Margaritos lack of speed will
> be the reason Cotto will beat him unless Margarito
> lands some crazy lucky punch that knocks Cotto out.
> Cott vs FLoyd could be good, but Cotto will need to
> improve his defense to have a real chance. He is easy
> to hit.
>
> --
> Douglas
Just the same, I'd like to see Mayweather/Cotto
and/or Mayweather/Margarito a lot more than I
ever wanted to see Mayweather/Hatton.
Or for that matter, any other fights that Mayweather
ever fought. Mayweather got himself a brawl in
his first fight with Castillo who is somewhat similar
to Margarito.....and that was at 135. I think Floyd's
weakness is taller pressure fighters.
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"Fighters today are babied.
Back in my day, we took risks and fought 'em all."
Bob Foster - undisputed Lightheavyweight champion 1968 - 1974
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Edited by JimEarl at 05/21/2008 5:10 PM PDT
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Re: If you were a boxer what would you go after the money or the challenge?
May 21, 2008 7:52 PM
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Margarito does not really have a legitimate chance against Floyd. Margarito is just way too slow to be in the ring with Floyd. Margaritos lack of speed will be the reason Cotto will beat him unless Margarito lands some crazy lucky punch that knocks Cotto out. Cott vs FLoyd could be good, but Cotto will need to improve his defense to have a real chance. He is easy to hit.
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Re: If you were a boxer what would you go after the money or the challenge?
May 21, 2008 7:40 PM
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> !!! he
> wants and deserves to make 15 to 20 million a
> fight!!! so if cotto can bring in that kind of money
> then floyd will b all 4 it
But he only got 10 million for fighting Hatton.
So why wouldn't he take 8 or 10 million for the
winner of Cotto/Margarito?
As a Floyd fan, wouldn't you like to see that fight?
As a fan in general, I always wanted to.....I stopped
propping Floyd after he stopped defending his title
against A legitimate contender but Floyd's
fans who remain don't seem to want him at risk
And what about a WBC manditory? Everybody
else is required to fight manditories if they don't
fight contenders in their division after less than
a year......does Floyd own the WBC or what?
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"Fighters today are babied.
Back in my day, we took risks and fought 'em all."
Bob Foster - undisputed Lightheavyweight champion 1968 - 1974
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Re: If you were a boxer what would you go after the money or the challenge?
May 21, 2008 6:56 AM
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> juquestion, this seems a resonable thread for.
> would floyd fight cotto for margarito money? meaning
> would money take 8mil, or would he duck cotto like he
> did margarito?
first of all...mayweather didnt duck margarito. he said margarito was not worthy of a title shot. and to be honest...he really wasnt...yes margarito did have a title...but that doesnt mean he was a great fighter. their are lots of bums that have major titles currently!!!! margarito is no bum but as far as what he has accomplished he did not deserve a shot at floyd and we all kno it. and secondly...NO!!!! floyd would not fight cotto for 8 million!!!! floyd has stepped into the highest plateau there is in boxing with fighters like oscar and trinidad!!! he wants and deserves to make 15 to 20 million a fight!!! so if cotto can bring in that kind of money then floyd will b all 4 it
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Re: If you were a boxer what would you go after the money or the challenge?
May 21, 2008 4:45 AM
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I would have to say, that money, is at the forefront of every business transaction. When reality sets in, everyone goes for the money. It's too bad, that money has such an influence in ppls. lives and careers. Whatever happened to earning one's pay, for a hard days work? Ppl. want to get pay but they don't want to work hard. Quick easy money is the way to go. It seems in the boxing world, the high reward/low risk, is a business proposition, that entices not only the promoters but the fighters as well. A fighter doesn't have to fight a top ten and still he's able to make millions. What is needed in boxing is one governing body, to oversee all operational aspects of the leaque. Much like the NFL and NBA. It can help promote the sport.
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Re: If you were a boxer what would you go after the money or the challenge?
May 21, 2008 3:44 AM
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just a question, this seems a resonable thread for. would floyd fight cotto for margarito money? meaning would money take 8mil, or would he duck cotto like he did margarito?
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Re: If you were a boxer what would you go after the money or the challenge?
May 20, 2008 1:13 AM
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Duran's manager, Ray Arcel, thought it was
important for a capable fighter to establish
himself as one of the all time kings of a
division and that's how he thought of his
fighter's legacy rather than just both of
their bank accounts.
And as a capable fighter Duran completely
cleaned the Lightweight division, old school,
and then went on to more lucrative fights.
As a result Duran has definitely established
himself as one of the greatest lightweights,
by anybody's definition, despite his more
spotty record in heavier divisions.
He wasn't afraid to get in the ring with ANYBODY.
(He walked out on Leonard, in their 2nd fight, only
because Ray was making him look foolish. Cosell
made the "no mas" thing up and it stuck. What he
really said was something like f**k this s**t)
That's why Duran was a fighter that the fans adored
both then and now. Something that will be remembered
after Duran is dead and the money spent.
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"Fighters today are babied.
Back in my day, we took risks and fought 'em all."
Bob Foster - undisputed Lightheavyweight champion 1968 - 1974
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Re: If you were a boxer what would you go after the money or the challenge?
May 19, 2008 10:26 PM
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> >
> > And if you turn down a guarenteed 8 million for
> > what might be a contest it could be considered
> > that money wasn't the only factor in the
> > decision.
> >
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> LOL -- no problem with that decision, not when the
> championship was the prize -- but if he chooses to
> fight Hatton again, then that will be hard to defend
>
Well in Ali's day it would have been considered a
defence against a rated contender. In these days
it would be considered a title unification fight.
Great fighters like Ali established creds with their
haters by defending their title against all comers.
That was quite a boost to the sport after the "reign"
of Cus D'mato's fighter, Floyd Patterson who liked
fighting and swapping titles with Europe's best while
avoiding American fighters like Zora Foley and
Cleaveland "Big Cat" Williams.
So I guess it depends on who one wants to be
compared to.
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"Fighters today are babied.
Back in my day, we took risks and fought 'em all."
Bob Foster - undisputed Lightheavyweight champion 1968 - 1974
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Re: If you were a boxer what would you go after the money or the challenge?
May 19, 2008 9:52 PM
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> > The two are not mutually exclusive ... if you
> follow
> > the money, you will usually end up with legacy
> fights
> > ... it is not a perfect correlation, but a
> pretty
> > good one
> >
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> And if you turn down a guarenteed 8 million for
> what might be a contest it could be considered
> that money wasn't the only factor in the decision.
>
> --
> "Fighters today are babied.
> Back in my day, we took risks and fought 'em all."
> Bob Foster - undisputed
> Lightheavyweight champion 1968 - 1974
LOL -- no problem with that decision, not when the championship was the prize -- but if he chooses to fight Hatton again, then that will be hard to defend
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Cruiserweights - what the heavyweight division would be if the heavyweight division didn't really really really suck.
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Re: If you were a boxer what would you go after the money or the challenge?
May 19, 2008 8:57 PM
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> The two are not mutually exclusive ... if you follow
> the money, you will usually end up with legacy fights
> ... it is not a perfect correlation, but a pretty
> good one
>
And if you turn down a guarenteed 8 million for
what might be a contest it could be considered
that money wasn't the only factor in the decision.
--
"Fighters today are babied.
Back in my day, we took risks and fought 'em all."
Bob Foster - undisputed Lightheavyweight champion 1968 - 1974
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