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Jan 9, 2009 8:08 PM
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V. Klitschko to meet Gomez in March
By Dan Rafael
ESPN.com
Vitali Klitschko will defend his slice of the heavyweight title against mandatory challenger Juan Carlos Gomez after the sides came an agreement Thursday and avoided Friday's scheduled purse bid.
Shelly Finkel, Klitschko's adviser, and Gomez promoter Ahmet Öner of Arena-Box Promotions had been discussing a deal for months but, as often happens in boxing, they waited until just before the purse bid -- an auction where any WBC-registered promoter could have gained control of the fight with the highest bid.
"We're glad we were able to get it together," Finkel said. "Ahmet negotiated as a gentleman and we were able to get it done."
Under the terms of the agreement, the bout will be held on a date to be determined in March, most likely in Germany, where Klitschko, of Ukraine, and Gomez, of Cuba, are both based.
Gomez (44-1, 35 KOs), 35, a former cruiserweight titleholder before vacating after 10 defenses to move up in weight in 2002, won two elimination fights to earn the mandatory shot at the title. He beat former champion Oliver McCall via unanimous decision in October 2007 and followed with a unanimous decision against Vladimir Virchis on Sept. 27.
It won't be the first time Klitschko and Gomez will meet in the ring. When they were both promoted by Peter Kohl's Universum, they sparred together at the Universum gym. Supposedly, Klitschko knocked out Gomez, then a cruiserweight, in one of the sessions.
"I remember those times quite well because I have been a fighter myself at Universum at that time," Öner said. "I don't think Vitali ever knocked down Juan. But I can recall some sessions where Vitali went out with a bloody nose after getting a good spanking from Gomez. You should not forget that Juan was already world champion when the Klitschkos just kicked off their careers."
Gomez was not Klitschko's first choice of opponent. He had hoped to face former cruiserweight champ David Haye of England, who moved up to heavyweight and has been calling Klitschko out.
In mid-December, Haye said he had made a deal to fight Klitschko after a meeting in Germany, where they both had attended Wladimir Klitschko's title defense against Hasim Rahman.
However, had Vitali Klitschko finalized a deal with Haye, he would have been stripped by the WBC for failing to make his mandatory defense.
Haye may instead wind up instead facing Wladimir, Vitali's younger brother, this summer while Vitali faces Gomez instead.
"We know that Vitali tried all he can to get a voluntary [defense against Haye] first," Öner said. "But he has to stick to the rules and defend his belt against the No. 1 contender. & I truly believe that this will be a good fight. Recently, we have seen some boring heavyweight championships because there seem to be very few worthy challengers for the Klitschkos.
"It will definitely be a close and exciting fight. It is hard for me to make any predictions. But right now I got the impression that Vitali might underestimate Juan. And this might be our big chance because Juan will definitely not underestimate Vitali and be very well prepared for a true war."
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Jan 8, 2009 10:21 PM
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> I have a couple more good underdog picks that you've
> left out. I was like the only one on here who picked
> Pavlik to beat both Miranda and Taylor. I picked
> Lopez to beat Pounce Evander to beat the big guy
> everybody knows he was robbed.
>
> I picked Margarito to beat Cotto, I picked Vic to
> o beat the dude that beat the bullshit out of Arce
> and the legendary picks goes on and on and on.
> Anyway, Hatton beats Pacman and Shane beats
> s Margarito.
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> Styles makes fight's-Cotto won a very close fight
> t against Shane-take away the knock downs if he made
> it to the final bell the Marg fight would've been
> close also.
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> Shane had him on the run the last couple of rounds
> s but he couldn't catch him-Marg did and that was the
> difference. Anyway, Shane mixes his punches 2gether
> like a Meldrick Taylor-but with more power.
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> Shane is a vet-a very proven fighter-he loves to
> o bang 2 the body-he's been doing it before Cotto
> turned pro-so I don't think he'll 4get 2 bang Marg
> body. When I'm right don't tell me it was luck
> either.
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> Hatton and Mosely will win their fights-both fights
> are very winnable-come on man Marg can lose a
> decisioin to Shane-you guys are bugging. Tony beats
> Cotto a guy I didn't think was going to beat him
> anyway and all of a sudden he can't be beat @
> WW-that's crazy.
Those are pretty live dawgs, and I could envision both guys winning; if I were to pick one upset, it'd be Mosley (agreed). Whether I have the chutzpah to make the bet, I am not sure. 
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Jan 8, 2009 3:16 PM
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I have a couple more good underdog picks that you've left out. I was like the only one on here who picked Pavlik to beat both Miranda and Taylor. I picked Lopez to beat Pounce Evander to beat the big guy everybody knows he was robbed.
I picked Margarito to beat Cotto, I picked Vic to beat the dude that beat the bullshit out of Arce and the legendary picks goes on and on and on. Anyway, Hatton beats Pacman and Shane beats Margarito.
Styles makes fight's-Cotto won a very close fight against Shane-take away the knock downs if he made it to the final bell the Marg fight would've been close also.
Shane had him on the run the last couple of rounds but he couldn't catch him-Marg did and that was the difference. Anyway, Shane mixes his punches 2gether like a Meldrick Taylor-but with more power.
Shane is a vet-a very proven fighter-he loves to bang 2 the body-he's been doing it before Cotto turned pro-so I don't think he'll 4get 2 bang Marg body. When I'm right don't tell me it was luck either.
Hatton and Mosely will win their fights-both fights are very winnable-come on man Marg can lose a decisioin to Shane-you guys are bugging. Tony beats Cotto a guy I didn't think was going to beat him anyway and all of a sudden he can't be beat @ WW-that's crazy.
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Jan 8, 2009 8:16 AM
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John to fight Juarez in Houston
By Dan Rafael
ESPN.com
Featherweight titleholder Chris John of Indonesia is undefeated and has made 10 title defenses but remains an unknown in the United States because all of his defenses have been in Indonesia (6), Japan (3) or Australia (1).
Now, however, "The Dragon" is coming to America to defend his title against Rocky Juarez in Houston, Juarez's hometown.
They will meet at the Toyota Center on Feb. 28 in the HBO co-feature on the card headlined by lightweight world champion Juan Manuel Marquez's defense against Houston's Juan Diaz in what figures to be one of the city's biggest boxing nights ever.
"It's a natural fit to have Rocky and Juan in Houston with both of them fighting for world titles on the same card," Golden Boy CEO Richard Schaefer told ESPN.com.
The deal for John-Juarez was completed Wednesday after talks for Juarez's proposed bout with titleholder Steve Luevano ended.
A Thursday press conference is scheduled in Houston to formally announce the fight as well as the previously announced Marquez-Diaz bout.
"We have talked for a while about the right fight for John to come to the U.S. and now that time is here," Schaefer said. "It's a big fight for Chris John and the right spot for him. Everyone has accused him of just fighting in Indonesia but now he comes into the lion's den to defend his title in Rocky's hometown. It's a big showcase for both of them. For Rocky, it's an opportunity to finally win a world title and do it in his hometown, and for Chris John it's an opportunity to silence the people who say he only fights in Asia. He's not just coming to the U.S. for a fight, he's coming here to fight in his opponent's backyard."
John (42-0-1, 22 KOs), 29, whose American promotional rights are held by Golden Boy, is regarded as the No. 1 featherweight in the world. Among his defenses was a controversial decision against Marquez in Indonesia in March 2006.
"And now he's on the same card as Juan Manuel Marquez and he is a guy who beat Marquez," Schaefer said. "There are a lot of interesting storylines to this card. I am really proud and happy that HBO was able to help to come up with the necessary funds to make this happen."
Sampson Lewkowicz, John's adviser, said John's appearance in the U.S. has been a long time coming.
"I believe it is well deserved for him to invade America," Lewkowicz said. "America will see the best featherweight in the world. Chris has no problem coming over here. The only reason he didn't come over before is because nobody wanted to face him, so he's delighted that Juarez challenges him."
Lewkowicz said when John defended his title with a decision against Hiroyuki Enoki in October in Japan, he made "more than $200,000 and he is coming here for less money than he made in Japan -- just to prove himself."
Juarez (28-4, 20 KOs), who was Luevano's mandatory challenger, and promoter Golden Boy, had been trying to make that match with Luevano promoter Top Rank for the Houston card. However, Luevano manager Cameron Dunkin did not want to go to Juarez's hometown.
Top Rank proposed that the bout take place in April in Puerto Rico, where the company will promote an HBO card headlined by junior featherweight titlist Juan Manuel Lopez. But Juarez wanted to fight at home, and when John emerged as a serious option a few days ago, Juarez opted to face him in Houston rather than go to Puerto Rico to face Luevano for more money.
It will be Juarez's fifth shot at a world title. The 2000 U.S. Olympic silver medalist lost a decision to Humberto Soto for an interim featherweight belt in 2005, dropped two decisions to then-junior lightweight champion Marco Antonio Barrera in 2006 and a decision to Marquez for a junior lightweight belt in 2007.
"Rocky has seen a tape of John at his best and he believes he can beat him," Juarez manager Shelly Finkel said. "If Rocky is going to get a title, this is his best shot. If he can't do it, he just can't do it and he'll be one of the best fighters who never won a title. But if Rocky beats him, he beats the best guy in the division."
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Jan 8, 2009 8:11 AM
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Martinez-Greene fight a no-go
By Dan Rafael
ESPN.com
New York junior middleweight Joe Greene, scheduled to challenge interim titleholder Sergio Martinez on Jan. 17, withdrew Wednesday because of a bout with kidney stones.
Greene (20-0, 14 KOs), 22, who had been training in Pennsylvania's Pocono Mountains, began urinating blood over the weekend and visited the doctor, who advised him not to fight, even though Greene was feeling up to it.
"He wanted to stay in the fight despite this, but he has kidney stones and if they flare up, we have a problem," Martinez co-promoter Lou DiBella told ESPN.com. "The doctor said that he recommended that Joe not engage in any strenuous activity, so he's out of the fight. The kid was [urinating blood]. What can you do? The reason he didn't want to pull out was because he didn't feel so terrible, but he's [urinating] blood and shouldn't be fighting. There's no ifs, ands, or buts. If the fight was a couple of weeks later, maybe it would be OK."
"We're extremely disappointed that Joe didn't have a chance to win his first world title," said Leon Margules of Seminole Warriors Boxing, Greene's promoter.
With Greene out of the fight, DiBella and HBO are looking at other options.
Their first choice was titleholder Daniel Santos, whose promoter, Don King, agreed to a deal for a fight that would have been a nontitle bout over the 154-pound division limit. However, Santos turned the fight down, feeling he wouldn't have enough time to be ready on 10 days' notice, DiBella said.
The two other names in play are Philadelphia's Anthony Thompson (23-3, 17 KOs) and former titleholder Travis Simms (26-1, 19 KOs).
Thompson, 27, a decorated amateur, has lost two fights in a row but both were highly controversial. He dropped a split decision to Yuri Foreman in June 2007 in a fight many ringsider observers felt Thompson won. In August, Thompson was battering Ishmail Arvin but suffered a bad cut over his eye. The fight was stopped and Arvin was awarded a sixth-round TKO victory -- even though video replays clearly showed the cut was caused by an accidental head butt.
Simms, 37, or Norwalk, Conn., lost his title in front of his hometown fans to Joachim Alcine via unanimous decision in July 2007. Simms returned to notch a six-round decision win in August against Mike McFail, whose loss dropped him to 1-27-1 in his previous 29 bouts.
Martinez (44-1-1, 24 KOs), who is from Argentina but lives in Spain, made a splash on Oct. 4 in his HBO debut when he blistered Alex Bunema, stopping him in the eighth round to claim the vacant interim belt and become the mandatory challenger for titleholder Vernon Forrest.
In the main event of the Jan. 17 "Boxing After Dark," welterweight titleholder Andre Berto (23-0, 19 KOs) makes his second defense against mandatory challenger (and former titleholder) Luis Collazo (29-3, 14 KOs) at the Beau Rivage Resort & Casino in Biloxi, Miss.
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Jan 7, 2009 3:55 PM
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> Here's my pic's, Shane over Margarito, Hatton over
> Pacman-yeah I said it. Damn, it seems like I go
> against Pac everytime he fights. I bet this guy who
> happens to be Phillipino that Erick Morales would win
> the 3rd fight.
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> The bet was the loser had to do 100 push up's and 30
> 0 pull up's in 6 minutes, piece of cake. I like
> Manny, it's just that most of the time I like the the
> other fighter more. Let me just say this right here,
> Manny is a great fighter and he's very exciting.
>
> I like Manny and his story/ plus he has a picture of
> Bruce Lee that I wish I had. Anyway, win lose or
> draw-he'a lengendary and we might not ever see
> another 1 like him again-he's really done alot in
> this sport. I'm still going for Ricky though.
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> I'm going for Ricky mainly because most of yall are
> e going against him. Oh yeah, Vic stops Arce. I
> wont pick a winner in the Collazo vs Berto fight, but
> Collazo is a cool cat and true to his word-he's a
> really good person-Berto probably is to but I
> wouldn't know-so I'm going for Collazo.
mannmann, I think your legendary prediction of B-Hop dominating Pavlik is making you go crazy with these underdog picks. Not only are Mosley and Hatton not going to win, their going to get pummeled.
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Jan 7, 2009 3:35 PM
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Here's my pic's, Shane over Margarito, Hatton over Pacman-yeah I said it. Damn, it seems like I go against Pac everytime he fights. I bet this guy who happens to be Phillipino that Erick Morales would win the 3rd fight.
The bet was the loser had to do 100 push up's and 30 pull up's in 6 minutes, piece of cake. I like Manny, it's just that most of the time I like the the other fighter more. Let me just say this right here, Manny is a great fighter and he's very exciting.
I like Manny and his story/ plus he has a picture of Bruce Lee that I wish I had. Anyway, win lose or draw-he'a lengendary and we might not ever see another 1 like him again-he's really done alot in this sport. I'm still going for Ricky though.
I'm going for Ricky mainly because most of yall are going against him. Oh yeah, Vic stops Arce. I wont pick a winner in the Collazo vs Berto fight, but Collazo is a cool cat and true to his word-he's a really good person-Berto probably is to but I wouldn't know-so I'm going for Collazo.
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Dec 31, 2008 11:09 PM
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Happy New Year to all, whom I've come in contact. I've respected your opinion and look forward to 2009. Peace.
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I only watched Valuev fight once and that was more than enough 4 me 2 know he's a BIG HAIRY BUM. He has no skills-he's just on some 8th wonder of the world shit.
Anyway, on 2 way more important shit-I was wrong about the Pac vs Dela fight-mainly because I didn't care and still could give a damn about it. I will be right about the Mosely vs Margarito fight though.
I tell yall what-Mosely wins this fight or the 3 old guys will do more than Marg did during the fight and take it away from him-maybe kinda like how they did Evander when he fought the ape.
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Dec 21, 2008 10:47 PM
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Holyfield proved that Valuev isn't that tough. He's big but not tough or very skilled. I understand why he doesn't want to fight the Klitschkos. If he almost lost to Holyfield then he won't have the belt for long. James Toney should go take the belt from him or Areolla or somebody!!
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Dec 20, 2008 3:55 PM
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HOLYFIELD VS VALUEV LIVE AND 100% FREE HD STREAM theslammer.webs.com
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Dec 20, 2008 12:44 PM
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Margarito is finding out that it is nice to hold the title. He wants nothing to do with CLottey or WIlliams, otherwise those fights would be happening. If he beats Shane, which he will, it means nothing at all for him. On the other hand, you got CLottey, who gave him a great fight, and WIlliams, who beat him. Looks obvious to me
Keep barking doug, maybe he will hear you.
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Dec 20, 2008 12:11 PM
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Margarito is finding out that it is nice to hold the title. He wants nothing to do with CLottey or WIlliams, otherwise those fights would be happening. If he beats Shane, which he will, it means nothing at all for him. On the other hand, you got CLottey, who gave him a great fight, and WIlliams, who beat him. Looks obvious to me
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Dec 20, 2008 2:43 AM
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Except that he's already at the top of the list.
Gun - 'Show-off'...lol!
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