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> MAYWEATHER-PACQUIAO: THE DOUBLE STANDARD
> By Michael Herron
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> The highly anticipated return of Floyd Mayweather,
> Jr. and Manny Pacquiaos dramatic knockout of Ricky
> Hatton has ignited the boxing world and sparked a
> great debate; fight fans are anxious to know which
> guy is the best, who is truly the top pound-for-pound
> fighter in the world? Pound-for-pound by definition
> was created to describe a fighter with great skill
> who can move up and down the scales, challenge
> fighters in multiple weight classes, and continue to
> perform and be just as successful as they would at
> their optimal weight. With this in mind, both
> fighters fit the description well, but in terms of
> acknowledging pound-for-pound greatness, there
> appears to be a double standard in favor of Manny
> Pacquiao.
>
> Floyd Mayweather, Jr. has won titles in five weight
> classes, 130, 135, 140, 147, 154, yet none of his
> ring accomplishments are without criticism from the
> boxing media. During the Hatton-Pacquiao telecast for
> instance, Larry Merchant, in reference to
> Mayweathers return to boxing, went on a tirade
> accusing Floyd of cherrypicking opponents, pricing
> himself out of fights, and flat out ducking fighters.
> Yet an obvious fact such as Pacquiao facing an
> opponent Mayweather has already defeated is never
> mentioned. It also seemed to fall under the radar
> that Mayweather had already defeated Pacquiaos
> previous opponent Oscar De La Hoya as well.
>
> The irony is that Pacquiaos claim to being the
> undisputed best is largely based on these two fights.
> For the past few years, boxing writers, reporters,
> diehard fans, and media personalities have adopted an
> infamous view that Hatton and De La Hoya were merely
> cherry picked opponents, simply diversions while
> Mayweather avoided challenges from welterweights
> Miguel Cotto, Shane Mosley, and Antonio Margarito;
> yet these same two opponents are considered grand
> slam victories for Pacquiao; victories that prove
> beyond the shadow of a doubt that he is
> pound-for-pound the best fighter in the world. How
> can this be if they were previously declared
> cherries?
>
> Though Pacquiaos supporters would argue that his
> wins over Marco Antonio Barrera, Erik Morales, and
> Juan Manuel Marquez catapulted him to this status it
> was not sealed until Mayweather officially retired in
> 2008 and Pacquiao went on to defeat De La Hoya later
> the same year. Pacquiao certainly deserves credit for
> his victories over such a famous trio of Mexican
> warriors but in terms of a young fighter establishing
> himself--climbing the ladder, who can argue that
> Mayweather did not likewise defeat great fighters in
> the lighter weights? Surely no one would argue that
> Genaro Hernandez, Diego Corrales, Jesus Chavez, Angel
> Manfredy, Jose Luis Castillo, were cream puffs.
>
> To further illustrate the double standard enter the
> #2 pound-for-pound fighter in the world Juan Manuel
> Marquez. Team Mayweather announced that Floyd will
> face Marquez on his July 18th return to the sport.
> He did not choose any old random contender as a
> a tune-up but a multi-division world champion and in
> many observers opinion, two time conqueror of Manny
> Pacquiao. (Pacquiao scored a draw and a win against
> Marquez). The same media proponents that declared
> Hatton and De La Hoya cherries are now blasting
> Mayweather for taking a fight against proven champion
> Marquez. They argue that Marquez is too small or that
> Floyd knows he can beat him etc...Yet if Manny
> Pacquiao were to accept a third fight against
> Marquez, hed be hailed as a true champion, a true
> warrior, the real pound-for-pound king.
>
> So what is truly going on here? Is it a weight issue?
> Freddie Roach declared that Pacquiaos optimal weight
> is 140 and that is where he will be at his best.
> Mayweather, being a small welterweight, appears to be
> at his best somewhere between 140 and 147. In
> addition, Marquez has been moving up in weight
> successfully and it is he who called out Mayweather
> at a catchweight below 147. Is 3-4 pounds really so
> great a difference that Mayweather has to be
> persecuted for accepting a fight against Marquez?
> Catchweights are nothing new in boxing, why is it
> suddenly an issue now? Assuming Mayweather defeats
> Marquez, will diehard fans and media raise this same
> 3-4 pound argument when it is Pacquiaos turn to face
> Mayweather?
>
> What is clear is that an answer to who is the best
> pound-for-pound can not be given based on their
> performance against common opponents, or their
> careers at the lighter weights. Both guys have been
> dynamic and only a battle against each other can
> settle the matter. It can be noted however that there
> is a double standard at play when it comes to
> Mayweather and Pacquiao. The media bashes
> Mayweathers accomplishments but hail Pacquiao for
> achieving the same thing. Also, Freddie Roach has
> indicated that Pacquiao will not move up to 147 to
> face Mayweather however it was just fine to move up
> for De La Hoya. Mayweather is blasted for fighting
> Marquez but Pacquiao would be a hero if he did the
> same. What this all indicates is that it is
> ultimately not simply a case of Mayweather
> handpicking opponents but it is more likely his
> opponents who are careful about picking him.
Mayweather draws harsh criticism because he never took any risks. Yes he beat Hernandez, Corrales, Chavez, Manfredy, Castillo, DLH, and Hatton, an impressive bunch but only the real Mayweather haters thought Floyd was going to lose. WHen it looked like there was some real competition for him in the welterweight division Floyd ducked them all and retired. When you're undefeated and hold a piece of the welterweight crown and the other pieces of the welterweight crown are in the hands of undefeated fighters you don't just walk away and say I have nothing else to prove or accomplish...how about becoming the undisputed welterweight champ? Thats like Sugar Ray Leonard retiring before he fought Tommy Hearns. When Floyd retired Cotto, Margarito, Williams, and Mosley were all blockbuster fights that could have been made. These were the tough fights, the fights that would have had odds makers at odds with each other. These were the fights that Mayweather would have had to extend himself in. But who did he fight in his last three fights when he was supossed to be (and this is by his own admission) in the prime of his career: Baldomir(target practice), De La Hoya(over the hill, shot, and too damned slow), and Ricky Hatton(who despite having a good rep on paper was cleary overmatched target practice). Not to mention Mayweather oversold the DLH fight. When you tell people that you are going to tear your opponent apart and "f*ck him up" and then on fight night you seem intent on outpointing them you lose respect. Pac-Man gets respect because he takes fights that people think he might lose(but honsestly if you picked Hatton you must have been smoking crack or sipping the HBO 24/7 Kool-Aid) and he delivers a fan friendly fighting style. I really like Mayweather but sometimes he can be a "cute" and seems to think outpointing overmatched opponents gives the crowd a good show and irregardless of how poetically some boxing writers might defend him he ducked the best competition of his career when retired early. JMM is an intriging fight but Mayweather is the clear favorite. Everybody seems to think PacMan/Mayweather would be the sh*t, but, and I've said it before, I think Sugar Shane should get to fight Pac-Man before Mayweather does because although beating up an overclassed Hatton was nice, Mosley beating the snot out of Margarito is still the fight of the year for me and considering the Hatton destruction was a close number 2 it only makes sense that SSM and Pac-Man hook up for an action packed slobber knocker. Mayweather can get the winner of Cotto/Clottey(a fight that I think is being overshadowed by the general boxing public but one that I think will be a fight of the year contender) and then the winner of that fight gets the winner of the SSM/PacMan fight. Wishful thinking, but really thats how it should workout
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May 9, 2009 4:24 PM
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> Since their 2nd controversial ending who's fought the
> better fighters?
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> Marquez-Casamoyor-J.Diaz & Floyd Mayweather
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> Pacquaio-D.Diaz-De La Hoya & Ricky Hatton
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> So I guess Pacquiao is P4P #1 because of his
> controversial fight (that most thought he lost)
> against Marquez.
Pac has won the bigger events mannmann. You know how it is. Marquez's opponents have been probably better than Pac's, but Pac has had two masterful performances in the last two megafight/mega events in boxing. Therefore, in the public's eye, he's the man.
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May 9, 2009 3:40 PM
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Since their 2nd controversial ending who's fought the better fighters?
Marquez-Casamoyor-J.Diaz & Floyd Mayweather
Pacquaio-D.Diaz-De La Hoya & Ricky Hatton
So I guess Pacquiao is P4P #1 because of his controversial fight (that most thought he lost) against Marquez.
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May 9, 2009 1:57 PM
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> In my opinion mayweather is the p4p king and just
> because he is an outspoken fighter that at times
> seems cocky his victories over fighters are trashed.
> Floyd has beaten a many of good fighters in there
> prime and has never been in a fight were anyone can
> say he lost.
>
> As for pac the 2 marquez bouts are a big ? And he
> would have not beaten Marco A Barrera the second time
> if Barrera was not old.
Don't get me wrong, I predict that Mayweather will stop Marquez and defeat Pacquiao too (no questioning his talent or skills, if not his matchmaking skills of late  , BUT right now Pac Man is the lb-4-lb king until he loses.
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May 9, 2009 12:55 PM
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> In my opinion mayweather is the p4p king and just
> because he is an outspoken fighter that at times
> seems cocky his victories over fighters are trashed.
> Floyd has beaten a many of good fighters in there
> prime and has never been in a fight were anyone can
> say he lost.
>
> As for pac the 2 marquez bouts are a big ? And he
> would have not beaten Marco A Barrera the second time
> if Barrera was not old.
I don't think you can call Mayweather the P4P King because he vacated that title when he "retired." That would be like saying he's once again the welterweight champion. He gave up his titles, and now he has to come back and get em. He says he's coming back to "claim what's mine." His fight with Marquez is a major step in the right direction in reclaiming his P4P title. If successful, he'll need to see the current King (Pacquaio), and beat him, before he can once again be called the P4P King of boxing. As for his welterweight title, there's a pretty meaningful fight next month, and a guy named Shane Mosley who he'll need to see before he can once again be called the man in the welterweight division.
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May 9, 2009 12:27 PM
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In my opinion mayweather is the p4p king and just because he is an outspoken fighter that at times seems cocky his victories over fighters are trashed. Floyd has beaten a many of good fighters in there prime and has never been in a fight were anyone can say he lost.
As for pac the 2 marquez bouts are a big ? And he would have not beaten Marco A Barrera the second time if Barrera was not old.
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May 9, 2009 12:11 PM
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> MAYWEATHER-PACQUIAO: THE DOUBLE STANDARD
> By Michael Herron
>
> The highly anticipated return of Floyd Mayweather,
> Jr. and Manny Pacquiaos dramatic knockout of Ricky
> Hatton has ignited the boxing world and sparked a
> great debate; fight fans are anxious to know which
> guy is the best, who is truly the top pound-for-pound
> fighter in the world? Pound-for-pound by definition
> was created to describe a fighter with great skill
> who can move up and down the scales, challenge
> fighters in multiple weight classes, and continue to
> perform and be just as successful as they would at
> their optimal weight. With this in mind, both
> fighters fit the description well, but in terms of
> acknowledging pound-for-pound greatness, there
> appears to be a double standard in favor of Manny
> Pacquiao.
>
> Floyd Mayweather, Jr. has won titles in five weight
> classes, 130, 135, 140, 147, 154, yet none of his
> ring accomplishments are without criticism from the
> boxing media. During the Hatton-Pacquiao telecast for
> instance, Larry Merchant, in reference to
> Mayweathers return to boxing, went on a tirade
> accusing Floyd of cherrypicking opponents, pricing
> himself out of fights, and flat out ducking fighters.
> Yet an obvious fact such as Pacquiao facing an
> opponent Mayweather has already defeated is never
> mentioned. It also seemed to fall under the radar
> that Mayweather had already defeated Pacquiaos
> previous opponent Oscar De La Hoya as well.
>
> The irony is that Pacquiaos claim to being the
> undisputed best is largely based on these two fights.
> For the past few years, boxing writers, reporters,
> diehard fans, and media personalities have adopted an
> infamous view that Hatton and De La Hoya were merely
> cherry picked opponents, simply diversions while
> Mayweather avoided challenges from welterweights
> Miguel Cotto, Shane Mosley, and Antonio Margarito;
> yet these same two opponents are considered grand
> slam victories for Pacquiao; victories that prove
> beyond the shadow of a doubt that he is
> pound-for-pound the best fighter in the world. How
> can this be if they were previously declared
> cherries?
>
> Though Pacquiaos supporters would argue that his
> wins over Marco Antonio Barrera, Erik Morales, and
> Juan Manuel Marquez catapulted him to this status it
> was not sealed until Mayweather officially retired in
> 2008 and Pacquiao went on to defeat De La Hoya later
> the same year. Pacquiao certainly deserves credit for
> his victories over such a famous trio of Mexican
> warriors but in terms of a young fighter establishing
> himself--climbing the ladder, who can argue that
> Mayweather did not likewise defeat great fighters in
> the lighter weights? Surely no one would argue that
> Genaro Hernandez, Diego Corrales, Jesus Chavez, Angel
> Manfredy, Jose Luis Castillo, were cream puffs.
>
> To further illustrate the double standard enter the
> #2 pound-for-pound fighter in the world Juan Manuel
> Marquez. Team Mayweather announced that Floyd will
> face Marquez on his July 18th return to the sport.
> He did not choose any old random contender as a
> a tune-up but a multi-division world champion and in
> many observers opinion, two time conqueror of Manny
> Pacquiao. (Pacquiao scored a draw and a win against
> Marquez). The same media proponents that declared
> Hatton and De La Hoya cherries are now blasting
> Mayweather for taking a fight against proven champion
> Marquez. They argue that Marquez is too small or that
> Floyd knows he can beat him etc...Yet if Manny
> Pacquiao were to accept a third fight against
> Marquez, hed be hailed as a true champion, a true
> warrior, the real pound-for-pound king.
>
> So what is truly going on here? Is it a weight issue?
> Freddie Roach declared that Pacquiaos optimal weight
> is 140 and that is where he will be at his best.
> Mayweather, being a small welterweight, appears to be
> at his best somewhere between 140 and 147. In
> addition, Marquez has been moving up in weight
> successfully and it is he who called out Mayweather
> at a catchweight below 147. Is 3-4 pounds really so
> great a difference that Mayweather has to be
> persecuted for accepting a fight against Marquez?
> Catchweights are nothing new in boxing, why is it
> suddenly an issue now? Assuming Mayweather defeats
> Marquez, will diehard fans and media raise this same
> 3-4 pound argument when it is Pacquiaos turn to face
> Mayweather?
>
> What is clear is that an answer to who is the best
> pound-for-pound can not be given based on their
> performance against common opponents, or their
> careers at the lighter weights. Both guys have been
> dynamic and only a battle against each other can
> settle the matter. It can be noted however that there
> is a double standard at play when it comes to
> Mayweather and Pacquiao. The media bashes
> Mayweathers accomplishments but hail Pacquiao for
> achieving the same thing. Also, Freddie Roach has
> indicated that Pacquiao will not move up to 147 to
> face Mayweather however it was just fine to move up
> for De La Hoya. Mayweather is blasted for fighting
> Marquez but Pacquiao would be a hero if he did the
> same. What this all indicates is that it is
> ultimately not simply a case of Mayweather
> handpicking opponents but it is more likely his
> opponents who are careful about picking him.
Interesting article and a lot of truth in it BUT I generally think these are the four main reason why PacMan gets more props in general by many fans: 1) many fight fans simply do not like Floyd's fighting style (defensive-minded); 2) many don't like his personality (hip-hop/street bravado); 3) many feel that the body of pacman's work/opponents exceed his, and 4) manny starter off at like a buck in weight (to begin his career). I think reasons 1 and 2 are pretty ignorant (and I don't think he should not be given his just due because of these reasons). #3 is somewhat fair, but the body of Mayweather's work isn't as bad as many make it seem (what is clear is that at 147 there were a handful of tough SOBs that he didn't fight for various reasons). But #4 is the biggest reason I think, any win by Manny at a higher weight is viewed greater because he's so small.
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http://www.fightinsight.com/2009/05/03/pacqui-wow-manny-pacquiao-annihilates-ricky-hatton/
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MAYWEATHER-PACQUIAO: THE DOUBLE STANDARD
By Michael Herron
The highly anticipated return of Floyd Mayweather, Jr. and Manny Pacquiao?s dramatic knockout of Ricky Hatton has ignited the boxing world and sparked a great debate; fight fans are anxious to know which guy is the best, who is truly the top pound-for-pound fighter in the world? Pound-for-pound by definition was created to describe a fighter with great skill who can move up and down the scales, challenge fighters in multiple weight classes, and continue to perform and be just as successful as they would at their optimal weight. With this in mind, both fighters fit the description well, but in terms of acknowledging pound-for-pound greatness, there appears to be a double standard in favor of Manny Pacquiao.
Floyd Mayweather, Jr. has won titles in five weight classes, 130, 135, 140, 147, 154, yet none of his ring accomplishments are without criticism from the boxing media. During the Hatton-Pacquiao telecast for instance, Larry Merchant, in reference to Mayweather?s return to boxing, went on a tirade accusing Floyd of cherrypicking opponents, pricing himself out of fights, and flat out ducking fighters. Yet an obvious fact such as Pacquiao facing an opponent Mayweather has already defeated is never mentioned. It also seemed to fall under the radar that Mayweather had already defeated Pacquiao?s previous opponent Oscar De La Hoya as well.
The irony is that Pacquiao?s claim to being the undisputed best is largely based on these two fights. For the past few years, boxing writers, reporters, diehard fans, and media personalities have adopted an infamous view that Hatton and De La Hoya were merely cherry picked opponents, simply diversions while Mayweather avoided challenges from welterweights Miguel Cotto, Shane Mosley, and Antonio Margarito; yet these same two opponents are considered grand slam victories for Pacquiao; victories that prove beyond the shadow of a doubt that he is pound-for-pound the best fighter in the world. How can this be if they were previously declared ?cherries??
Though Pacquiao?s supporters would argue that his wins over Marco Antonio Barrera, Erik Morales, and Juan Manuel Marquez catapulted him to this status it was not sealed until Mayweather officially retired in 2008 and Pacquiao went on to defeat De La Hoya later the same year. Pacquiao certainly deserves credit for his victories over such a famous trio of Mexican warriors but in terms of a young fighter establishing himself--climbing the ladder, who can argue that Mayweather did not likewise defeat great fighters in the lighter weights? Surely no one would argue that Genaro Hernandez, Diego Corrales, Jesus Chavez, Angel Manfredy, Jose Luis Castillo, were cream puffs.
To further illustrate the double standard enter the #2 pound-for-pound fighter in the world Juan Manuel Marquez. Team Mayweather announced that Floyd will face Marquez on his July 18th return to the sport. He did not choose any old random contender as a tune-up but a multi-division world champion and in many observers opinion, two time conqueror of Manny Pacquiao. (Pacquiao scored a draw and a win against Marquez). The same media proponents that declared Hatton and De La Hoya ?cherries? are now blasting Mayweather for taking a fight against proven champion Marquez. They argue that Marquez is too small or that Floyd knows he can beat him etc...Yet if Manny Pacquiao were to accept a third fight against Marquez, he?d be hailed as a true champion, a true warrior, the real pound-for-pound king.
So what is truly going on here? Is it a weight issue? Freddie Roach declared that Pacquiao?s optimal weight is 140 and that is where he will be at his best. Mayweather, being a small welterweight, appears to be at his best somewhere between 140 and 147. In addition, Marquez has been moving up in weight successfully and it is he who called out Mayweather at a catchweight below 147. Is 3-4 pounds really so great a difference that Mayweather has to be persecuted for accepting a fight against Marquez? Catchweights are nothing new in boxing, why is it suddenly an issue now? Assuming Mayweather defeats Marquez, will diehard fans and media raise this same 3-4 pound argument when it is Pacquiao?s turn to face Mayweather?
What is clear is that an answer to who is the best pound-for-pound can not be given based on their performance against common opponents, or their careers at the lighter weights. Both guys have been dynamic and only a battle against each other can settle the matter. It can be noted however that there is a double standard at play when it comes to Mayweather and Pacquiao. The media bashes Mayweather?s accomplishments but hail Pacquiao for achieving the same thing. Also, Freddie Roach has indicated that Pacquiao will not move up to 147 to face Mayweather however it was just fine to move up for De La Hoya. Mayweather is blasted for fighting Marquez but Pacquiao would be a hero if he did the same. What this all indicates is that it is ultimately not simply a case of Mayweather ?handpicking? opponents but it is more likely his opponents who are careful about picking him.
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> Former WBA heavyweight champion John Ruiz says he?s
> willing to risk his WBA mandatory challenger status
> against any of his fellow American heavyweights.
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> ?I?ve been told I?m not the most fan-friendly
> y fighter in the world, my style often criticized as
> being ugly, but I?m proud to say I?ve never ducked a
> worthy opponent,? said Ruiz in an open letter. ?For
> the past month or two, though, I?ve read and heard a
> lot BS about how I shouldn?t be the WBA mandatory
> title challenger.
>
> A few totally unproven, so-called contenders have
> e whined about them deserving a world title shot more
> than I do. Why? Who have Chris Arreola, Eddie
> Chambers, Kevin Johnson or Brian Minto beaten to
> deserve a world title shot? Nobody!?
>
>
> He continued, ?Just compare my list of victories to
> yours. You guys haven?t come close to doing what I?ve
> accomplished. I?ve been where you?re trying to get ?
> 11 world title fights (2 WBA titles) ? and I?m even
> willing to risk my WBA mandatory title shot next year
> against the Chagaev-Valuev II winner just to show
> everyone that I?m entitled to another world
> championship fight.
>
> Prove me wrong. Stop all of the smack talk, try and
> beat me in the ring ? the only place it really counts
> ? to be the real No. 1 American heavyweight.
>
> ?Next year, I?ll be fighting for the crown again
> unless one of you pretenders step-up and change my
> schedule.?Show the boxing world that you?re a true
> contender, not a pretender. You want it, come and get
> it ? put your money where your mouth is. No more
> excuses, just contact my attorney Tony Cardinale
> (your promoters know how), and let?s make it happen.?
LMAO at John Ruiz talking sh*t!!!
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My bad Jarule, didn't realize you already sent it. Anyway, I know most on this site only like who's hot right now-but isn't this what most of you say you look for in a fighter?
John Ruiz may jab and grab but he's been very successful at this style. He does have a pretty good track record and he's always been willing to fight just about anyone. For awhile no one was able to beat him except the 2 smallest HW's in Jones and Toney.
I know Tua beat him waay back when but he deserves a title shot-no 1 gave John Ruiz anything-he came up the hard way and earned everything-the hardway. He is a boring fighter,but winning is winning and he deserves his shot again.
Also-he had a decent title reigh when he was champ-I think he makes good points and I like how he's more than willing to prove it in the ring.
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Former WBA heavyweight champion John Ruiz says he?s willing to risk his WBA mandatory challenger status against any of his fellow American heavyweights.
?I?ve been told I?m not the most fan-friendly fighter in the world, my style often criticized as being ugly, but I?m proud to say I?ve never ducked a worthy opponent,? said Ruiz in an open letter. ?For the past month or two, though, I?ve read and heard a lot BS about how I shouldn?t be the WBA mandatory title challenger.
A few totally unproven, so-called contenders have whined about them deserving a world title shot more than I do. Why? Who have Chris Arreola, Eddie Chambers, Kevin Johnson or Brian Minto beaten to deserve a world title shot? Nobody!?
He continued, ?Just compare my list of victories to yours. You guys haven?t come close to doing what I?ve accomplished. I?ve been where you?re trying to get ? 11 world title fights (2 WBA titles) ? and I?m even willing to risk my WBA mandatory title shot next year against the Chagaev-Valuev II winner just to show everyone that I?m entitled to another world championship fight.
Prove me wrong. Stop all of the smack talk, try and beat me in the ring ? the only place it really counts ? to be the real No. 1 American heavyweight.
?Next year, I?ll be fighting for the crown again unless one of you pretenders step-up and change my schedule.?Show the boxing world that you?re a true contender, not a pretender. You want it, come and get it ? put your money where your mouth is. No more excuses, just contact my attorney Tony Cardinale (your promoters know how), and let?s make it happen.?
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May 5, 2009 10:55 PM
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> > Jarule--Ruiz no longer sounds like,The Quiet
> > Man. 'L'
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> Yes, I liked him quiet and (I thought) retired.
>
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Jarule--Ruiz no longer sounds like,The Quiet Man. 'L'
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SOMETHING TO MAKE Y'ALL LAUGH (SMILE)
Open letter from John Ruiz
to the Top American Heavyweights
To America?s ?Top? Heavyweight Boxers,
I?ve been told I?m not the most fan-friendly fighter in the world, my style often criticized as being ugly, but I?m proud to say I?ve never ducked a worthy opponent. For the past month or two, though, I?ve read and heard a lot BS about how I shouldn?t be the WBA mandatory title challenger. A few totally unproven, so-called contenders have whined about them deserving a world title shot more than I do.
Why? Who have Chris Arreola, Eddie Chambers, Kevin Johnson or Brian Minto beaten to deserve a world title shot? Nobody! Just compare my list of victories to yours. You guys haven?t come close to doing what I?ve accomplished.
I?ve been where you?re trying to get ? 11 world title fights (2 WBA titles) -- and I?m even willing to risk my WBA mandatory title shot next year against the Chagaev-Valuev II winner just to show everyone that I?m entitled to another world championship fight. Prove me wrong. Stop all of the smack talk, try and beat me in the ring ? the only place it really counts -- to be the real No. 1 American heavyweight. Next year, I?ll be fighting for the crown again unless one of you pretenders step-up and change my schedule.
Show the boxing world that you?re a true contender, not a pretender. You want it, come and get it ? put your money where your mouth is. No more excuses, just contact my attorney Tony Cardinale (your promoters know how), and let?s make it happen.
John ?The Quietman? Ruiz
2-Time WBA Heavyweight Champion
-JR-
CONTACT:
Bob Trieger, Full Court Press, 978.664.4482, bobtfcp@hotmail.com
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