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We saw him test himself against a great fighter in Floyd Mayweather Jr. He had to move up two weight classes and was up against a much bigger, faster, stronger fighter and wasn't able to do much of anything against him. Where do you see his career going, and who are some possible opponents for him?
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Re: What do you think is next for Juan Manuel Marquez?
Sep 28, 2009 9:42 AM
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Marquez has many options. People shouldn't count him out after the Mayweather fight. He could either stay and dominate at 135 or he could try and get a run at 140. I mean he already did enough at 135, he took out the lineal champ in Casamayor, and he KO'ed the number 1 contender at the time in J.Diaz and he was the smaller man coming up from 130.
I wouldn't mind seeing him stay at 135 and defending his titles a few times, a Valero or Katsidis fight would be great to watch, the man is already going into the HOF, I say if he wants to kick it up a notch, he can try and take on a champ at 140. A fight with Pacquiao is a must have, their careers won't come to full circle until they fight for a third time.
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Re: What do you think is next for Juan Manuel Marquez?
Sep 27, 2009 8:37 PM
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i myself am a huge marquez fan and id love for him to take on the likes of valero, katsidis, peterson and even funeka. or see him try to become the first mexican fighter to win titles in four different weight classes by taking on one of the talented fighters at 140 like bradley, khan, urango and of course a rubermtach with pacquiao. but my question is how much does he have left?
itd be terrible to see what happened to roy jones happen to marquez. you know aging great moves up a couple weight classes then comes down fast and is drained and ultimately vanquished. although itd be less likely for marquez because he never relied on his speed the way jones did.
i think he deserves an easy fight at like 138 or somewhere just so we can see where he stands and which weight he should go for whether it be 135 or 140. then go for a title deffense or go for a whole new title haha. id like to see him face valero at 135. but if pacquiao loses to cotto i think a ruber match at 140 or so is a must, that is if marquez is fit at junior welterweight which im really not sure about.
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Re: What do you think is next for Juan Manuel Marquez?
Sep 27, 2009 2:23 PM
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Mannmann6--- Them are good examples, where an early stoppage, would have cheated fighters and fans alike of astounding outcomes.
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Re: What do you think is next for Juan Manuel Marquez?
Sep 27, 2009 1:56 PM
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> > Hit--When a fight is stopped due to a fighter's
> > inability to defend himself and risking
> permanent
> > damage, yes I'm all for it. That wasn't the
> case. Let
> > me put it this way. Was Buddy McGirt thinking
> of
> > Malignaggi's career at all, when he stopped the
> bout?
> > I think not, by the way Paulie was protesting.
> > Malignaggi could have ended up on ESPN or one of
> the
> > local channels. You probably laugh but it's
> true.
> > When a fighter is at crossroads, a stoppage can
> make
> > e or break a career. . . The ref., ringside Dr.
> and
> > the commissioner allowed the match to go on.
> McGirt
> > made a wrong decision in stopping the bout;
> instead
> > he should have waited it out. There were less
> than
> > 2rds. left in the bout. It was a bad judgement
> call,
> > that could have cost Malignaggi millions.
> Luckily,
> > Malignaggi landed a bout with The Baby Bull.
>
> Bruh, when a fight is as lopsided as
> Mayweather-Marquez or hatton-Malignaggi was, the
> "official" result is almost meaningless. Malignaggi
> can't punch. He is only gonna win a decision. He
> clearly wasn't gonna KO Hatton or win a decision.
> Why let him take unnecessary punishment? Marquez
> z couldn't hurt Mayweather. And it got to the point
> where he couldn't defend himself. On top of that,
> either Mayweather couldn't stop or Marquez was too
> brave for his own good. Either way, he took about 3
> or 4 rounds on unnecessary punishment from a bigger
> fighter in a fight he had no chance in hell of
> winning.
Hit--You sound like a proponent for open scorecards. You're basically saying, that if a fighter is at the receiving end and has no chance in hell of winning, it's okay to stop the fight. I disagree with that type of reasoning. Whatever happened to the guts, blood and glory? You and Buddy McGirt must be cousins.'L
In all fairness, I agree with the Gatti/Mayweather stoppage. Gatti (RIP) was taken too much punishment, that could have led to permanent damage. He wasn't able to fend off Mayweather. McGirt did the right thing in stopping the match but not in the Malignaggi/Hatton bout. He should have allowed the bout to continue and play itself out.
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Re: What do you think is next for Juan Manuel Marquez?
Sep 27, 2009 12:08 PM
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> It's the fighters over all decision if he wants to
> continue when it's between him and his corner. Buddy
> had no bizz stopping the Hatton fight-he was a
> fighter and he knows how it feels known you @least
> you went the full 12. This is a blood sport and no
> way should Nacho stopped the fight either.
>
> 2 fights that could've been stopped was Calzaghe vs
> s both Lacy and Jones-both of them got the shit beat
> out of em worse than what Floyd did 2 Marquez. Jones
> was a punching bag-you think the ref didn't want to
> stop it-you think his corner didn't want to stop
> it-yeah they did but Jones told them NO.
>
> You can break a fighters spirit by stopping a fight
> especially when they can still make something happen.
> If I recall Bute basically out boxed Andrade all
> l night untill getting caught @ the end. Floyd did
> dominate and I do admit I was like somebody stop
> it-but I don't think it would've been good.
>
> Marquez knew he couldn't win-but he feels like
> e @least he didn't stop me and if my career is over
> well it was a good career and I'm going to the HOF
> for sure. I watched the Hatton vs Paulie fight &
> even though he was dominated-the stoppage was
> bullshit if you ask me.
>
> Can yall imagine if the Corrales vs Castillo fight
> t was stopped b4 we got a chance 2 wittness what I
> thought was the best action fight ever-damn-I don't
> want to.
Chico hits like a mule homie. Malignaggi hits like a nat.
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Re: What do you think is next for Juan Manuel Marquez?
Sep 27, 2009 2:26 AM
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Another fight that could've been stopped sooner was the Pac vs Diaz fight-Diaz made Pac look unbeatable. Buddy did do the right thing when he stopped Gatti from receiving further punishment from Floyd. Floyd was beating on Gatti like it was personal or something-now that wasn't what anyone thought either-I mean I felt Floyd would win but damn-not like that. Floyd vs Marquez-hell naw-boxing is a blood sport and it's rough-I don't like all these quick stoppages and a fighter always has a chance-always.
Look @ big George 4man-Moore was whooping his ass every minute of every round plus 4man was old-but they let it go on and he landed his bread & butter-I know you'll say he had a punchers chance but does that mean let the man damn near get killed tryn 2 land it?
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Re: What do you think is next for Juan Manuel Marquez?
Sep 27, 2009 2:17 AM
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It's the fighters over all decision if he wants to continue when it's between him and his corner. Buddy had no bizz stopping the Hatton fight-he was a fighter and he knows how it feels known you @least you went the full 12. This is a blood sport and no way should Nacho stopped the fight either.
2 fights that could've been stopped was Calzaghe vs both Lacy and Jones-both of them got the shit beat out of em worse than what Floyd did 2 Marquez. Jones was a punching bag-you think the ref didn't want to stop it-you think his corner didn't want to stop it-yeah they did but Jones told them NO.
You can break a fighters spirit by stopping a fight especially when they can still make something happen. If I recall Bute basically out boxed Andrade all night untill getting caught @ the end. Floyd did dominate and I do admit I was like somebody stop it-but I don't think it would've been good.
Marquez knew he couldn't win-but he feels like @least he didn't stop me and if my career is over well it was a good career and I'm going to the HOF for sure. I watched the Hatton vs Paulie fight & even though he was dominated-the stoppage was bullshit if you ask me.
Can yall imagine if the Corrales vs Castillo fight was stopped b4 we got a chance 2 wittness what I thought was the best action fight ever-damn-I don't want to.
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Re: What do you think is next for Juan Manuel Marquez?
Sep 27, 2009 12:55 AM
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> Hit--When a fight is stopped due to a fighter's
> inability to defend himself and risking permanent
> damage, yes I'm all for it. That wasn't the case. Let
> me put it this way. Was Buddy McGirt thinking of
> Malignaggi's career at all, when he stopped the bout?
> I think not, by the way Paulie was protesting.
> Malignaggi could have ended up on ESPN or one of the
> local channels. You probably laugh but it's true.
> When a fighter is at crossroads, a stoppage can make
> e or break a career. . . The ref., ringside Dr. and
> the commissioner allowed the match to go on. McGirt
> made a wrong decision in stopping the bout; instead
> he should have waited it out. There were less than
> 2rds. left in the bout. It was a bad judgement call,
> that could have cost Malignaggi millions. Luckily,
> Malignaggi landed a bout with The Baby Bull.
Bruh, when a fight is as lopsided as Mayweather-Marquez or hatton-Malignaggi was, the "official" result is almost meaningless. Malignaggi can't punch. He is only gonna win a decision. He clearly wasn't gonna KO Hatton or win a decision. Why let him take unnecessary punishment? Marquez couldn't hurt Mayweather. And it got to the point where he couldn't defend himself. On top of that, either Mayweather couldn't stop or Marquez was too brave for his own good. Either way, he took about 3 or 4 rounds on unnecessary punishment from a bigger fighter in a fight he had no chance in hell of winning.
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Re: What do you think is next for Juan Manuel Marquez?
Sep 26, 2009 10:47 PM
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Retirement.... bottom line .. go home and be a dad.
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Re: What do you think is next for Juan Manuel Marquez?
Sep 25, 2009 10:16 PM
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> > Hit---Mayweather could have taken Marquez out
> but
> > didn't. A stoppage would have had
> implications.
> > Nacho wasn't going to stop it. JMM has too
> much
> > pride, besides it would hampered his
> marketability
> > for future high profile fights.
> >
> > What happened in the Malignaggi/Hatton bout? Do
> you
> > think it was a good stoppage?
> >
> > --
> > Edited by ShowDaBoxing at 09/22/2009 3:56 PM
> PDT
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> Show, I'm always for a trainer saving his fighter
> from unnecessary punishment when its obvious he's not
> going to win the fight. Malignaggi isn't gonna KO
> anyone. He wasn't close in the fight. So why not
> stop it?
Hit--When a fight is stopped due to a fighter's inability to defend himself and risking permanent damage, yes I'm all for it. That wasn't the case. Let me put it this way. Was Buddy McGirt thinking of Malignaggi's career at all, when he stopped the bout? I think not, by the way Paulie was protesting. Malignaggi could have ended up on ESPN or one of the local channels. You probably laugh but it's true. When a fighter is at crossroads, a stoppage can make or break a career. . . The ref., ringside Dr. and the commissioner allowed the match to go on. McGirt made a wrong decision in stopping the bout; instead he should have waited it out. There were less than 2rds. left in the bout. It was a bad judgement call, that could have cost Malignaggi millions. Luckily, Malignaggi landed a bout with The Baby Bull.
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Re: What do you think is next for Juan Manuel Marquez?
Sep 23, 2009 10:52 PM
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he should stop drinking piss and start drinking apple juice...like what spicy said, he should fight edwin valero
LOL!!! Or hope for a PacMan loss either to Cotto or Floyd, and then enter the ring, grab the mic from Max and challenge PacMan for a third fight.
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Re: What do you think is next for Juan Manuel Marquez?
Sep 23, 2009 7:45 PM
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he should stop drinking piss and start drinking apple juice...like what spicy said, he should fight edwin valero.
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Re: What do you think is next for Juan Manuel Marquez?
Sep 23, 2009 11:12 AM
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> Hit---Mayweather could have taken Marquez out but
> didn't. A stoppage would have had implications.
> Nacho wasn't going to stop it. JMM has too much
> pride, besides it would hampered his marketability
> for future high profile fights.
>
> What happened in the Malignaggi/Hatton bout? Do you
> think it was a good stoppage?
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> --
> Edited by ShowDaBoxing at 09/22/2009 3:56 PM PDT
Show, I'm always for a trainer saving his fighter from unnecessary punishment when its obvious he's not going to win the fight. Malignaggi isn't gonna KO anyone. He wasn't close in the fight. So why not stop it?
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Re: What do you think is next for Juan Manuel Marquez?
Sep 23, 2009 11:07 AM
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What do you think is next for Juan Manuel Marquez?
Fight Edwin Valero at 135lbs!
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Re: What do you think is next for Juan Manuel Marquez?
Sep 23, 2009 9:07 AM
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He should take a long break after that one. Then, i wouldnt mind seeing him take a crack at a title at 140. Khan in England would be a good bout for him. A decent pay day, a title in a 4th division, and some hype as a revenge bout for Barrera's loss to Khan. If he wins, and i think he would, then finish up with Hatton, if Pac/JMM cant be made.
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