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The reason I ask this question is because since day one with the Pacquiao De La Hoya fight people have been complaining about the big size difference, there's a post on the boards to boycott the fight, the Pavlik Hopkins fight showed what a weight/size difference can do to a great fighter who is smaller, and even on yahoo there's an article about Pacquiao entitled Wake up-call. Do you think Manny can handle this or is it a big mistake?
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Re: How worried are you for Pacquiao's health?
Dec 22, 2008 12:13 AM
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This issue should be dead!! Pacquio beat Oscar, point blank. His win doesn't make him better than Floyd and at the same time the way Floyd beat Oscar doesn't make him worst. They have different styles of fighting and if you're a true boxing fan then you know that just because fighter A beat fighter B and A lost to C it doesn't mean C can beat B!! Look at Taylor/Hopkins/Pavlik!!! I'm a Mayweather fan but I'm looking at facts and that's it. Who would win between them 2 I don't know. I would root for Floyd but It's hard to say because so much play a factor in the fight. If we take the Floyd that beat Hatto and put him in the ring with Manny then I like his odds. His style of fighting while backing up, using his speed to counter and his defense look pretty good. It's what has kept him the P4P best fighter. I've liked Manny since him and Barerra fought. I never thought he would even be considered to fight Oscar or Mayweather. This would be a great fight and if it were to happen it would more than likely be the fight of the year.
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Re: How worried are you for Pacquiao's health?
Dec 16, 2008 12:38 PM
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I AM VERY WORRIED FOR PACMANS HEALTH...I MEAN BY THE LOOK OF 24/7 IF BU BOY KEEPS COOKING, PACMAN WILL END UP WITH HEARD DISEASE EASY BY AGE 35. DEEP FRIED SALMON WHAT A TREAT!!!!
"200 BUCKS....EASY MONEY"!!!!!
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Re: How worried are you for Pacquiao's health?
Dec 9, 2008 8:54 AM
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And left hook is not worth a million bucks isn't it?
Same as "Straight right" were many people believed Kelly Pavlik could end B-Hop with one right hand punch!
And Ruiz to KO Roy...
Actually both Oscar, Pavlik, Ruiz could end the fight via KO if they have landed their punches cleanly. That is if they have! Where in, they really cant..
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Guys were calling Oscar a gay coz he fights a small Pacquiao, Now Guys were Making Excuses for Oscar to uplift someone else's status over Pacman!
What a BS!
You guys need "head transplant"!
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Re: How worried are you for Pacquiao's health?
Dec 9, 2008 3:26 AM
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And left hook is not worth a million bucks isn't it?
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Re: How worried are you for Pacquiao's health?
Dec 9, 2008 3:23 AM
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> The moral of this fight should be: Never bet on
> somebody to win if all they have going for them is a
> good left hook.
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> COME ON SAY SOMETHING PUNK!
Got your point, left hook is not enough compare to speed and skills.
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Re: How worried are you for Pacquiao's health?
Dec 7, 2008 10:10 PM
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The moral of this fight should be: Never bet on somebody to win if all they have going for them is a good left hook.
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Re: How worried are you for Pacquiao's health?
Dec 7, 2008 10:05 PM
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LOL @ this topic now. 
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Re: How worried are you for Pacquiao's health?
Dec 7, 2008 10:01 PM
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> Is there any more better excuse to take the credits
> away from Pacquiao? The fact is Manny and Oscar had
> fought to where Oscar is more comfortable and close
> or near to his division! COME ON! Manny had only
> fought at 135 once! And JUMPED at Welterweight to
> fight at 147!
> Have even know/heard any fighter who have started at
> 106 that have won a fight against any or at least
> unknown boxer at 147? Oscar is not unknown!....
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That's why next time be careful challenging Pacman again.
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Re: How worried are you for Pacquiao's health?
Dec 7, 2008 9:15 PM
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Look, I'm not taking anything away from Pacman as he is awesome, ......... but surely even the biggest Pacquiao fan could see that De La Hoya just didn't turn up.
He virtually never threw a punch and offered nothing in this fight.
Yes, we witnessed a great achievement, ..... Pacquiao had the minerals to step up and challenge (and destroy) the bigger man, ...... but come on, Oscar was d-r-a-i-n-e-d to the extent he was inoperable ................ he just couldn't operate and almost got killed.
I'm just calling it how I saw it, and to me, this doesn't shed a great deal of light on how Manny would fair against other 147 lb'ers, or even at 140 ....
Is there any more better excuse to take the credits away from Pacquiao? The fact is Manny and Oscar had fought to where Oscar is more comfortable and close or near to his division! COME ON! Manny had only fought at 135 once! And JUMPED at Welterweight to fight at 147!
Have even know/heard any fighter who have started at 106 that have won a fight against any or at least unknown boxer at 147? Oscar is not unknown!....
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Guys were calling Oscar a gay coz he fights a small Pacquiao, Now Guys were Making Excuses for Oscar to uplift Floyd Mayweather's status over Pacman!
What a BS!
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Edited by REALspicy at 12/07/2008 6:16 PM PST
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Re: How worried are you for Pacquiao's health?
Dec 7, 2008 6:18 PM
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> > > > pacquiao by ko
> > > >
> > > > No way in hell my man. Oscar don't
> > > > get KO'd. And he don't cut
> > > > either. Manny needs to think
> > > > about winning
> > > > this one on points.
> > >
> > > Gun, do you mean Oscar hadn't been
> > > KO'd? Didn't you see him lying on
> > > the canvas in great pain after
> > > BHOP hit him on the body?
> > > Check it out in Youtube.
> >
> >
> > That was a liver punch and yeah I did see it.
> > But that was a rarity and not typical.
> > I don't think Manny has the goods to
> > pull that off.
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> So Gun, did I prove you're wrong?
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Yeah I think so. 
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Re: How worried are you for Pacquiao's health?
Dec 7, 2008 6:06 PM
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> > > Here are some stats reposted from one
> > > of tszyunami's posts:
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> > > Weighty matters
> > >
> > > Yearly breakdown of fighters' weights
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> > > Year De La Hoya Pacquiao Differential
> > > 1995.......135...........108...........27
> > > 1996.......140...........113...........27
> > > 1997.......145...........113...........32
> > > 1998.......147...........113...........34
> > > 1999.......147...........116...........31
> > > 2000.......147...........120...........27
> > > 2001.......154...........121...........33
> > > 2002.......154...........121...........33
> > > 2003.......154...........124...........30
> > > 2004.......158...........125...........33
> > > 2005........N/A..........130...........N/A
> > > 2006.......153...........129...........24
> > > 2007.......154...........129...........25
> > > 2008.......150...........132...........18
> > >
> > > I think that spells: Pacquiao gets
> > > Mollywopped upon the first De La Hoya
> > > left hook that lands.
> >
Yep, that's me. I'm three for three now.
And if I say that the PPV is a bad buy, it's
probably a good buy.
That's why I'm wearing the signature:
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Re: How worried are you for Pacquiao's health?
Dec 7, 2008 4:57 PM
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Look, I'm not taking anything away from Pacman as he is awesome, ......... but surely even the biggest Pacquiao fan could see that De La Hoya just didn't turn up.
He virtually never threw a punch and offered nothing in this fight.
Yes, we witnessed a great achievement, ..... Pacquiao had the minerals to step up and challenge (and destroy) the bigger man, ...... but come on, Oscar was d-r-a-i-n-e-d to the extent he was inoperable ................ he just couldn't operate and almost got killed.
I'm just calling it how I saw it, and to me, this doesn't shed a great deal of light on how Manny would fair against other 147 lb'ers, or even at 140 ....
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Re: How worried are you for Pacquiao's health?
Dec 7, 2008 4:29 PM
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> > Dont judge the book by its cover...
> > Its like giving money to a person looked and
> dressed
> > like a beggar, then the beggar suddenly jumps to
> his
> > LIMO escorted by his body guards...
> >
> > --
> > Guys were calling Oscar a gay coz he fights a
> small
> > Pacquiao, Now Guys were Making Excuses for Oscar
> to
> > uplift Floyd Mayweather's status over Pacman!
> >
> > What a BS!
> > ________________
> > EXCUSES were thrown just to disbelief Manny's
> > greatness! Yeah Floyd Mayweather is still
> better, or
> > may is SAY BITTER! Bitter fans!
> >
> > ________________________
> > Beliefs not only affect judgments and behavior,
> but
> > can even distort what we see!!!!
>
> ..lol..there are actually members here that were
> posting such things like this..
>
> ..Pacquiao is no where near Mayweather's league
> and Manny versus Floyd would be a mismatch, a
> slaughter...yadda, yaddda, yadd...
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>
>
> ..and those are the same person who don't know
> anything about boxing AND also stated that
> Manny/Oscar would be a mismatch and predicted that
> Oscar will KO Manny.....
>
> ...talk about not knowing anything about boxing.
Yes, you're right! Like this one ignorant prediction before the fight...
Kevin Iole, Yahoo.com: De La Hoya TKO
> 6. The reason I like Oscar is because size in the
> fight is such a big issue. Manny has fought 75 per
> cent of his fights at 122 or less. Oscar has held a
> middleweight title. Oscar is slow and not as skilled
> as Manny is, but I just believe when they're in there
> throwing punches, Manny is not going to be able to
> take that left hook. Sooner or later Oscar is going
> to be able to land it. Oscar has a great chin, so I
> know he's going to be able to take Manny's shots.
Never in his sports articles a favorable comment for Manny.
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Re: How worried are you for Pacquiao's health?
Dec 7, 2008 11:12 AM
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> Dont judge the book by its cover...
> Its like giving money to a person looked and dressed
> like a beggar, then the beggar suddenly jumps to his
> LIMO escorted by his body guards...
>
> --
> Guys were calling Oscar a gay coz he fights a small
> Pacquiao, Now Guys were Making Excuses for Oscar to
> uplift Floyd Mayweather's status over Pacman!
>
> What a BS!
> ________________
> EXCUSES were thrown just to disbelief Manny's
> greatness! Yeah Floyd Mayweather is still better, or
> may is SAY BITTER! Bitter fans!
>
> ________________________
> Beliefs not only affect judgments and behavior, but
> can even distort what we see!!!!
..lol..there are actually members here that were posting such things like this..
..Pacquiao is no where near Mayweather's league and Manny versus Floyd would be a mismatch, a slaughter...yadda, yaddda, yadd...
..and those are the same person who don't know anything about boxing AND also stated that Manny/Oscar would be a mismatch and predicted that Oscar will KO Manny.....
...talk about not knowing anything about boxing.
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Re: How worried are you for Pacquiao's health?
Dec 7, 2008 9:11 AM
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Dont judge the book by its cover...
Its like giving money to a person looked and dressed like a beggar, then the beggar suddenly jumps to his LIMO escorted by his body guards...
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Guys were calling Oscar a gay coz he fights a small Pacquiao, Now Guys were Making Excuses for Oscar to uplift Floyd Mayweather's status over Pacman!
What a BS!
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EXCUSES were thrown just to disbelief Manny's greatness! Yeah Floyd Mayweather is still better, or may is SAY BITTER! Bitter fans!
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