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WHY ALEXIS ARGUELLO WAS THE GREATEST 130 POUNDER EVER...

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This is a sad day. May God rest the soul of Alexis Arguello.

THE GREAT ARGUELLO ;


On November 18, 1921 Johnny Dundee won on a fifth round disqualification over George " KO " Chaney to become the first recognized champion of the junior lightweight division.He would lose and then regain the title in a pair of 1923 fifteen rounders against Jack Bernstein. Dundee would lose the title for good in 1924 via a ten round points loss to Steve " Kid " Sullivan. In 1925 Sullivan would lose the title to Mike Ballerino. Later that year Ballerino would be stopped by Tod Morgan.

Morgan would reign for four years before he was halted in two rounds by Benny Bass. In the summer of 1931 Bass would lose the title to the talented Kid Chocolate.In 1933 Frankie Klick stopped the " Kid ". It would be sixteen years before the title would resurface again. On December 6, 1949 in the grand city of Cleveland, Ohio the great Sandy Saddler outscored the slick Orlando Zulueta for the " vacant " title.

It would be nearly a decade before a fight for the " vacant " title would take place. On July 20, 1959 Harold Gomes outscored Paul Jorgensen ane the 130 pound division has been with us ever since. Gomes would lose the title in 1960 to a wonderful fighting machine from the Philippines named Flash Elorde. Flash would go on to establish himself as one of the best little fighters of that time period. Elorde would finally lose the title in 1967 to Japan's Yoshiaki Numata. Later that year Numata would surrender the title to fellow countryman Hiroshi Kobayashi.

A little over a year later the fledging World Boxing Council decided that they would recognize the winner of a bout between Rene Barrientos and the dangerous Ruben Navarro which was won by Barrientos. In 1970 Numata would " regain " the crown with a points win over Barrientos. Over a year later Kobayashi would lose the " real " title to rugged Alfredo Marcano. A few months later Numata would be dethroned by Ricardo Arrendondo.

To try to keep up the the exchanging of belts between the WBA, WBC and later IBF would be a waste of space. The division was graced by some fine fighters. There was the power punching Ben Villaflor, the slick stylist Sammy Serrano and the great Alfredo Escalera.On January 28, 1978 the game Escalera would relinquish his title to possibly the greatest 130 pounder of all time. The " Explosive Thin Man " himself; Alexis Arguello.

Why is Arguello a good choice as the best 130 pounder ever ? Rafael " Bazooka " Limon, Boza Edwards, Rolando Navarette and Bobby Chacon were all defeated by Alexis while he held the crown.All four would gain title recognition after Alexis moved up go after the lightweight title.That is how dominant Alexis was at 130.

The 1980's produced some fine titleholders such as Roger Mayweather, Hector Camacho, Julio Cesar Chavez, Rocky Lockridge, Azumah Nelson, Brian Mitchell and the popular Tony " Tiger " Lopez.

The 1990's gave us Genero Hernandez, Gabe Ruelas, Jesse James Leija, Arturo Gatti, Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Diego Corrales. The new millinium has produced Acelino Frietas and Joel Casamayor for starters. Still no one with the possible exception of Flash Elorde dominated the weight class like Alexis Arguello, the greatest junior lightweight of all time !

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Last Post Jul 3, 2009 8:22 AM by: GoldenGluvs
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Re: WHY ALEXIS ARGUELLO WAS THE GREATEST 130 POUNDER EVER...

Jul 2, 2009 11:37 AM
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> > Alexis Arguello KOs Kevin Rooney
> >
> >

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGIUQ1mcZ_U&feature=rel
>

> > ated
>
> Was that the same Kevin Rooney that trained Mike
> Tyson?


yes, it was. Rooney was a decent fighter.

I wonder if what Arguello hit him with there was a "7", or a "5"?
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Jul 2, 2009 11:35 AM
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> Alexis Arguello KOs Kevin Rooney
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGIUQ1mcZ_U&feature=rel
> ated


Was that the same Kevin Rooney that trained Mike Tyson?
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Jul 2, 2009 11:19 AM
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Alexis Arguello KOs Kevin Rooney

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGIUQ1mcZ_U&feature=related

Alexis in an interview on the Mancini fight

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaXa912AtzI&feature=related

That's why everybody liked Arguello

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Edited by JimEarl at 07/02/2009 8:27 AM PDT
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Jul 2, 2009 11:17 AM
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"Kevin Rooney probably thinks so.
One right hand and it was night night "


If you were to put out a video of boxing instruction, & you wanted to show how to throw a right hand....that may be the one you go with. It was perfection.
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Jul 2, 2009 11:16 AM
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The best fighter I've seen at 130 is Floyd.

As for Arguello the one victory that always sticks out for me is the KO of Ruben Olivarez, a fight in which Olivarez gave him fits until he finally took him out.

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Jul 2, 2009 11:13 AM
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>
> I've heard that Arguello was a tremendous puncher.
> Did he hit harder than "Chico" Corrales at 130?


Kevin Rooney probably thinks so.
One right hand and it was night night

I used to have Arguello / Rooney up on my
youtube site as well as Arguello / Mancini
and Arguello / Pryor 1

First time I ever saw him was the Alfredo Escalera
fight...I said "Man this guy knows how to throw it all"
And all with leverage. That's the guy that Kelly Pavlik
should watch. He was slow of foot because he kept
those heels planted for power shots.

And he fought EVERYBODY
Just like Duran did.

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Jul 2, 2009 11:11 AM
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> > > So I assume that Arguello beats Mayweather
> at
> > 130.
> >
> > Not necessarily. Arguello had trouble with
> > h boxers....& we know how great Floyd was in

> that
> > category.
> >
> > But, Arguello has the better resume at 130.

>
> I've heard that Arguello was a tremendous puncher.
> Did he hit harder than "Chico" Corrales at 130?



Power-wise, they were comparable. The Corrales left hook was as deadly as any one Arguello punch. But, Arguello could do damage with every punch in the book. While Chico's right hand packed some heat, he didn't have Arguello's uppercuts, & certainly did not go to the body like Arguello did.

Arguello is easily one of the best offensive fighters in history.

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Jul 2, 2009 11:06 AM
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> > So I assume that Arguello beats Mayweather at
> 130.
>
> Not necessarily. Arguello had trouble with
> h boxers....& we know how great Floyd was in that
> category.
>
> But, Arguello has the better resume at 130.


I've heard that Arguello was a tremendous puncher. Did he hit harder than "Chico" Corrales at 130?
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Jul 2, 2009 11:05 AM
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It is slow today.

Everybody from the late '70s & early '80s just LIKED Alexis.

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> So I assume that Arguello beats Mayweather at 130.

Not necessarily. Arguello had trouble with boxers....& we know how great Floyd was in that category.

But, Arguello has the better resume at 130.
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Jul 2, 2009 10:50 AM
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So I assume that Arguello beats Mayweather at 130.
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Jul 2, 2009 9:42 AM
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Alexis Arguello was awesome at 130lbs. Too bad that he and Salvador Sanchez or Julio Cesar Chavez didn't get a chance to meet in the ring. As far as I'm concerned, Alexis Arguello was the greatest at 130lbs and he will be missed.
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Yes, he was the greatest 130lber in histoy, IMO.
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NOTE;

This is a sad day. May God rest the soul of Alexis Arguello.

THE GREAT ARGUELLO ;


On November 18, 1921 Johnny Dundee won on a fifth round disqualification over George " KO " Chaney to become the first recognized champion of the junior lightweight division.He would lose and then regain the title in a pair of 1923 fifteen rounders against Jack Bernstein. Dundee would lose the title for good in 1924 via a ten round points loss to Steve " Kid " Sullivan. In 1925 Sullivan would lose the title to Mike Ballerino. Later that year Ballerino would be stopped by Tod Morgan.

Morgan would reign for four years before he was halted in two rounds by Benny Bass. In the summer of 1931 Bass would lose the title to the talented Kid Chocolate.In 1933 Frankie Klick stopped the " Kid ". It would be sixteen years before the title would resurface again. On December 6, 1949 in the grand city of Cleveland, Ohio the great Sandy Saddler outscored the slick Orlando Zulueta for the " vacant " title.

It would be nearly a decade before a fight for the " vacant " title would take place. On July 20, 1959 Harold Gomes outscored Paul Jorgensen ane the 130 pound division has been with us ever since. Gomes would lose the title in 1960 to a wonderful fighting machine from the Philippines named Flash Elorde. Flash would go on to establish himself as one of the best little fighters of that time period. Elorde would finally lose the title in 1967 to Japan's Yoshiaki Numata. Later that year Numata would surrender the title to fellow countryman Hiroshi Kobayashi.

A little over a year later the fledging World Boxing Council decided that they would recognize the winner of a bout between Rene Barrientos and the dangerous Ruben Navarro which was won by Barrientos. In 1970 Numata would " regain " the crown with a points win over Barrientos. Over a year later Kobayashi would lose the " real " title to rugged Alfredo Marcano. A few months later Numata would be dethroned by Ricardo Arrendondo.

To try to keep up the the exchanging of belts between the WBA, WBC and later IBF would be a waste of space. The division was graced by some fine fighters. There was the power punching Ben Villaflor, the slick stylist Sammy Serrano and the great Alfredo Escalera.On January 28, 1978 the game Escalera would relinquish his title to possibly the greatest 130 pounder of all time. The " Explosive Thin Man " himself; Alexis Arguello.

Why is Arguello a good choice as the best 130 pounder ever ? Rafael " Bazooka " Limon, Boza Edwards, Rolando Navarette and Bobby Chacon were all defeated by Alexis while he held the crown.All four would gain title recognition after Alexis moved up go after the lightweight title.That is how dominant Alexis was at 130.

The 1980's produced some fine titleholders such as Roger Mayweather, Hector Camacho, Julio Cesar Chavez, Rocky Lockridge, Azumah Nelson, Brian Mitchell and the popular Tony " Tiger " Lopez.

The 1990's gave us Genero Hernandez, Gabe Ruelas, Jesse James Leija, Arturo Gatti, Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Diego Corrales. The new millinium has produced Acelino Frietas and Joel Casamayor for starters. Still no one with the possible exception of Flash Elorde dominated the weight class like Alexis Arguello, the greatest junior lightweight of all time !

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