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I thought it was an amazing documentary and really enjoyed it. jst want to see what you guys thought of it....
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Re: Assault in the ring!!!
Aug 5, 2009 2:14 PM
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Judging from what you've seen in the Clottey fight, do you think Cotto is a damaged fighter? He didn't look like himself in the Clottey fight during the last couple of rounds and although he did win the later rounds, his lack of utilizing the jab or throwing it often was pretty much non existent. He sometimes went long stretches without throwing a punch and was there for the taking, Clottey just didn't oblige him.
Could the Margs fight have psycologically screwed him kinda like how Vargas was when Trinidad ripped him up back in 2000? Cotto just doesn't seem the same. I know this is about the Panama Lewis scandal. But that story would've never been reintroduced to the public if they didn't find the plaster in Margs' gloves and have the majority of boxing fans questioning his victory over Cotto.
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Re: Assault in the ring!!!
Aug 5, 2009 1:21 PM
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I've posted this here before and I might sound like a broken record now but if anyone wants a great look at the behind the scenes corruption and politics of boxing read the book The Black Lights by Thomas Hauser.>>>
I have that book and agree that its a good read.
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Re: Assault in the ring!!!
Aug 5, 2009 12:32 PM
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> The cream always rises to the top!
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> But then again, so does scum! Lewis is one of the
> biggest SCUM on earth! He kept lying to Resto about
> how he is going to take care of him when he makes
> it.
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> All the jewelry says he can give something to Resto
> now but he don't.
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> LEWIS IS A SCUM, HE CHEATED AGAINST ARGUELLO TOO.
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> I HOPE HE DIES A PAINFUL DEATH, FUCKING SCUM!
Sad little man.
That Napoleon Syndrome is whooping your ass as of late - huh ?
What's wrong munchkin - Lose another 'blonde' to one of the tall guys ? 
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Re: Assault in the ring!!!
Aug 5, 2009 12:06 PM
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> i thought this was a really interesting documentary
> .... panama lewis sounded everything out of his mouth
> was a lie i wish resto wouldve let him hear it. that
> guy is a cheating lying scumbag who makes don king
> look honest. its a shame that two very good fighters
> had to suffer becasue he decided that he had the
> right to take advantage of them in order to make
> illegal money.. overall it was interesting and its
> sheds some light on what goes on behind the scenes in
> boxing
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> "Great spirits have always found violent opposition
> from mediocrities." -Albert Einstein
Yeah true, he told Resto to call him daddy. Classic !
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Re: Assault in the ring!!!
Aug 5, 2009 9:51 AM
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i thought this was a really interesting documentary .... panama lewis sounded everything out of his mouth was a lie i wish resto wouldve let him hear it. that guy is a cheating lying scumbag who makes don king look honest. its a shame that two very good fighters had to suffer becasue he decided that he had the right to take advantage of them in order to make illegal money.. overall it was interesting and its sheds some light on what goes on behind the scenes in boxing
I've posted this here before and I might sound like a broken record now but if anyone wants a great look at the behind the scenes corruption and politics of boxing read the book The Black Lights by Thomas Hauser. The book read very easily and very few writers have had more acces to the sport. Thomas Hauser has several books on boxing, including Muhammad Ali's official biography, but this one is my favorite. It deals a lot with Don King and Bob Arum and how they control the entire sport from fighters to promoters to commisioners and even the sanctioning bodies. Like I have said on here in the past, it's an easy read and will change your view of the sport.
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Re: Assault in the ring!!!
Aug 4, 2009 9:39 PM
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i thought this was a really interesting documentary .... panama lewis sounded everything out of his mouth was a lie i wish resto wouldve let him hear it. that guy is a cheating lying scumbag who makes don king look honest. its a shame that two very good fighters had to suffer becasue he decided that he had the right to take advantage of them in order to make illegal money.. overall it was interesting and its sheds some light on what goes on behind the scenes in boxing
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Re: Assault in the ring!!!
Aug 4, 2009 8:50 PM
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I thought it was really sad how he lost everything and how it all played out. panama lewis shouldnt even be allowed to look at boxing in anyway. Resto to me you can tell he has alot of remorse and i dont think he should suffer over it his whole life. I know alot of people are gonna put their "holier than thou" faces on about it but the bottom line is people make mistakes and i dont think its fair to suffer his whole life over it.
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Aug 4, 2009 8:20 PM
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> Just a question, do you know if asthma medication
> has an effect on a boxer getting hit ?
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> Yeah, it does! When the other fighter is dead tired
> and sucking wind in a late round battle and suddenly
> Pryor is totally rejuvenated and full of energy!
> Pryor was dead tired in the round before and
> d suddenly exploded after drinking from the mixed
> bottle. Now having heard from Resto that he put the
> pills in there, it all seems pretty obvious what
> transpired.
These types of things cannot be ignored when we start labeling guys ALL TIME GREATS ! That's a cheat to me, horrible. Boxing is tough enough.
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Aug 4, 2009 8:00 PM
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Just a question, do you know if asthma medication has an effect on a boxer getting hit ?
Yeah, it does! When the other fighter is dead tired and sucking wind in a late round battle and suddenly Pryor is totally rejuvenated and full of energy! Pryor was dead tired in the round before and suddenly exploded after drinking from the mixed bottle. Now having heard from Resto that he put the pills in there, it all seems pretty obvious what transpired.
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Re: Assault in the ring!!!
Aug 4, 2009 2:55 AM
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> Quite the interesting documentary, Assault In The
> Ring. I thought perhaps work on it had begun only
> recently because of the Margarcheato Incident against
> Mosley, but obviously it was around the time of
> Cotto-Judah, as Eric Drath showed events surrounding
> that fight in the beginning. Two interesting issues
> that arose from the documentary: Resto's admission
> that his handwraps for the Collins fight were made of
> cast material, and Resto's testimony that Panama
> Lewis put a pill form of bronchodilators in his water
> bottle to give him a oxygen boost during the fight. I
> think from this we can surmise what was in Aaron
> Pryor's infamous "mixed" water bottle less than a
> year before. The documentary is a must-see for boxing
> fans, and would likely appeal to a wider audience
> that didn't especially hold boxing dear in their
> heart. In the end, one can draw their own
> conclusions, and the one I reached was that Panama
> Lewis took the padding out of Resto's gloves himself
> in the bathroom before the fight, and instructed
> assistant trainer and cornerman Artie Curley (now
> deceased) to apply the illegal hand wraps. Resto knew
> at the time the gloves weren't right, and now is
> tortured by not having done anything about it at the
> time in his greed to advance his career, when he
> knows Billy Collins Jr. basically ended his life more
> or less because of what was done to him.
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> Edited by tszyunami at 08/03/2009 10:26 PM PDT
Just a question, do you know if asthma medication has an effect on a boxer getting hit ?
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Aug 4, 2009 1:25 AM
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My apologies to Lee Black for using his name instead of Artie Curley, as being the man who rapped Luis Resto's hands for his fight with Billy Collins Jr.
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Re: Assault in the ring!!!
Aug 4, 2009 1:18 AM
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The cream always rises to the top!
But then again, so does scum! Lewis is one of the biggest SCUM on earth! He kept lying to Resto about how he is going to take care of him when he makes it.
All the jewelry says he can give something to Resto now but he don't.
LEWIS IS A SCUM, HE CHEATED AGAINST ARGUELLO TOO.
I HOPE HE DIES A PAINFUL DEATH, FUCKING SCUM!
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Re: Assault in the ring!!!
Aug 3, 2009 9:46 PM
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> I watched it. It was okay, nothing really
> groundbreaking. Everyone already knew that Panama
> Lewis took out the pads and put a cast on Resto's
> knuckles. I thought it was interesting to hear Resto
> admit that Lewis mixed asthma medication in his water
> bottles. Otherwise, I thought it was a pretty ho-hum
> documentary. Kinda sad that Resto lost everything
> yet Lewis still trains fighters at a championship
> level. I thought it was funny that they had to
> translate Resto and Lewis into subtitles, both those
> guys have some really obvious brain damage.
>
> It was really annoying how Lewis says "understand"
> in every sentence.
English was neither's first language, coupled with the fact that both tended to mumble. They would've had to use subtitles had Floyd Mayweather Sr. and Enzo Calzaghe been in it as well. 
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Aug 3, 2009 9:43 PM
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Quite the interesting documentary, Assault In The Ring. I thought perhaps work on it had begun only recently because of the Margarcheato Incident against Mosley, but obviously it was around the time of Cotto-Judah, as Eric Drath showed events surrounding that fight in the beginning. Two interesting issues that arose from the documentary: Resto's admission that his handwraps for the Collins fight were made of cast material, and Resto's testimony that Panama Lewis put a pill form of bronchodilators in his water bottle to give him a oxygen boost during the fight. I think from this we can surmise what was in Aaron Pryor's infamous "mixed" water bottle less than a year before. The documentary is a must-see for boxing fans, and would likely appeal to a wider audience that didn't especially hold boxing dear in their heart. In the end, one can draw their own conclusions, and the one I reached was that Panama Lewis took the padding out of Resto's gloves himself in the bathroom before the fight, and instructed assistant trainer and cornerman Artie Curley (now deceased) to apply the illegal hand wraps. Resto knew at the time the gloves weren't right, and now is tortured by not having done anything about it at the time in his greed to advance his career, when he knows Billy Collins Jr. basically ended his life more or less because of what was done to him.
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Re: Assault in the ring!!!
Aug 3, 2009 8:55 PM
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This suck so hard. An hour & half suck big time. I thought the injuries killed him not a car accident. Waste of time. The trailer of this was better.
Crackheads have alot of stories. Please dont make anymore of these. This would of been just a segment on dateline or something seriously.
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