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Joe is getting off way too cheaply with the media.
Floyd is getting hammered for refusing to fight less than the current best. Is the media biased against Floyd and too lenient with Joe ? What do you guys think ?
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Re: Boxing media has double standards for Mayweather and Calazaghe ?
Jun 11, 2009 4:02 PM
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Personally, I don't criticize either. Mayweather beat the reigning lineal champ in four divisions. Calzage is probably the most accomplished super middleweight of all-time, and validated himself as an all-time great by stepping up and beating another all-time great for the light heavyweight title. Both were great fighters that didn't particualry have crowd pleasing styles. Both fought and beat the best throughout their careers. I have no beef with either.
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Re: Boxing media has double standards for Mayweather and Calazaghe ?
Jun 11, 2009 3:43 PM
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::::::::::::::::::::::::> When he gets beat, depending on how it goes and there
> is a rematch with whomever, the sales and hype get
> ramped up!!! When he retires again for good, we can
> only hope for another cash cow, whom I do not
> currently see on the horizon...
Geez... at 6' 6 1/2", he's pretty easy to see on the horizon. (See Jack feeling around the room for pieces of his exploded head.)  ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
His career would not have lasted as long, but the HULKING Wlad KOing all bums would have been a sight to see...
To make the BHOF @ this present really boring pace, he has to remain champion for the next decade or so imo...
No chance of a 'second coming'... 
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Re: Boxing media has double standards for Mayweather and Calazaghe ?
Jun 11, 2009 3:37 PM
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> When he gets beat, depending on how it goes and there
> is a rematch with whomever, the sales and hype get
> ramped up!!! When he retires again for good, we can
> only hope for another cash cow, whom I do not
> currently see on the horizon...
Geez... at 6' 6 1/2", he's pretty easy to see on the horizon. (See Jack feeling around the room for pieces of his exploded head.)
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Re: Boxing media has double standards for Mayweather and Calazaghe ?
Jun 11, 2009 10:36 AM
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Blah, blah, blah is all any of us have to say...
All of the criticism, accolades, hate & love thrown @ Mayweather is aiding the sport of boxing, period!
Comparisons? Who cares?
Just make the fight for Manny Pacquaio if Floyd gets past Juan Manuel Marquez, then Cotto / Mosley / Ortiz etc; If folks wanna go on about ducking, size, weight class, blah, blah, blah, so be it but in continues to add to "Money's" purse...
When he gets beat, depending on how it goes and there is a rematch with whomever, the sales and hype get ramped up!!! When he retires again for good, we can only hope for another cash cow, whom I do not currently see on the horizon...
The longer he stays in the sport, the more money gets made by all...
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Re: Boxing media has double standards for Mayweather and Calazaghe ?
Jun 11, 2009 10:20 AM
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> article on boxingtalk about the double standard.
> First off let me say I think boxingtalk is kind of
> bias but i do agree with the view points of the
> article.
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> http://boxingtalk.com/pag/article.php?aid=17852
The article isn't bad ... though the rantings regarding the relative merits of the Oscar and Ricky wins is just silly ... it's not like Oscar was forced to starve himself - he chose the fight, and Oscar makes the terms of any fight he chooses, he just screwed up his training regiment and never gave himself a chance, plus he got old ... the Ricky argument is metaphysical baloney, and yes, knocking a man out cold inside of 6 minutes is more impressive than a 10th round stop at a suboptimal weight ... sorry, it just is
There IS a double standard, given that Floyd is the top draw in the sport and such ... he is expected to be a kingmaker while Pacquaio is given a little more credit given he has come up from a lower weight etc etc etc ... Floyd sometimes does not get credit for wins because he is by definition favored in every fight he makes.
That said, before he hit the land of 140, he fought and beat virtually everybody who he had to on his way up the scale, everyone who mattered etc ... after 140 his path has been different ...
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Re: Boxing media has double standards for Mayweather and Calazaghe ?
Jun 11, 2009 9:57 AM
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article on boxingtalk about the double standard. First off let me say I think boxingtalk is kind of bias but i do agree with the view points of the article.
http://boxingtalk.com/pag/article.php?aid=17852
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Re: Boxing media has double standards for Mayweather and Calazaghe ?
May 6, 2009 8:38 PM
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For all the Euros out there, constantly harping on Americans not giving their homeboys their due.....
If we aren't interested, we aren't interested. You cannot browbeat us into finding a lot of your guys compelling.
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Re: Boxing media has double standards for Mayweather and Calazaghe ?
May 6, 2009 8:32 PM
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Finally the big dogs arrive !
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Re: Boxing media has double standards for Mayweather and Calazaghe ?
May 6, 2009 8:27 PM
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Look Calzaghe is a hell of a fighter with an impressive record but he's has not fought in my view world class opponents at there best. When he fought B-Hop he was 43 clearly not in his prime, and RJJ was a 39 yr old KO worn fighter. For Calzaghe to be reconized as a all time great in America he's going to have to beat a young gun that's in his prime, Chad Dawson would be that young gun but Calzaghe would have to walk through fire to do so and if that were to happen then he'd get that labal as an all-time great.
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Re: Boxing media has double standards for Mayweather and Calazaghe ?
May 6, 2009 8:26 PM
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something like the Royal family.....don't give a shit about them either !..............
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Re: Boxing media has double standards for Mayweather and Calazaghe ?
May 6, 2009 7:50 PM
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walesforever.....
Look, Joe C. finished his career very impressively, & is obviously a fantastic fighter- better than we Americans thought.
But, we still don't really give a shit about him. Can't help it- WE JUST DON'T CARE.
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Re: Boxing media has double standards for Mayweather and Calazaghe ?
May 6, 2009 7:33 PM
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Yes that's what we agree on. I don't knock Joe but he made these statements that I said. He knew the best competition was in USA but he could make a good living at home. After making the money he wants the american fight fan's heart, that's what he doesn't have. We saw too many talented fighter come and Joe to put him on a pedastal.
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Re: Boxing media has double standards for Mayweather and Calazaghe ?
May 6, 2009 7:09 PM
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who? benn had been finished by eubank again and calzaghe beat eubank first man to ever knock him down too. he was a great champion.
as for double standards yes they are in favour of pretty boy. he has had a great career but he has chosen to retire and unretire but can afford to do what he likes as he not only has ability but the father with the knowledge and the money to get some fights. also being stateside is far more financially viable than being in little old wales
the media criticism of pretty boy is just a smokescreen he uses to sell more tickets. he aint an attacking flair fighter but hes better at selling a fight than calzaghe who I admit is far too complacent in that regard. he is old school more like a joe louis in promoting he just knows he is a class act and cant be bothered to do the gutter talk just to sell tickets. mind you choosing setanta was a farcical decision. that will have lost him far more than the £2 million frank warren is being forced to pay him
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Re: Boxing media has double standards for Mayweather and Calazaghe ?
May 6, 2009 4:27 PM
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Joe held a fringe title and fought cab drivers. Beat Eubank,Kessler,Lacy........a good run for Joe. Did not fight Benn, Julian Jackson, Gerald McClellan, McCallum.....Don't show how dumb you are. I know what I am talking about. Notice you are the only one arguing Joe's legacy..There is none, he admits he wasted time. The thread is about the different standards between Joe and Floyd. Reading is fundamental.
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Re: Boxing media has double standards for Mayweather and Calazaghe ?
May 6, 2009 4:10 PM
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ewashi I named those useless english fighters because I was saying their were useless. now you say they were useless as if youre disagreeing with me? just how dumb are you trying to be?
calzaghe beat 10 world champions, won all 23 world title fights, was the lonest reiging world champ of all time at 11 years. yet you cant even acknowledge him. that makes you like like a complete idiot.
cue more foul talk from your mouth, which tells me you just dont understand.
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