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Joe is getting off way too cheaply with the media.
Floyd is getting hammered for refusing to fight less than the current best. Is the media biased against Floyd and too lenient with Joe ? What do you guys think ?
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Re: Boxing media has double standards for Mayweather and Calazaghe ?
May 5, 2009 12:14 PM
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Its not true if you would say American never had such a privileged!
You need exposure to be ranked! And American boxers are on it!
Chad Dawson
Kelly Pavlik...
Are now at Top 10 best P4P.
Lennox is exceptional, no American could defeat him... Thats why!
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Re: Boxing media has double standards for Mayweather and Calazaghe ?
May 5, 2009 12:02 PM
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> Come on!
> American fighters are/were the over hyped fighters!
> Enjoying so much exposures!
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> Boxing needs best boxers fighting each other!... Not
> avoiding each other! (Rampant ducking that happened
> at years 2006-2007).
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbnOaaYMmkY&feature=cha
> nnel_page <<< The plain TRUTH
The record speaks for itself. it's not the American fighter it is the best in the world fight in America.Look at Lennox Lewis.
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Re: Boxing media has double standards for Mayweather and Calazaghe ?
May 5, 2009 11:55 AM
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Come on!
American fighters are/were the over hyped fighters! Enjoying so much exposures!
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Re: Boxing media has double standards for Mayweather and Calazaghe ?
May 5, 2009 11:13 AM
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> why dont you actually LEARN something for a change
> instead of endless big trash talking rubbish?
> why do you think hatton got 2 million pay per view?
> because he is a world class boxer? NO
> why do you think frank bruno made £40 million and had
> 2 shots at a prime tyson?
> work it out, dont be a fool?
> why did beckham sell £25 million shirts the same week
> he signed for real madrid?
> why do you think the movie The Queen, a pretty awful
> movie cleaned up at the oscars and why has virtually
> every actor to played the queen won an oscar?
> are these things inter related?
> the monarchy controls london, london controls UK and
> is the most powerful media city in the world by
> miles
> get with the program
>
> hatton will NOT retire because every fight will make
> him over £5 million and he is only 30
> calzaghe had to fight against all this you are too
> ignorant and lazy to learn something new about how
> deeply ingrained class and politics and nationality
> is wedged into every part of UK
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> calzaghe never turned down any fights ith any of the
> top americans ever. he beat unbeaten kessler the best
> middleweight in the world still aged 287 in his prime
> 39 wins and no defeats a brute of a man, dropped lacy
> in his twenties, so too brewer and mitchell and robin
> reid and beat the great eubank aged 31.
>
> youre talking hot air and too lazy to learn new
> things. go on just keep saying bulls*it all day to
> people who tell you something you cant be bothered to
> learn
Are you serious ? All B fighters from second class competition . All club fighters and taxi drivers. Little Island guy. Go watch the sunset. Nobody in the world believes that crock of shit you speak.
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Re: Boxing media has double standards for Mayweather and Calazaghe ?
May 5, 2009 8:58 AM
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why dont you actually LEARN something for a change instead of endless big trash talking rubbish?
why do you think hatton got 2 million pay per view? because he is a world class boxer? NO
why do you think frank bruno made £40 million and had 2 shots at a prime tyson?
work it out, dont be a fool?
why did beckham sell £25 million shirts the same week he signed for real madrid?
why do you think the movie The Queen, a pretty awful movie cleaned up at the oscars and why has virtually every actor to played the queen won an oscar?
are these things inter related?
the monarchy controls london, london controls UK and is the most powerful media city in the world by miles
get with the program
hatton will NOT retire because every fight will make him over £5 million and he is only 30
calzaghe had to fight against all this you are too ignorant and lazy to learn something new about how deeply ingrained class and politics and nationality is wedged into every part of UK
calzaghe never turned down any fights ith any of the top americans ever. he beat unbeaten kessler the best middleweight in the world still aged 287 in his prime 39 wins and no defeats a brute of a man, dropped lacy in his twenties, so too brewer and mitchell and robin reid and beat the great eubank aged 31.
youre talking hot air and too lazy to learn new things. go on just keep saying bulls*it all day to people who tell you something you cant be bothered to learn
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Re: Boxing media has double standards for Mayweather and Calazaghe ?
May 4, 2009 11:08 AM
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> joe always wanted to come he just didnt have the
> english hype machine behind him that prints money.
> joe is from wales thats a small country to the left
> of england and south of scotland and east of ireland
> that makes up the United kingdom. fighters from wales
> (welsh people) have to fight that much harder to get
> any hype or recognition. same in all walks in UK. the
> english hype is embarassing to the scots, the irish
> and the welsh. the english dont understand why so
> many people dont like their elite. why have people
> even in america heard of beckham and not ryan giggs,
> giggs is the most successful british footballer of
> all time. european champion, won premier league 11
> times this year, 801 games for 1 club. but beckham
> has made £250 million giggs £35 million. why? beckham
> is english from east end of london. giggs is from
> wales and has no money men and hype behind him
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> it distorts everything
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> did you know the great welsh actor richard burton
> (elizabeth taylors husband twice) was banned for life
> from the BBC for sayiong almost exactly what I am
> saying now?
Gimme a break. The man did not want to fight Jones or others when they were young. He wanted to call the shots. Nice fighter not great stop blowing hot air. Beat Lacy, avoids Pavlik, Dawson and anybody under 30. To hell with it. I love Hatton time to retire. Go ring bells in wales and spare me bullship !
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Re: Boxing media has double standards for Mayweather and Calazaghe ?
May 4, 2009 9:40 AM
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joe always wanted to come he just didnt have the english hype machine behind him that prints money. joe is from wales thats a small country to the left of england and south of scotland and east of ireland that makes up the United kingdom. fighters from wales (welsh people) have to fight that much harder to get any hype or recognition. same in all walks in UK. the english hype is embarassing to the scots, the irish and the welsh. the english dont understand why so many people dont like their elite. why have people even in america heard of beckham and not ryan giggs, giggs is the most successful british footballer of all time. european champion, won premier league 11 times this year, 801 games for 1 club. but beckham has made £250 million giggs £35 million. why? beckham is english from east end of london. giggs is from wales and has no money men and hype behind him
it distorts everything
did you know the great welsh actor richard burton (elizabeth taylors husband twice) was banned for life from the BBC for sayiong almost exactly what I am saying now?
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Re: Boxing media has double standards for Mayweather and Calazaghe ?
Apr 29, 2009 1:23 AM
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> Paul Williams has called out Floyd Mayweather as
> well. But so far Floyd hasn't responded to him
> similarly.
I'd advise Mayweather against fighting Williams. I mean put yourself in a boxers shoes, this is you're career and you're legacy and the gain from a Williams fight is way further down the chain than some other guys out there.
Williams is not a superstar although hardcore boxing fans like to watch him fight, so there goes the box office draw, he's a huge risk to fight at 147 because he has a strange fighting style and hes a skyscraper at that weight. Finally, if Mayweather beat him, hardcore fans would say maybe Williams wasn't as seasoned as they thought, and the non hardcore fight fans would say that Floyd sucks for picking on nobodies like Williams simply because he's not well known to people who don't follow boxing. So there you have a no money no glory situation compared to a fight with people like Pacquio.
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Re: Boxing media has double standards for Mayweather and Calazaghe ?
Apr 28, 2009 9:52 PM
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> > > Gun....
> > >
> > > I personally don't care if Floyd fights
> until
> > he's
> > > s 50, or if he never fights again.
> > >
> > > If he comes back & fights big fights, just
> > because
> > > e he's broke...it won't change my enjoyment
> of
> > the
> > > fight itself.
> >
> > Even if those fights are against guys smaller
> than
> > him? If he fights Manny I'll give him a pass.
> But he
> > should be looking at guys like Berto,
> Clottey,Cotto,
> > Mosley rather than Marquez.
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> > Edited by GunRunner2 at 03/24/2009 8:11 AM PDT
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> Absolutely. I don't want to see him facing Marquez,
> , that's for sure. I don't think he plans to.....I
> believe he was simply responding to JMM calling him
> out after the Diaz fight.
Paul Williams has called out Floyd Mayweather as well. But so far Floyd hasn't responded to him similarly.
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Re: Boxing media has double standards for Mayweather and Calazaghe ?
Apr 28, 2009 7:55 PM
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> Joe is getting off way too cheaply with the media.
> Floyd is getting hammered for refusing to fight less
> than the current best. Is the media biased against
> Floyd and too lenient with Joe ? What do you guys
> think ?
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Absolutely not ... Joe became the king by winning a fight he was not favored to win, then unified all four belts (essentially) in the biggest fight in the division's history (well since Toney-Jones) ... then moved up and became king of the division there. And then won a lopsided decision over a faded Roy for good measure. He has nothing to apologize for. His legacy is complete.
Just because Froch calls him out does not mean Calzaghe has to fight him ... he has fought all the fights he had to ...
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Re: Boxing media has double standards for Mayweather and Calazaghe ?
Apr 28, 2009 7:42 PM
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Undefeated boxers always get hammered by media. As far as Joe Calzaghe goes, in my book hes a great fighter who people will forget due to him coming to the U.S. so late in his career. He could of given a ton of fighters problems here and maybe even had a blockbuster career had he come earlier in his career, but thats just speculation because he didn't. He said he didn't like flying planes or something to that nature.
His win against Roy Jones didn't mean much since Jones just wanted to do pad work with him that fight. The win against Hopkins I count as being a good test of him though since Calzaghe himself isn't so young and Hopkins remains a good fighter. Kessler was also a good showing. If he wants to he can retire honorably now in my opinion.
Floyd's defensive style makes him have a small fan base. Only the fans who like technical fighting and are into the sport enough that they are a walking boxing encyclopedia really enjoy watching this guy. So to that effect Floyd plays the bad guy, and therefor since he's undefeated he triples his audience by making people pay to see him defeated. I've actually seen a lot of favorable media for Floyd since he hung up the gloves. Sportswriters begging him to return to the ring almost.
If you hate him or love him, the fact remains that he is/was that undefeated pound for pound bad guy who went around snatching peoples belts and moving up in weight class. Most people want to see him beat, and the rest just plain want to see him fight. The media will be far more favorable to Floyd than Calzaghe in ten years more than likely, that meaning you will hear the name Mayweather still and at least in the U.S., you will rarely hear the name Calzaghe.
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Re: Boxing media has double standards for Mayweather and Calazaghe ?
Apr 28, 2009 6:58 PM
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> calzaghe is the best boxer in the world better than
> manny better than pretty boy too
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> calzaghe is an extraordinary talent totally unique ,
> unorthodox but totally instinctive
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> calzaghe is the longest reigng world champion of all
> time - 11 years
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> calzaghe beat 10 world champions and won all 23 world
> title fights
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> fact is he beat loads of great fighters in europe, so
> what where it was. he beat them all
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> fact is usa is not the mecca it was and joes best
> fights were often against the likes of the great
> eubank and kessler though he dropped several top
> americans like brewer lacy mitchell etc
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> roy turned him down for 5 years. why?
> hopkins turned him down for 5 years. why?
> FACT
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> joe ducked no one
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> what you must also understand is he wasnt as famous
> in UK as hatton or amir khan because joe is from
> wales not england that means he was and is ignored by
> UK media. this means he is less sellable.
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> why do you think the very poor bruno got a shot at
> tyson>? he had english hype media and money behind
> him
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> calzaghe had to overcome this media bias. he even
> lost out the sports personality of britain to the
> queens grand daughter. thats how outdated and biased
> and parochial the english still are
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> calzaghe is the real deal. he was the bets boxer in
> the world when he retired.
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Re: Boxing media has double standards for Mayweather and Calazaghe ?
Apr 28, 2009 6:49 PM
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calzaghe is the best boxer in the world better than manny better than pretty boy too
calzaghe is an extraordinary talent totally unique , unorthodox but totally instinctive
calzaghe is the longest reigng world champion of all time - 11 years
calzaghe beat 10 world champions and won all 23 world title fights
fact is he beat loads of great fighters in europe, so what where it was. he beat them all
fact is usa is not the mecca it was and joes best fights were often against the likes of the great eubank and kessler though he dropped several top americans like brewer lacy mitchell etc
roy turned him down for 5 years. why?
hopkins turned him down for 5 years. why?
FACT
joe ducked no one
what you must also understand is he wasnt as famous in UK as hatton or amir khan because joe is from wales not england that means he was and is ignored by UK media. this means he is less sellable.
why do you think the very poor bruno got a shot at tyson>? he had english hype media and money behind him
calzaghe had to overcome this media bias. he even lost out the sports personality of britain to the queens grand daughter. thats how outdated and biased and parochial the english still are
calzaghe is the real deal. he was the bets boxer in the world when he retired.
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Re: Boxing media has double standards for Mayweather and Calazaghe ?
Mar 24, 2009 11:55 AM
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> > Gun....
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> > I personally don't care if Floyd fights until
> he's
> > s 50, or if he never fights again.
> >
> > If he comes back & fights big fights, just
> because
> > e he's broke...it won't change my enjoyment of
> the
> > fight itself.
>
> Even if those fights are against guys smaller than
> him? If he fights Manny I'll give him a pass. But he
> should be looking at guys like Berto, Clottey,Cotto,
> Mosley rather than Marquez.
>
I think he is responding to who is seriously calling him out. I don't think he will fight Moseley as Shane would throw ridiculous amounts of monet trying tobe funny. Remember, it took Hatton numerous attempts and insults to get Floyd to fight. I think he was going to retire aafter the De La Hoya fight. I heard he spends thousands of dollars on doctor visits for a degenerative back ailment that hampers him. I heard at time he cries from the pain. If true,I tip my hat and thank him for the thrills. But JMM may really get under his skin. I really don't think Floyd likes to fight anymore.
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Re: Boxing media has double standards for Mayweather and Calazaghe ?
Mar 24, 2009 11:13 AM
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> > Gun....
> >
> > I personally don't care if Floyd fights until
> he's
> > s 50, or if he never fights again.
> >
> > If he comes back & fights big fights, just
> because
> > e he's broke...it won't change my enjoyment of
> the
> > fight itself.
>
> Even if those fights are against guys smaller than
> him? If he fights Manny I'll give him a pass. But he
> should be looking at guys like Berto, Clottey,Cotto,
> Mosley rather than Marquez.
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> Edited by GunRunner2 at 03/24/2009 8:11 AM PDT
Absolutely. I don't want to see him facing Marquez, that's for sure. I don't think he plans to.....I believe he was simply responding to JMM calling him out after the Diaz fight.
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