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Malignaggi won his fight against Diaz, Point blank! The only reason the judges didn't score it for him is because 1) they fought in Diaz's hometown and 2) Diaz is more marketable. This is ridiculous!!
I love the sport of boxing, but if it's going to be decided by who the fans like more, then I'm losing interest. I want to see fights where the person who won, wins!
I know Diaz fans, and people who want to keep the cool are going to say that it was a close fight and it could've went either way, B.S.!
It shouldn't come down to who's more marketable, or who's more popular where they're fighting! I actually like Diaz, and hasn't really looked at Malignaggi as a serious contender. I thought Diaz would win this fight by KO, But he lost!
There's no other way for me to say it, Malignaggi was robbed, and it stinks like sh*t!
I can't take many more of these type of victories. No wonder the favorites keep getting knocked the F*c* Out! They didn't earn the spot in the first place.
I'm rambling now, but you get the point, this was BS and I don't care how many times you flip it and try and turn it, it still isn't right and it's hurting the sport!
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Re: Boxing is a popularity contest! I'm hating it!
Aug 29, 2009 12:23 AM
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> > That's why if you are underdog you need to do
> your
> > best to at least make your opponent kiss his ass
> to
> > the canvas or otherwise expect the expected.
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> A real underdog fighter who turned out to be quite a
> revelation, as witnessed by the world boxing public
> in 2001, was a skinny Asian guy whom the promoters
> arbitrarily picked-up as a late replacement against
> the reigning IBF super-bantamweight champion called
> "Hands of Stone", Lehlohonolo Ledwaba from South
> Africa.
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> That night, there was no evidence of the South
> African's "Hands of Stone" at all, as the Asian
> fighter beat him up in every round and eventually
> knocked-out the champion Ledwaba in the 6th round.
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> The little Asian fighter didn't even have any amateur
> boxing experience and spent his early life living in
> a slum, sleeping on cardboard boxes as his bed.
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> That Asian fighter's name is Manny Pacquiao, who's
> now world-renowned and otherwise known as Pacman...
> 
hows that pacman sperm taste joe is right lol
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Re: Boxing is a popularity contest! I'm hating it!
Aug 28, 2009 11:59 PM
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> That's why if you are underdog you need to do your
> best to at least make your opponent kiss his ass to
> the canvas or otherwise expect the expected.
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A real underdog fighter who turned out to be quite a revelation, as witnessed by the world boxing public in 2001, was a skinny Asian guy whom the promoters arbitrarily picked-up as a late replacement against the reigning IBF super-bantamweight champion called "Hands of Stone", Lehlohonolo Ledwaba from South Africa.
That night, there was no evidence of the South African's "Hands of Stone" at all, as the Asian fighter beat him up in every round and eventually knocked-out the champion Ledwaba in the 6th round.
The little Asian fighter didn't even have any amateur boxing experience and spent his early life living in a slum, sleeping on cardboard boxes as his bed.
That Asian fighter's name is Manny Pacquiao, who's now world-renowned and otherwise known as Pacman...
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Re: Boxing is a popularity contest! I'm hating it!
Aug 28, 2009 11:13 PM
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I've noticed that homefield advantage exist. It's like this, fans weight more heavily, than the athletes themselves, whether the venue gets sold out. Fans dictate who gets the nod, in a close fight. The promoters know this, as well as the officials and the production manager.
It was widely held by old boxing commentators, that the challenger, had to KO the champion, in order to win. You may not agree with the axiom but it's true.
Markets are built, one fight at a time. In a close fight, I don't mind if the hometown fighter gets the nod. It has to do with marketability. You guys can call me crazy but it's true.
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Re: Boxing is a popularity contest! I'm hating it!
Aug 27, 2009 6:01 AM
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In Malignaggi's case...
....HE DRESS LIKE A SUPERFLY AND BITES LIKE A FLEA.
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Edited by themandingo at 08/27/2009 3:02 AM PDT
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Re: Boxing is a popularity contest! I'm hating it!
Aug 26, 2009 11:42 PM
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That's why if you are underdog you need to do your best to at least make your opponent kiss his ass to the canvas or otherwise expect the expected.
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Re: Boxing is a popularity contest! I'm hating it!
Aug 26, 2009 11:19 PM
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Give it up Pharris. Yes I said Float like a butterfly but I also said doing that without any incidents from the other guy.
Diaz was competitive so he didn't do that in this fight.
That wasn't a shot at you or anything.
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Re: Boxing is a popularity contest! I'm hating it!
Aug 26, 2009 10:57 PM
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Give it up Pharris. Yes I said Float like a butterfly but I also said doing that without any incidents from the other guy.
Diaz was competitive so he didn't do that in this fight.
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Re: Boxing is a popularity contest! I'm hating it!
Aug 26, 2009 9:36 PM
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> close fight, period.
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> Shows one rule of prizefighting that has always
> endured ... get a stop, and none of this matters ...
Yea no shit. I think someone who can't knock or hurt anybody ever, shouldn't even be in boxing. Malignaggie always depends on the judges. With his style, he has to float like a butterfly the full 12 rds without any major incidents and he just hasn't done that in his last few fights.
Some thought he lost to Herman N'Goujo on showtime, and Malignaggie got the close call his way. So as "full of shit" boxing is, he got the benefit of it that night.
This just proves my statement, boxing is a popularity contest. Nobody likes Malignaggi's style so they don't mind him getting stiffed. I don't like his style either but damn, he won. Even if his punches weren't doing any damage, they still were landing. He did more than Diaz did, even though Diaz punch harder, but hell he couldn't punch hard enough, obviously.
Malignaggi went in and (Like you said) floated like a butterfly, because he can't win unless he does. He trys to out hit his opponent. He tries to make them fight his fight and he did that with Diaz. Hatton cut the ring off and Diaz could not. Plus He got cut, where was the headbutt?
We'll have to agree to disagree, because there's no way Diaz's poor performance should've gotten a win, this gives him false pride and he'll ultimately be the one that suffers from this. He'll get killed by the top 140 pounders, and I actually like him, but I'm a realist/real boxing fan. I don't understand this popularity sh*t!
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Re: Boxing is a popularity contest! I'm hating it!
Aug 26, 2009 5:18 PM
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> close fight, period.
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> Shows one rule of prizefighting that has always
> endured ... get a stop, and none of this matters ...
Yea no shit. I think someone who can't knock or hurt anybody ever, shouldn't even be in boxing. Malignaggie always depends on the judges. With his style, he has to float like a butterfly the full 12 rds without any major incidents and he just hasn't done that in his last few fights.
Some thought he lost to Herman N'Goujo on showtime, and Malignaggie got the close call his way. So as "full of shit" boxing is, he got the benefit of it that night.
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Re: Boxing is a popularity contest! I'm hating it!
Aug 26, 2009 4:31 PM
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close fight, period.
Shows one rule of prizefighting that has always endured ... get a stop, and none of this matters ...
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Re: Boxing is a popularity contest! I'm hating it!
Aug 26, 2009 4:26 PM
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A question for all you guys.........Why did Paulie lose the fight ?
Conspiracy?
Home cooking ?
I think baby Bull carried the fight , pressed the action landed the harder blows.......etc...Paulie had a lot of movement but he wasn't sticking. Poor body language and suspect defense. Depends on what you were looking for.
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Re: Boxing is a popularity contest! I'm hating it!
Aug 26, 2009 3:38 PM
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It's not a robbery. It was close either way. It's not like Paulie won 9 rounds and was screwed over. It was 7-5 or even in my eyes.
BTW I can't stand Malinaggi so I might've been slightly biased in my draw. Oh well.
I think a lot of people don't care for malignaggi (including me) but Diaz got out boxed. All he had was the left and that did nothing but win maybe 4 or 5 rounds because Malignaggi put his back on the ropes.
This was a robbery, not of the same magnitude of other robberies, but still a robbery.
Malignaggi did enough to win the fight.
Diaz looked horrible and needs to train harder because I don't see him beating any top notch fighters in that weight division. I think Hatton kills him, and even Bradley would get the Win. Hell he couldn't beat Malignaggi LMAO
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Re: Boxing is a popularity contest! I'm hating it!
Aug 26, 2009 3:10 PM
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It's not a robbery. It was close either way. It's not like Paulie won 9 rounds and was screwed over. It was 7-5 or even in my eyes.
BTW I can't stand Malinaggi so I might've been slightly biased in my draw. Oh well.
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Re: Boxing is a popularity contest! I'm hating it!
Aug 26, 2009 1:06 PM
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i believe the guy who won should win ... but more popular fighters dictate terms of fights entering - big shock ... judges liked Diaz more because hey it was a close fight ... and that some judges don't like stinky fight styles does matter in a close fight sometimes.
The fight was not a robbery - except in the eyes of those who got mystified by Paulie's words.
This is not a discussion about the fight, this is a discussion about the fan favorite getting the decision. This has nothing to do with what the favorite does before the fight either.
You said that a persons popularity wins him the fight. Wait let me go back and check.
The judging was poor in 1 of the 3 cards ... boxing has always been decided by who the fans like more, sorry to break this to you ...
Yup, that's what you said, so you think that boxing has always been decided by who the fan likes, and you're sorry to break it to me, now you're talking about the fan favorite dictates stuff before the fight, that's not the same thing.
So please elaborate on this concept for me.
The Diaz vs Malignaggi fight was a robbery, I'm not trying to compare it to other robberies, but this was still a robbery. People can't say a man lost because of a guys fighting style, he controlled the pace of the fight almost the entire fight, to the point that Diaz was lunging in to try and hit him, while Malignaggi simply circled him and kept landing shots.
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Re: Boxing is a popularity contest! I'm hating it!
Aug 25, 2009 7:54 AM
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> I don't know what fights you've been watching, but
> the one's I've watched is decided by who the judges
> liked more. Sorry that you've never seen many fights
> in the past.
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> Who gets more crowd appreciation should not get the
> nod! If you believe that, then what's the point of
> going to the score cards? They should just raise each
> fighters hand and say "Let me hear a round of
> applause for this fighter" lol......
i believe the guy who won should win ... but more popular fighters dictate terms of fights entering - big shock ... judges liked Diaz more because hey it was a close fight ... and that some judges don't like stinky fight styles does matter in a close fight sometimes.
The fight was not a robbery - except in the eyes of those who got mystified by Paulie's words.
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