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Re: Cotto: "After I beat Pacquiao, he can fight Mayweather
Nov 6, 2009 11:07 PM
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Everybody wants to see Floyd get knocked out. You think that increases or decreases his PPV sales? You can argue that he's less of a prom king than Pac and Hatton all you want. Are you guys not tired of that argument?
I guess not
Amen!
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Re: Cotto: "After I beat Pacquiao, he can fight Mayweather
Nov 6, 2009 10:58 PM
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> So basically we're talking 9-10 divisions. Who else
> in history could pull that off?
Actually Pacquiao has slightly more titles
than Mayweather Jr (I'm not going to list
them all again) with some of his best and
hardest fights for his WBC "International"
super featherweight title which ought to
just about count for all the "World" titles
put together.
He has losses but he takes chances.
He'll still lose to Mayweather and beat Cotto.
imo
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Edited by JimEarl at 11/06/2009 8:53 PM PST
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Re: Cotto: "After I beat Pacquiao, he can fight Mayweather
Nov 6, 2009 10:27 PM
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You hate Floyd so the obvious isn't obvious to you,
> but there is nobody out there that Pac can fight and
> make more than he would with Floyd as his opponent
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Certainly, the world boxing public would love to see Mayweather fight other good fighters.
But they hate the ducker Mayweather who prefers to fight opponents who are smaller...
HEY HBO Put A CAPTCHA on this guys account, I think he's a robot! LOL
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Re: Cotto: "After I beat Pacquiao, he can fight Mayweather
Nov 6, 2009 10:16 PM
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> LMAO!
>
> PACQUIAO DON'T NEED FRAUD TO MAKE MONEY!
>
> Take a look at his resume when it comes to WORLD WIDE
> FAME, MONEY, AND INFLUENCE.
>
> Fraud can't even make the list!
>
>
> Pacquiao IS the man of boxing right now. He is the
> P4P king, soon to be the First and Only 7 weight
> division Champ, the AskMen.com's 24rth Most
> Influential person on the planet surpassing even
> Kobe, Lebron, and Tiger Woods, making the the Forbes
> 100 list.
>
> You hate Floyd so the obvious isn't obvious to you,
> but there is nobody out there that Pac can fight and
> make more than he would with Floyd as his opponent,
> so you LMAO all you want!!! If you're saying Pac is
> more popular, then you're right!
>
> So what!?!
>
> Pacquiao has millions of his countrymen as fans.
> Hatton has hundreds of thousands and at least 50
> thousand who would fly half way across the world to
> see him fight. Floyd cant even get people from his
> own home town to come see him and has far more
> critics than fans.
>
> Everybody wants to see Floyd get knocked out. You
> think that increases or decreases his PPV sales? You
> can argue that he's less of a prom king than Pac and
> Hatton all you want. Are you guys not tired of that
> argument?
>
> I guess not
Pacquiao is one of 9 boxing GREATS who ever graced the cover of Time magazine.
I think Fraud made the cover of Jet magazine at one time..nice...lol
I see you don't get my point. Well we'll have to leave it like this, because I don't care enough to try and explain it.
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Re: Cotto: "After I beat Pacquiao, he can fight Mayweather
Nov 6, 2009 8:51 AM
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> You hate Floyd so the obvious isn't obvious to you,
> but there is nobody out there that Pac can fight and
> make more than he would with Floyd as his opponent
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Certainly, the world boxing public would love to see Mayweather fight other good fighters.
But they hate the ducker Mayweather who prefers to fight opponents who are smaller... 
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Re: Cotto: "After I beat Pacquiao, he can fight Mayweather
Nov 6, 2009 7:41 AM
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> LMAO!
>
> PACQUIAO DON'T NEED FRAUD TO MAKE MONEY!
>
> Take a look at his resume when it comes to WORLD WIDE
> FAME, MONEY, AND INFLUENCE.
>
> Fraud can't even make the list!
>
>
> Pacquiao IS the man of boxing right now. He is the
> P4P king, soon to be the First and Only 7 weight
> division Champ, the AskMen.com's 24rth Most
> Influential person on the planet surpassing even
> Kobe, Lebron, and Tiger Woods, making the the Forbes
> 100 list.
>
> You hate Floyd so the obvious isn't obvious to you,
> but there is nobody out there that Pac can fight and
> make more than he would with Floyd as his opponent,
> so you LMAO all you want!!! If you're saying Pac is
> more popular, then you're right!
>
> So what!?!
>
> Pacquiao has millions of his countrymen as fans.
> Hatton has hundreds of thousands and at least 50
> thousand who would fly half way across the world to
> see him fight. Floyd cant even get people from his
> own home town to come see him and has far more
> critics than fans.
>
> Everybody wants to see Floyd get knocked out. You
> think that increases or decreases his PPV sales? You
> can argue that he's less of a prom king than Pac and
> Hatton all you want. Are you guys not tired of that
> argument?
>
> I guess not
Pacquiao is one of 9 boxing GREATS who ever graced the cover of Time magazine.
I think Fraud made the cover of Jet magazine at one time..nice...lol
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Re: Cotto: "After I beat Pacquiao, he can fight Mayweather
Nov 6, 2009 1:42 AM
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LMAO!
PACQUIAO DON'T NEED FRAUD TO MAKE MONEY!
Take a look at his resume when it comes to WORLD WIDE FAME, MONEY, AND INFLUENCE.
Fraud can't even make the list!
Pacquiao IS the man of boxing right now. He is the P4P king, soon to be the First and Only 7 weight division Champ, the AskMen.com's 24rth Most Influential person on the planet surpassing even Kobe, Lebron, and Tiger Woods, making the the Forbes 100 list.
You hate Floyd so the obvious isn't obvious to you, but there is nobody out there that Pac can fight and make more than he would with Floyd as his opponent, so you LMAO all you want!!! If you're saying Pac is more popular, then you're right!
So what!?!
Pacquiao has millions of his countrymen as fans. Hatton has hundreds of thousands and at least 50 thousand who would fly half way across the world to see him fight. Floyd cant even get people from his own home town to come see him and has far more critics than fans.
Everybody wants to see Floyd get knocked out. You think that increases or decreases his PPV sales? You can argue that he's less of a prom king than Pac and Hatton all you want. Are you guys not tired of that argument?
I guess not
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Re: Cotto: "After I beat Pacquiao, he can fight Mayweather
Nov 5, 2009 10:49 PM
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> > Outside of boxing, compared to Pacman, Floyd
> > Mayweather is a virtual nobody.
> >
> > After all, Pacman is hailed as a hero in his
> > own country, who's in show business, entertainment,
> > advertisement, groomed to be a Governor,
> > Congressman and President.
> >
> > Whereas, Mayweather isn't a leader and won't
> > even win if he'll run for public office as a dog-catcher...
> Pacquiao has millions of his countrymen as fans.
> Hatton has hundreds of thousands and at least 50
> thousand who would fly half way across the world
> to see him fight. Floyd cant even get people from
> his own home town to come see him and has far
> more critics than fans.
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Well, if Mayweather will run for dog-catcher, there might be a remote possibility that he will win.
However, the dogs will probably run him out of office...
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Re: Cotto: "After I beat Pacquiao, he can fight Mayweather
Nov 5, 2009 10:27 PM
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> Outside of boxing, compared to Pacman, Floyd
> Mayweather is a virtual nobody.
>
> After all, Pacman is hailed as a hero in his own
> country, who's in show business, entertainment,
> advertisement, groomed to be a Governor, Congressman
> and President.
>
> Whereas, Mayweather isn't a leader and won't even win
> if he'll run for public office as a dog-catcher...
Pacquiao has millions of his countrymen as fans. Hatton has hundreds of thousands and at least 50 thousand who would fly half way across the world to see him fight. Floyd cant even get people from his own home town to come see him and has far more critics than fans.
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Re: Cotto: "After I beat Pacquiao, he can fight Mayweather
Nov 5, 2009 10:25 PM
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> 7 divisions is 7 divisions ... yes, there are
> caveats, but hard not to be in boxing ...
>
> Floyd is a 5 division champ/3 legit
> Oscar is 6 division/4 legit
>
> Pacquaio right now is 6 division/4 legit ... there is
> an argument that 126 is not legit because a title was
> not involved when he fought Barrera, but it is also
> one of the cases where the lineage did not follow the
> belts ... the first win over Barrera was the defacto
> 126 title.
>
> And somehow, without going on too much of a limb, if
> Pacquaio had wanted to (and probably should have
> given his first 112 defense's outcome and the fact he
> returned the next fight at 122) - titles at 115 and
> 118 were entirely plausible.
So basically we're talking 9-10 divisions. Who else in history could pull that off?
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Re: Cotto: "After I beat Pacquiao, he can fight Mayweather
Nov 5, 2009 9:54 PM
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> PACQUIAO DON'T NEED FRAUD TO MAKE MONEY!
>
> Take a look at his resume when it comes to WORLD
> WIDE FAME, MONEY, AND INFLUENCE.
>
> Fraud can't even make the list!
> --
> Edited by themandingo at 11/05/2009 3:53 AM PST
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Outside of boxing, compared to Pacman, Floyd Mayweather is a virtual nobody.
After all, Pacman is hailed as a hero in his own country, who's in show business, entertainment, advertisement, groomed to be a Governor, Congressman and President.
Whereas, Mayweather isn't a leader and won't even win if he'll run for public office as a dog-catcher...
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Re: Cotto: "After I beat Pacquiao, he can fight Mayweather
Nov 5, 2009 6:48 PM
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Ithink Floyd is doing good here he knows manny will get ko'd and he will still fight manny pac why not Manny will still sell tickets.
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Re: Cotto: "After I beat Pacquiao, he can fight Mayweather
Nov 5, 2009 11:59 AM
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well we'll see whos calling who out come nov.14th
all i know is that if paquiao wins, hes gonna be calling the shots. and if may weather wants to fight him floyd is goanna come to him, not the other way around.
but then again, paquiao has to beat cotto first, and tha is no small task.
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Re: Cotto: "After I beat Pacquiao, he can fight Mayweather
Nov 5, 2009 11:44 AM
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> 7 divisions is 7 divisions ... yes, there are
> caveats, but hard not to be in boxing ...
>
> Floyd is a 5 division champ/3 legit
> Oscar is 6 division/4 legit
>
> Pacquaio right now is 6 division/4 legit ... there is
> an argument that 126 is not legit because a title was
> not involved when he fought Barrera, but it is also
> one of the cases where the lineage did not follow the
> belts ... the first win over Barrera was the defacto
> 126 title.
>
> And somehow, without going on too much of a limb, if
> Pacquaio had wanted to (and probably should have
> given his first 112 defense's outcome and the fact he
> returned the next fight at 122) - titles at 115 and
> 118 were entirely plausible.
His featherweight title is legit. He won a lineal title at flyweight, but I believe most people felt "Too Sharp" Johnson was the world's best fly while Pac was down there. As for 122, Paulie Ayala was the champ. 130 and 140 were legit. And if he beats Cotto, IMO it will be just like his title at lightweight that Arum bought and let David Diaz keep warn for him. He did the same thing in the Cotto-Jennings deal, just on a bigger scale.
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Re: Cotto: "After I beat Pacquiao, he can fight Mayweather
Nov 5, 2009 11:37 AM
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7 divisions is 7 divisions ... yes, there are caveats, but hard not to be in boxing ...
Floyd is a 5 division champ/3 legit
Oscar is 6 division/4 legit
Pacquaio right now is 6 division/4 legit ... there is an argument that 126 is not legit because a title was not involved when he fought Barrera, but it is also one of the cases where the lineage did not follow the belts ... the first win over Barrera was the defacto 126 title.
And somehow, without going on too much of a limb, if Pacquaio had wanted to (and probably should have given his first 112 defense's outcome and the fact he returned the next fight at 122) - titles at 115 and 118 were entirely plausible.
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