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Yea i dont understand why Clottey hasnt been able to get good fights since he beat Zab Judah, Kermit Cintron was supposed to fight him & backed off to take another fight & a higher weight class.
Atleast Cotto takes on all comers. Should be a great fight, i like cotto by decision.
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Jun 1, 2009 3:13 PM
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> I think we r in for a potential fight of the year
> between cotto and clottey. I see them both coming
> forward throwing vicious blows!!! I am picking cotto
> to win but a clottey win wouldnt surprise me at all.
> Clottey has some good speed and we have to wonder if
> cotto can get to his body without taking too many
> punches to the head!
I hope so.
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Jun 1, 2009 2:58 PM
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I think we r in for a potential fight of the year between cotto and clottey. I see them both coming forward throwing vicious blows!!! I am picking cotto to win but a clottey win wouldnt surprise me at all. Clottey has some good speed and we have to wonder if cotto can get to his body without taking too many punches to the head!
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Jun 1, 2009 2:48 PM
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> Hitking/Steve....
>
> Ponder this:
> Cotto is known for being a brutal body puncher...it's
> his bread & butter and he's made a solid name out of
> it.
>
> Now.....Margarito didn't give him an inch of
> his body. No matter what Cotto did, he couldn't find
> Margarito's rib cage or short ribs....no matter how
> much he tried.
>
> Clottey's people UNDOUBTEDLY seen and know this.
>
> What do you think Clottey is gonna do ? How much
> of that body , do you think Clottey is gonna expose
> ?
>
> Answer: None.
>
> It'll be interesting to see how Cotto reacts this
> time, when his body attack is rendered
> useless........
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> --
> "On Mosley, first off, coming from a known
> steroid user he ain't even allowed to open his mouth
> about me.." - Real Talk from, Floyd
> Mayweather.
That's a bad comparison in my opinion Gluvs. Cotto didn't find Margarito's body because he never looked for it. The way Cotto fought showed me that he was worried about being KO'd from the moment they signed the fight. Mosley hit Margarito with so many right hands, damn he just landed another one, that people have forgotten that he went to Margarito's body very effectively. But, I with you that Clottey will go into his shell and Cotto's body attack won't be as effective as it normally is. But, this is a double edged sword for Clottey. He could render Cotto's offense ineffective. But, if he gets too defensive and not punch, he will be outworked for a decision. Cotto is the star of this promotion and he's the one with the superfights down the road. Even if Clottey KOs Cotto, he ain't gonna see the likes of Mayweather, Pacquaio, or Mosley anytime soon, if ever. With all the money that stands to be made, or lost in this fight, Clottey is gonna have to KO Cotto to get a draw.
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Jun 1, 2009 2:43 PM
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> i agree that paul williams is a duked fighter and i
> think cotto knows better than to fight him.. you see
> with guys like clottey and margarito they sometimes
> look beatable but then people find out that they are
> much better than they look to be when you get in the
> ring. paul williams cannot hide his huge reach
> advantage or workrate and chin. as much as williams
> is duck clottey did call him out and clottey went as
> far as saying that he would go up in weight to fight
> him at 154. williams responded with trash talk but no
> real interest in fighting clottey. now im not sayin
> clottey would beat paul williams as a matter of fact
> i would pick clottey to beat anyone he gets in a ring
> with except paul williams because willams s a freak
> of nature. but i think it would be an excellent fight
> ... remember quintana was supposed to lose the first
> time they fought
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> from mediocrities." -Albert Einstein
I think he is ducked at WW. at SWW and MW he has people who are mnore than happy to fight him.
Personnally, I would like to see the 2 people that defeated Marge despite marge's plaster wraps, fight each other: among the many fights I would like to see PW in.
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Jun 1, 2009 2:41 PM
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> Hitking/Steve....
>
> Ponder this:
> Cotto is known for being a brutal body puncher...it's
> his bread & butter and he's made a solid name out of
> it.
>
> Now.....Margarito didn't give him an inch of
> his body. No matter what Cotto did, he couldn't find
> Margarito's rib cage or short ribs....no matter how
> much he tried.
>
> Clottey's people UNDOUBTEDLY seen and know this.
>
> What do you think Clottey is gonna do ? How much
> of that body , do you think Clottey is gonna expose
> ?
>
> Answer: None.
>
> It'll be interesting to see how Cotto reacts this
> time, when his body attack is rendered
> useless........
>
> --
> "On Mosley, first off, coming from a known
> steroid user he ain't even allowed to open his mouth
> about me.." - Real Talk from, Floyd
> Mayweather.
well, Cotto outboxed Marge until the plaster did him in.
That is how he reacted to no seeing an inch of the body.
I imagine he will react the same, but this tiime be more insistent on making an opening to the body.
I see this as a pick'em fight but don't think either will blow the other out. It should be a good fight.
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Jun 1, 2009 2:36 PM
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Hitking/Steve....
Ponder this:
Cotto is known for being a brutal body puncher...it's his bread & butter and he's made a solid name out of it.
Now.....Margarito didn't give him an inch of his body. No matter what Cotto did, he couldn't find Margarito's rib cage or short ribs....no matter how much he tried.
Clottey's people UNDOUBTEDLY seen and know this.
What do you think Clottey is gonna do ? How much of that body , do you think Clottey is gonna expose ?
Answer: None.
It'll be interesting to see how Cotto reacts this time, when his body attack is rendered useless........
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Jun 1, 2009 2:32 PM
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> Clottey seems to be more solid bodywise than most in
> that division, he looks tough, he hits hard, he'd be
> a tough challenge for most I think. Who do you guys
> think is the quicker of Cotto and Clottey? This
> fight is a tough one for me to predict, I am leaning
> towards Clottey but like Cotto better. I also am
> curious to see how Cotto will do without Evangelista
> in his corner. I don't know who he's bringing in
> instead.
I think Cotto is the slightly better fighter. If Cotto is a 10, Clottey is a 9.5. Pick em fights like this usually come down to hunger. Clottey knows if he loses, he's probably never on this big a stage again. Cotto knows he was one of the most forgiving fan bases in boxing. Cotto also has the psycological disadvantage of knowing he quit his last time out, I don't count the Jennings' fight. Cotto also knows he has the excuse of his uncle screwing up his camp. At days end, I just think Clottey will want it a little more, and win the fight.
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Jun 1, 2009 10:38 AM
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Clottey seems to be more solid bodywise than most in that division, he looks tough, he hits hard, he'd be a tough challenge for most I think. Who do you guys think is the quicker of Cotto and Clottey? This fight is a tough one for me to predict, I am leaning towards Clottey but like Cotto better. I also am curious to see how Cotto will do without Evangelista in his corner. I don't know who he's bringing in instead.
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Jun 1, 2009 10:03 AM
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i agree that paul williams is a duked fighter and i think cotto knows better than to fight him.. you see with guys like clottey and margarito they sometimes look beatable but then people find out that they are much better than they look to be when you get in the ring. paul williams cannot hide his huge reach advantage or workrate and chin. as much as williams is duck clottey did call him out and clottey went as far as saying that he would go up in weight to fight him at 154. williams responded with trash talk but no real interest in fighting clottey. now im not sayin clottey would beat paul williams as a matter of fact i would pick clottey to beat anyone he gets in a ring with except paul williams because willams s a freak of nature. but i think it would be an excellent fight ... remember quintana was supposed to lose the first time they fought
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May 31, 2009 4:08 PM
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I did a preview of this fight on my boxing blog. www.boxingledger.blogspot.com
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May 31, 2009 12:50 PM
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and marlon only fough like 4 more times after that.
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May 30, 2009 10:03 PM
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> > I haven't seen urango fight much, but I think
> Berto
> > will win this with some difficulty if urango
> handles
> > the move up well.
> >
> > Columbian boxers are not always well schooled
> when
> > they get to prime time, but have a powerful
> punch
> > that gets them to prime time.
> >
> > for some reason Iwhenever i see a columbian,
> usually
> > unknown, fighting a good boxer, I shudder
> because I
> > have seen some upsets and kayoes due to lucky
> punches
> > from unknown columbian prospects. Can't remeber
> any
> > names now. I don't expect that to happen with
> > urango. he is a little better known thatn the
> guys i
> > am thinking of.
> >
> > urango is being trained by evangelista Cotto
> now. I
> > hear he has more time to give him now. LOL!!
> >
> > --
> > I came
> > I saw
> > and I conquered
>
> Random Colombian bomber that comes to mind...Toma
> s Molinares...upset welterweight champ Marlon
> Starling with a punch after the bell awhile back.
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> -is-over-chagaev-and-valuev-meet-again/
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> http://www.fightinsight.com/2009/05/24/on-the-surface-
> juan-urango-is-a-good-test-for-andre-berto/
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> http://www.fightinsight.com/2009/05/24/cotto-invites-c
> lottey-to-his-annual-madison-square-garden-party/
oh yeah, thats one. I remember watching the replay over and over and over again tryingt to figure it out. they shoulda did it again.
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