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Looks like Arum is going to pull out all the stop to make this happen in July.
Marquez-Vazquez III looks to have some serious competition for FOTY in this one.
I think I like Cotto in this one. The fight will go inside given their styles and I can't help but think Cotto's combinations, handspeed, and shorter arms will prevail. Margarito will have enough moments for it to be REALLY competitive though.....Cotto will probably be lumped up more than at any other point in his career.
Cotto SD
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Thanks. I was wondering that last night for some reason.
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How much did this fight sell, anybody know?>>>
From Thomas Hauser column:
"The MGM Grand Garden Arena seats 16,000. A disappointing crowd of 10,477 attended the fight. Puerto Rico vs. Mexico is still essentially an east coast rivalry. The bout would have been better attended had it taken place at Madison Square Garden or in Atlantic City. But Arum’s judgment was vindicated by the first post-fight pay-per-view numbers, which indicate that there were close to 500,000 buys."
http://www.secondsout.com/columns/index.cfm?ccs=208&cs=27341
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How much did this fight sell, anybody know?
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Re: Cotto VS Margarito.....
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> I'm up for a Margartio-Williams ll, as many others
> are interested i'm sure, but Margo wants to milk the
> cashcow like others, but Delahoya won't take such a
> risk, which really, we all know DLH has one foot out
> the door and looking for a semi-tough fight, in which
> he has a chance of Victory with odds in his favor,
> , and trying to leave the game with some
> dignity.......Margo or Cotto don't offer that, so now
> were left with Paquiao and possibly Mora, with rumors
> stating if Mora can get past Forrest again which is
> something we can't bank on, then Mora will be up
> against the golden boy.
>
> Margarito will most likely face Williams, Cotto, or
> Clottey in a rematch. either way he has his hands
> full and doing what champions do, taking on the best
> to be the best, with no questions left to linger.
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> more you hate me the more you will learn, I am hard,
> but I am fair, there is no racial bigotry here" ~
> Full Metal Jacket.
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> Edited by rikyricardo79 at 08/26/2008 4:13 PM PDT
That is what champions do. Unless those champions are named Mayweather or DelaHoya. 
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Re: Cotto VS Margarito.....
Aug 26, 2008 8:25 PM
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> I am puerto rican, and who the hell is Daniel
> Santos??? Daniel Santos please Stand Up!!!
daniel santos beat marg., its more than any other fighter has done.
sanots can beat williams easily. and he already beat marg..
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I'm up for a Margartio-Williams ll, as many others are interested i'm sure, but Margo wants to milk the cashcow like others, but Delahoya won't take such a risk, which really, we all know DLH has one foot out the door and looking for a semi-tough fight, in which he has a chance of Victory with odds in his favor, and trying to leave the game with some dignity.......Margo or Cotto don't offer that, so now were left with Paquiao and possibly Mora, with rumors stating if Mora can get past Forrest again which is something we can't bank on, then Mora will be up against the golden boy.
Margarito will most likely face Williams, Cotto, or Clottey in a rematch. either way he has his hands full and doing what champions do, taking on the best to be the best, with no questions left to linger.
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Re: Cotto VS Margarito.....
Aug 26, 2008 11:57 AM
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HAHAHA na im good, this guy is a nobody, who probably got lucky that he headbutted margarito twice.
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Aug 25, 2008 4:52 PM
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> I am puerto rican, and who the hell is Daniel
> Santos??? Daniel Santos please Stand Up!!!
LOL. You should get together with carglib to see who can build him up or take him down the best.
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Re: Cotto VS Margarito.....
Aug 25, 2008 4:27 PM
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I am puerto rican, and who the hell is Daniel Santos??? Daniel Santos please Stand Up!!!
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Re: Cotto VS Margarito.....
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I acctually saw this fight. santos lucked out, the fight was stopped right when margarito was coming on. this fight was going to end the same way the cotto fight ended, with santos landing some clean shots, but evettaully looking up at the lights.
when the fight was stopped santos had a look of relief, releived the ass whoopin hes was about to take was postponed.
should the fight again i dont see santos gettin passthe 6th. hes pretty much doen and margarito is flying high.
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Re: Cotto VS Margarito.....
Aug 25, 2008 12:19 PM
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> > I tell you what, people here say Santos needs
> to
> > fight more people, then let williams and santos
> > fight. the battle of the fighters that beat
> > Marg., and this will get people's attention.
> and
> > let marg agree to fight the winner.
> > I got santos easy. any good boxer can beat
> williams.
> > quintana already proved that, and quintana is
> not as
> > good or as strong as santos. .
> >
> > --
> > I came
> > I saw
> > and I conquered
> >
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> > Edited by cargilb1 at 08/24/2008 3:01 PM PDT
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> That win by Quintana and all the subsequent boxing
> post's that followed across the internet is exactly
> what got hisazz jakked-up so-bad in the re-match.
>
> Uh, next time you watch that fight, I want you to
> listen very closely after they enter the ring,
> there's somebody in the back-ground yellin "payback
> time".
>
> Anyhow, ...
>
> Think about what you wrote: the battle of the
> fighters that beat Marg. What's that all about?
> Let's break that down. You want the two fighters that
> ALREADY beat Margarito, to fight each other. Then and
> only then will the winner deserve the right or
> opportunity to beat- up Margarito again?
>
> Somethin about that just doesn't sound right. It
> sounds like somethin Bob Arum would suggest, protect
> Margarito from PW and another sure loss, while
> you're lookin & hopin that Daniel Santos can do to
> Paul what you know Margarito can't do.
>
> You say you got Santos easy??First you gotta get
> Santos in the ring. Daniel Santos is NOT tryin to get
> a fight with Paul Williams. If he were, Paul would
> have heard from Daniel Santos by now; wouldn't you
> think?
>
> Paul's victory over Margarito wasn't exactly a
> devastat- tating win, but the important thing is:
> Paul KNOWS how to beat Margarito and make you believe
> it.
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i am not playing any arum tricks. its just that if willaims fans think williams is all that, put up or shut up.
santos beats williams easy. williams has no chin, he is slow, has bad footwork and can be out boxed by a good boxer. quintana showed that.
williams can not beat a skilled fighter. he can give marg hell because of his style, but that is it.
willaims has not accomplishments on his resume to speak to anything about his boxing. If santos has still to prove something, as some are saying, then williams has about 10 yrs of proving to do, cause williams was not even AWARDED, as you say, a bronze medal.
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Aug 25, 2008 12:12 PM
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> OK LETS TALK ABOUT DANEIL SANTOS , SANTOS FIRST FIGHT
> AGAINST MARGARITO YOU COULD SEE IN SANTOS FACE HE WAS
> PRAYING THAT THEY STOP THE FIGHT ON THE 9TH ROUND
> BECAUSE I SAW A KNOCKOUT COMING IF NOT A DECISION WON
> BY MARGARITO YOU HAVE TO ADMIT YOU SEEN WORSE CUT
> THEN THE ONE MARGARITO HAD AND ALSO THE FRESHER
> R FIGHTER WAS MARGARITO IF SANTOS FIGHTS MARGARITO
> NOW, MARGARITO WILL WIN. REMEMBER MARGARITO WAS
> DENIED, WHAT WAS REALLY HIS AND THAT WAS ALLOW TO
> PROVE HIMSELF IN THE RING
if thats true, then why didn't he fight him again, and why didn he leave the SWW?
its cause he realized he was going to have it tough up there. he knew he couldn't take much of what santos gave him. Not with his fighting style.
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> > Do you know how the olympic tournament is
> run???
> >
> > First Round
> >
> > Daniel Santos, Puerto Rico def. Ernest Atangana
> Mboa,
> > Cameroon, RSC-1 (02:54)
> > Second Round
> >
> > Daniel Santos, Puerto Rico def. Kabil Lahsen,
> > Morocco, 16-4
> >
> > quarter finals
> > Daniel Santos, Puerto Rico def. Nariman Atayev,
> > Uzbekistan, 28-15
> >
> >
> > Semifinals
> > Juan Hernández Sierra, Cuba def. Marian Simion,
> > Romania, 20-7
> > Oleg Saitov, Russia def. Daniel Santos, Puerto
> Rico,
> > 13-11
> >
> > Final
> > Oleg Saitov, Russia def. Juan Hernández Sierra,
> Cuba,
> > 14-9
> >
> >
> > the bronze is won. he may not have beaten the
> silver
> > and gold medalist but he beat more than one
> fighter
> > to get the bronze.
> >
> > --
> > I came
> > I saw
> > and I conquered
> >
> > --
> > Edited by cargilb1 at 08/24/2008 8:47 PM PDT
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> If you knew the history of the Olympic games you
> wouldn't look at it like that. You'd put that bronze
> in it's proper perspective. It's like a default metal
> for reaching the simi finals and LOSING. No true
> Olympic purist is gonna recognize your bronze metal
> and you won't be getting calls for endorsements. It's
> a no-nothin metal.
>
> How many people remember the person that was given
> the bronze metal??
>
> You don't fight for the bronze or the silver for that
> matter, you fight in anticipation of winning the gold
> metal. If you don't win the gold in the finals they
> give you the silver as runner-up. The top spot
> (gold)is the only one that really counts. You can
> look at it like he won somethin if you wish, but
> nobody, and I do mean no-body is tryin to win a
> bronze metal. They "give it to the third place
> finisher." that is all. It's liken to a conso- lation
> prize on a game show. LOL
>
> It's like a default metal for losing/reaching the
> simi finals.
>
> I'm merely usin the same analogy that Floyd
> Mayweather uses when he discusses his own Olympic
> bronze metal, yes he was also given the bronze metal
> by default.
>
> Heck, there use to be a time when there was no-such
> thing as a bronze metal. Bronze say's you got to the
> simi-finals and lost. Who's gonna pay a bronze metal
> winner for an endorsement? NOBODY, cause it really
> doesn't mean jak.
>
>
> From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia:
>
> A bronze medal is a medal awarded to the third place
> finisher of contests (typically athletics
> competitions) such as the Olympic Games, Commonwealth
> Games, etc. The practice of awarding bronze third
> place medals began at the 1904 Olympic Games in
> St.Louis Missouri, prior to which only first and
> second places were awarded.
hey just cause people don'tpay attention to the brionze medalist doiesn't mean the guy is not a good fighter.
Evander Holyfield was a bronze medal winner, or recepient in your OPINION. it is short sighted to assume that a brionze medal winner can't achieve. first off you might be a 19 yr old kids fighting some professional olympic boxer from the cuban team or the russian team.
Anyway tell evander and the people that enjoyed his career that the brionze means trhe fighter is not to be payed attention too or given any credit.
Any what does this have to do with anything. Santos is still the toughest opponent for marg any day.
And the idea that santos wouldn't fight williams is unfounded. BACK THAT UP WITH A QUOTE.
Santos is talking about fighting pavlik. If pavlik doesnn't scare him, willliams ain't scaring him eotither.
And Williams is easily outboxed as was proven. Let williams priove he can beat a boxer before you go off half cocked claiming he is the greatest.
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IMO Daniel Santos was stolen the chance of fighting for the Gold Medal in the 1996 Olympics...Damn System.
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Aug 25, 2008 6:26 AM
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> Do you know how the olympic tournament is run???
>
> First Round
>
> Daniel Santos, Puerto Rico def. Ernest Atangana Mboa,
> Cameroon, RSC-1 (02:54)
> Second Round
>
> Daniel Santos, Puerto Rico def. Kabil Lahsen,
> Morocco, 16-4
>
> quarter finals
> Daniel Santos, Puerto Rico def. Nariman Atayev,
> Uzbekistan, 28-15
>
>
> Semifinals
> Juan Hernández Sierra, Cuba def. Marian Simion,
> Romania, 20-7
> Oleg Saitov, Russia def. Daniel Santos, Puerto Rico,
> 13-11
>
> Final
> Oleg Saitov, Russia def. Juan Hernández Sierra, Cuba,
> 14-9
>
>
> the bronze is won. he may not have beaten the silver
> and gold medalist but he beat more than one fighter
> to get the bronze.
>
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> I came
> I saw
> and I conquered
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If you knew the history of the Olympic games you wouldn't look at it like that. You'd put that bronze in it's proper perspective. It's like a default metal for reaching the simi finals and LOSING. No true Olympic purist is gonna recognize your bronze metal and you won't be getting calls for endorsements. It's a no-nothin metal.
How many people remember the person that was given the bronze metal??
You don't fight for the bronze or the silver for that matter, you fight in anticipation of winning the gold metal. If you don't win the gold in the finals they give you the silver as runner-up. The top spot (gold)is the only one that really counts. You can look at it like he won somethin if you wish, but nobody, and I do mean no-body is tryin to win a bronze metal. They "give it to the third place finisher." that is all. It's liken to a conso- lation prize on a game show. LOL
It's like a default metal for losing/reaching the simi finals.
I'm merely usin the same analogy that Floyd Mayweather uses when he discusses his own Olympic bronze metal, yes he was also given the bronze metal by default.
Heck, there use to be a time when there was no-such thing as a bronze metal. Bronze say's you got to the simi-finals and lost. Who's gonna pay a bronze metal winner for an endorsement? NOBODY, cause it really doesn't mean jak.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia:
A bronze medal is a medal awarded to the third place finisher of contests (typically athletics competitions) such as the Olympic Games, Commonwealth Games, etc. The practice of awarding bronze third place medals began at the 1904 Olympic Games in St.Louis Missouri, prior to which only first and second places were awarded.
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