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http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=23138 That would MOST DEFINETLY SHAKE THINGS UP!!! Chad Dawson is willing to step up to the plate..and you know what fellas: I got him taking it all. Way to step up America's young Lions: Williams, Dawson, Mayweather, Ward! Thoughts on Dawson joining guys ? Can it happen ? And if he's entered - do you also see him taking it ?
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Re: Dawson wants in on the "Super - Six"
Nov 2, 2009 10:44 AM
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::::::::::::::::::::::::I hear ya Gluvs. The key to beating Hopkins is to stay busy. If you sit and try and strategize, You'll lose, If you try and use defense and walk him down, you'll lose and if you're slow, you'll lose.
Hopkins is a sneaky fighter so you have to constantly throw at him to keep him at bay. Dawson can definately do that. especially if Taylor can.
To Taylor's defense, he's still a good fighter with great offense. If he had anything else to complement his offensive attack, he'd be at the top, period. Since he doesn't, he only beats some.
I think Ward shocks the world and wins it all, or loses to Abraham.::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
Boxing righted itself and continues to do so in Taylor's case... He was given gift decisions over Hopkins, has shown zero improvement, has zero analytical skills, no recovery, no chin, limited defense and now has been KO'D 3 times by good (but not great) fighters....
Folks been holding it down but Jermain was done from the first KO by Pavlik imo...
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Re: Dawson wants in on the "Super - Six"
Nov 2, 2009 9:26 AM
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> I think that would be great for Boxing too if Dawson
> did manage to get into the Super Six, no disrespect
> to Jermain Taylor but at this stage with a bunch of
> losses in a row, I think an opponent like Dawson
> could really shake up the tournament and make the
> competition tougher. Dawson still has to get by
> Johnson though so we'll see what happens.
Also HBO has options on the next Dawson fight. HBO paid a LOT of money for that junk Dawson-Tarver rematch to get Chad onto the network. The Super Six has been a PR godsend for the archrival boxing network. HBO might let Chad walk, but it sure as hell won't be for that. I think the first preference is for Chad's growth into stardom to be on HBO. I think Chad fighting the Bute-Andrade winner or the winner of the Pascal-Diaconu rematch (especially if its Pascal) is far more likely a scenario.
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Re: Dawson wants in on the "Super - Six"
Nov 1, 2009 12:36 AM
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Beating up smaller guys to win acclaim is all the rage these days. The only guy out there kicking the shit outta bigger guys and doing it impressively is Pac.
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Re: Dawson wants in on the "Super - Six"
Nov 1, 2009 12:10 AM
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Dawson loses to Hopkins. He will be forced to go to
> Hopkins and will walk into numerous sneak rights. He
> doesn't have the power or awkwardness to trouble
> Bernard.
Anyone care to explain the Taylor fights ?
I hear ya Gluvs. The key to beating Hopkins is to stay busy. If you sit and try and strategize, You'll lose, If you try and use defense and walk him down, you'll lose and if you're slow, you'll lose.
Hopkins is a sneaky fighter so you have to constantly throw at him to keep him at bay. Dawson can definately do that. especially if Taylor can.
To Taylor's defense, he's still a good fighter with great offense. If he had anything else to complement his offensive attack, he'd be at the top, period. Since he doesn't, he only beats some.
I think Ward shocks the world and wins it all, or loses to Abraham.
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Re: Dawson wants in on the "Super - Six"
Oct 31, 2009 9:21 AM
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I think that would be great for Boxing too if Dawson did manage to get into the Super Six, no disrespect to Jermain Taylor but at this stage with a bunch of losses in a row, I think an opponent like Dawson could really shake up the tournament and make the competition tougher. Dawson still has to get by Johnson though so we'll see what happens.
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Re: Dawson wants in on the "Super - Six"
Oct 31, 2009 7:28 AM
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> Dawson loses to Hopkins. He will be forced to go to
> Hopkins and will walk into numerous sneak rights. He
> doesn't have the power or awkwardness to trouble
> Bernard.
Anyone care to explain the Taylor fights ?
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Re: Dawson wants in on the "Super - Six"
Oct 30, 2009 6:11 PM
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> We're talking hypotheticals here. But i'm not ruling
> out a fight Vs Dawson completely.
IMO, X has gotten a little too choosey for Dawson to sit around and wait on him. If I'm Dawson, I'm calling out P-Dub at 170, a rematch with Adamek for the cruiser title, or the Bute-Andrade II winner at light heavy after I'm done with Johnson.
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Re: Dawson wants in on the "Super - Six"
Oct 30, 2009 5:49 PM
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HBO has option on Chad's next fight ... good luck with that
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Re: Dawson wants in on the "Super - Six"
Oct 30, 2009 5:44 PM
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> > I thought the same thing for a while. But after
> I
> > rewatched his fight with Ian Garnder from a few
> years
> > ago, i'm in agreement with Jabs.
> >
> > Dawson can't handle movers. Ian Gardner was a
> mover
> > but not a effective one. He made Dawson look
> > ordinary, none of the skills he displayed vs
> Tarver
> > or Adamek.
> >
> > B-Hop would pick him apart with side to side
> movement
> > and win a comfortable decision IMO.
> >
> > --
> > Edited by CroatianSensation at 10/30/2009 2:35
> PM PDT
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> Well if X is gonna beat him, he better hurry up.
> Because he's about 45 now. I wouldn't think that
> t fighting a big, strong, fast, skilled, and more
> importantly primed southpaw like Dawson is in the
> best interest of a guy who's closer to 50 than he is
> 40.
We're talking hypotheticals here. But i'm not ruling out a fight Vs Dawson completely.
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Re: Dawson wants in on the "Super - Six"
Oct 30, 2009 5:40 PM
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> I thought the same thing for a while. But after I
> rewatched his fight with Ian Garnder from a few years
> ago, i'm in agreement with Jabs.
>
> Dawson can't handle movers. Ian Gardner was a mover
> but not a effective one. He made Dawson look
> ordinary, none of the skills he displayed vs Tarver
> or Adamek.
>
> B-Hop would pick him apart with side to side movement
> and win a comfortable decision IMO.
>
> --
> Edited by CroatianSensation at 10/30/2009 2:35 PM PDT
Well if X is gonna beat him, he better hurry up. Because he's about 45 now. I wouldn't think that fighting a big, strong, fast, skilled, and more importantly primed southpaw like Dawson is in the best interest of a guy who's closer to 50 than he is 40.
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Re: Dawson wants in on the "Super - Six"
Oct 30, 2009 5:34 PM
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> > > Dawson loses to Hopkins. He will be forced
> to go
> > to
> > > Hopkins and will walk into numerous sneak
> > rights. He
> > > doesn't have the power or awkwardness to
> > trouble
> > > Bernard.
> >
> > Agreed
>
> I believe Dawson is a bigger, faster, stronger, more
> technically sound Jermain Taylor, and he comes from
> the wrong direction. X has trouble with athletic
> fighters. I think Dawson beats him in a close
> decision in a ugly fight.
I thought the same thing for a while. But after I rewatched his fight with Ian Garnder from a few years ago, i'm in agreement with Jabs.
Dawson can't handle movers. Ian Gardner was a mover but not a effective one. He made Dawson look ordinary, none of the skills he displayed vs Tarver or Adamek.
B-Hop would pick him apart with side to side movement and win a comfortable decision IMO.
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Re: Dawson wants in on the "Super - Six"
Oct 30, 2009 5:26 PM
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> > BTW - Me picking Dawson to beat the hell out of
> all
> > the 168lb champions in the tournament, doesn't
> mean I
> > take back any of the comments I made about his
> > defensive lapses or marshmellow chin: It
> just
> > means I don't hold the other competitors in too
> high
> > regard.
> >
> > Simple concept really............
>
> Man, this is a tough f*cking crowd! 
>
> Seriously, do you guys think there is just 1 good
> fighter in boxing? Come on! Chad Dawson is a bad
> motherfucker! He's got a shit chin, but the guy is
> very, VERY good.
Chad's main competition would be Ward and Dirrell. Not because they are American, because he is a gifted athlete and can sustain his effort. I don't see Johnson winning.
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Re: Dawson wants in on the "Super - Six"
Oct 30, 2009 5:18 PM
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> BTW - Me picking Dawson to beat the hell out of all
> the 168lb champions in the tournament, doesn't mean I
> take back any of the comments I made about his
> defensive lapses or marshmellow chin: It just
> means I don't hold the other competitors in too high
> regard.
>
> Simple concept really............
Man, this is a tough f*cking crowd!
Seriously, do you guys think there is just 1 good fighter in boxing? Come on! Chad Dawson is a bad motherfucker! He's got a shit chin, but the guy is very, VERY good.
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Re: Dawson wants in on the "Super - Six"
Oct 30, 2009 1:41 PM
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> > > > Dawson cuts 7lbs to get in this
> > tourney....he'll
> > > get
> > > > destroyed. Go see Prince Charles
> Williams
> > and
> > > Don
> > > > LaLonde doing that same thing...they
> were
> > > emaciated,
> > > > weakened.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Dawson is not good enough to cut that
> kind
> > of
> > > weight
> > > > and beat a guy like Kessler.
> > >
> > > Dawson has claimed to have entered LHW
> bouts at
> > > 172.
> > >
> > > He claims that it wouldn't affect him at
> all.
> > I'll
> > > take his world for it..........
> > >
> > > --
> > > Edited by GoldenGluvs at 10/30/2009 8:52 AM
> PDT
> >
> > ...and what he'll claim after he loses is that
> it
> > t drained him to fight at 168, guaranteed. At
> least I
> > can beleive that.
>
> The setup (Dawson entering the Tournament) doesn't
> interest you ?
>
> You'd rather see him fight Glenn Johnson (*Hooray*)
> and all the other duds at LHW (Minus Hopkins whom I
> dont' think will EVER face him) ?
I thought Dawson beat Johnson convincingly. Johnson fought well enough and landed some nice shots, but thats is. The judges got it right. Fans got too happy and felt there needed to be a rematch. Dawson will do the same thing he did their last fight, so will Johnson and Dawson will win again.
Any fight with major fighters is intriging. Who wouldnt want to see Dawson vs Kessler, but Dawson is in a good position. He is young. His top competitors are almost out the door, and if Hopkins doesnt want to fight him, all he has to do is keep winning. The fights will come to him at 175lbs. After the tournament is over. These guys are going to need a dance partner
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Re: Dawson wants in on the "Super - Six"
Oct 30, 2009 1:25 PM
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> I think that when Dawson first stepped up and started
> fighting world class competition, it was at
> middleweight. And I believe I can recall him winning
> a couple regional titles at super middle, so its not
> like he's a career light heavyweight. That being
> said, I don't think him dropping down would be a good
> idea. He seems to have filled into a solid light
> heavy, and draining himself for the sake of chasing
> big fights might be a big mistake. I think he needs
> to wait it out, and if he can't get the Jones-Hopkins
> II winner to fight him. Maybe the winner of the
> Super Six would be interested in coming up and
> fighting him at light heavy.
I agree. Dawson is young. If he stays consistant. The fights will come to him. Beat Johnson, Try to get the fight with Roy or Hop and establish yourself as the top dog in the division. Guys like Cloud and Pascal I'm pretty sure want a crack at him.
Eventually a lot of these guys like Ward, Dirrell, Kessler will want to come to 175 for a big fight. Dont chase them let them come to you
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