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Which of the two do you think, gives him a bigger winning chance? A) Be the agressor, plodding forward, throwing his bodypunches trying to break Manny down B) Counterpunching approach. Take what he learned from the JMM/Pacquiao fights and apply it, moving around waiting for the counter (I.E. he did some of that vs Mosley) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pg7CIhO2GkQ -- Edited by CroatianSensation at 10/25/2009 3:01 PM PDT
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Re: Which of the two gameplans should Cotto apply against Pacquiao?
Nov 10, 2009 11:15 AM
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> > Cotto aint 5'10/5'11 like Oscar was so I don't
> think
> > Pac will be doing as much in and out stuff as he
> did
> > against ODH. Cotto's stiff jab will keep Pac at
> bay
> > until Manny gets frustrated says "f*ck this",
> turns
> > on the after burners and jumps him. Thats when
> Manny
> > gets decked and, well, you know the rest.
>
> When has a JAB ever kept Manny at bay?
Barrera had an excellent left jab, and an excellent left hand in general. He did very little to Manny with that.
Manny has had trouble with guys who fire a lot of rights (Morales and especially JMM), more than anything.
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Re: Which of the two gameplans should Cotto apply against Pacquiao?
Nov 10, 2009 10:50 AM
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> Cotto aint 5'10/5'11 like Oscar was so I don't think
> Pac will be doing as much in and out stuff as he did
> against ODH. Cotto's stiff jab will keep Pac at bay
> until Manny gets frustrated says "f*ck this", turns
> on the after burners and jumps him. Thats when Manny
> gets decked and, well, you know the rest.
When has a JAB ever kept Manny at bay?
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Re: Which of the two gameplans should Cotto apply against Pacquiao?
Nov 10, 2009 10:16 AM
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>
> BTW - I think Mayweather handles Mosely alot easier
> than most anticipate.
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> That performance against margarito has people losing
> their minds.....Mosely couldn't keep up with Floyd
> and his legendary "power" is
> non-existant.
>
> Loading up with bombs dropping on a stationary target
> like Margarito , DOES NOT equate to putting hands on
> lil Floyd....
For sure Gluvs. I think Tony was less hungry after beating Cotto and that whole hand taping shit before the fight may have thrown him off. I don't think this fight will ever happen though and we'll have to listen to Shane pout
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Re: Which of the two gameplans should Cotto apply against Pacquiao?
Nov 10, 2009 7:21 AM
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> The question was how would Mayweather fare against
> t those 4 named opponents. Most people would agree
> it's likely he comes out victorious over all 4.
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> I would expect him to win all 4.
Exactly.
All the other shit was irrelevant.
I'd fully expect Floyd to beat all 4 men, w/ Pacqiao and Cotto receiving the worst of all 4 beatings.
BTW - I think Mayweather handles Mosely alot easier than most anticipate.
That performance against margarito has people losing their minds.....Mosely couldn't keep up with Floyd and his legendary "power" is non-existant.
Loading up with bombs dropping on a stationary target like Margarito , DOES NOT equate to putting hands on lil Floyd....
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Re: Which of the two gameplans should Cotto apply against Pacquiao?
Nov 10, 2009 2:46 AM
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> After he loses to Manny maybe he can put a major beat
> down on Marquez and seal the deal on his legacy.
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Pacman vs. Marquez after the Cotto fight is distinct possibility, as a manifestation of Pacman's generosity in order to provide Marquez with some retirement money... 
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Re: Which of the two gameplans should Cotto apply against Pacquiao?
Nov 10, 2009 12:19 AM
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> > Wow. What is your prediction of Floyd vs King
> Kong
> > Bundy?
>
> Andy
> Kaufman would have KILLED them both
>
> Seriously
LMAO. Go Latka.
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Re: Which of the two gameplans should Cotto apply against Pacquiao?
Nov 9, 2009 9:38 PM
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> Wow. What is your prediction of Floyd vs King Kong
> Bundy?
Andy Kaufman would have KILLED them both
Seriously
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Re: Which of the two gameplans should Cotto apply against Pacquiao?
Nov 9, 2009 9:32 PM
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> "What is your prediction of Floyd vs King Kong
> Bundy?"
>
> That's silly, we saw what happened to the Big Show
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> The jacked up part is Cotto has already faced the
> mentioned top WW's so theres no need to speculate or
> imagine.
After he loses to Manny maybe he can put a major beat down on Marquez and seal the deal on his legacy.
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Re: Which of the two gameplans should Cotto apply against Pacquiao?
Nov 9, 2009 9:24 PM
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"What is your prediction of Floyd vs King Kong Bundy?"
That's silly, we saw what happened to the Big Show
The jacked up part is Cotto has already faced the mentioned top WW's so theres no need to speculate or imagine.
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Re: Which of the two gameplans should Cotto apply against Pacquiao?
Nov 9, 2009 7:43 PM
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> Floyd/Margarito- Will look like Floyd/Baldomir; it'll
> be incredibly boring, Floyd wins an easy but dreadful
> to watch UD.
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> Floyd/Clottey & Floyd/Quintana will look somewhat
> similiar; except Quintana doesn't see the final bell,
> Floyd wins decisively against both.
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> Floyd/Mosley- Very interesting fight, should be a
> close fight; with Floyd winning by a round or 2.
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> Floyd/Pacquiao- IF Pacquiao doesn't KO Floyd within 5
> rounds; Floyd tears Pacquiao apart and KO's him
> around the mid-rounds.
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> Floyd keeps his 0, and would be at least a 2:1
> favourite against any of the above fighters.
Wow. What is your prediction of Floyd vs King Kong Bundy?
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Re: Which of the two gameplans should Cotto apply against Pacquiao?
Nov 9, 2009 7:41 PM
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Floyd/Margarito- Will look like Floyd/Baldomir; it'll be incredibly boring, Floyd wins an easy but dreadful to watch UD.
Floyd/Clottey & Floyd/Quintana will look somewhat similiar; except Quintana doesn't see the final bell, Floyd wins decisively against both.
Floyd/Mosley- Very interesting fight, should be a close fight; with Floyd winning by a round or 2.
Floyd/Pacquiao- IF Pacquiao doesn't KO Floyd within 5 rounds; Floyd tears Pacquiao apart and KO's him around the mid-rounds.
Floyd keeps his 0, and would be at least a 2:1 favourite against any of the above fighters.
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Re: Which of the two gameplans should Cotto apply against Pacquiao?
Nov 9, 2009 6:23 PM
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> If Mayweather fought the same fighters as Cotto, I
> don't think he makes it past the Margarito fight
> ...... especially facing potentially loaded gloves.
I also dont think Mayweather would beat Margarito(because Money cant knock him out and Margarito would eat anything he throws at him to land his,while tiring Money out),or Mosley(no explanation needed here! this dude is solid).
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Re: Which of the two gameplans should Cotto apply against Pacquiao?
Nov 9, 2009 5:08 PM
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Mayweather
VS Margarito - Corrales-esque minus the countless knockdowns, Margarito would be outclassed. Everything Cotto did in the early rounds, boxing, moving, landing on Marga's face all night long. Everything except getting plastered in the late rounds.
Vs Clottey - another UD. Clottey is too stationary, a poor man's Winky Wright without the great jab or size. Countless jabs to the mid-section Floyd style, pick and choose his shots here and there when Clottey opens up.
Vs Quintana - Quintana's awkardness could present some problems early. But Floyd eventually figures him out like he did Sharmba Mithell & Judah (two other movers/boxers) and maybe even TKO's him. I can't say, i'm still not sure about Floyd's power at 147 even though he did TKO sharmba with a bodyhot & TKO'd Hatton to the face.
Vs Mosley - I said this before, this is Floyd's toughest fight. Both Pacquiao & Floyd are better off facing each other than Mosley. Too strong for both but has speed & punching power on top of that. Hasn't shown signs of getting tired either and has a solid chin. FLOYD BY SPLIT DECISION IF I HAD TO CHOOSE.
Vs Pacquiao - A brutal beatdown by Floyd. Pacquiao's fighting style just wouldn't be a problem even though he has speed. Floyd would make him look even more awkward slipping and sliding to the side, keeping Pacman off balance all night long while tagging him. Floyd By TKO in 9 or 10.
....Croat over and out...
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Re: Which of the two gameplans should Cotto apply against Pacquiao?
Nov 9, 2009 5:08 PM
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If Mayweather fought the same fighters as Cotto, I don't think he makes it past the Margarito fight ...... especially facing potentially loaded gloves.
I think Floyd drops down in weight or possibly retires after an absolute mauling by the cheat.
He'd be in tatters and unfit or too traumatised to face Mosley or Clottey.
There'd be no hiding place for Floyd against Margarito ...... he doesn't have enough pop to fend him off and even his slickness and ringcraft means zilch in this. Yes Antonio would look like a donkey at times as he misses wildly and frequently, .... but he would be unfazed and relentless and far too strong for Mayweather. IMO, he catches Floyd in a corner, winds him and then finishes it brutally.
But hey, ....... Floyd's too smart to ever take that chance.
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Re: Which of the two gameplans should Cotto apply against Pacquiao?
Nov 9, 2009 4:21 PM
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> I was reading somewhere that Cotto's handlers will be
> taking extra precaution in checking Pacquiao's gloves
> before the fight. I guess he feels everybody must
> need to load up the gloves against him.
Well, he is the destroyer of destroyers.
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