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Which of the two do you think, gives him a bigger winning chance? A) Be the agressor, plodding forward, throwing his bodypunches trying to break Manny down B) Counterpunching approach. Take what he learned from the JMM/Pacquiao fights and apply it, moving around waiting for the counter (I.E. he did some of that vs Mosley) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pg7CIhO2GkQ -- Edited by CroatianSensation at 10/25/2009 3:01 PM PDT
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Re: Which of the two gameplans should Cotto apply against Pacquiao?
Nov 10, 2009 4:45 PM
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> Cotto would have thrashed him, exactly. Then I really
> don't wanna hear about Hatton or even DLH for that
> matter (Cotto woulda thrashed a sucked up Oscar as
> well at 147) when it comes to comparing them to what
> Manny's gonna face on the 14th. If they're basing
> their opinion on this upcoming fight on those 2
> fighters than people have no logical basis imo on why
> Manny is gonna run through Cotto.
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> They're mearly just praying he gets past Cotto for
> the sake of their precious dreamfight with Foyd.
I guess we'll never know if Cotto would have thrashed Hatton becasue he never attempted to fight the champ. Actually, Cotto did a lot of avoiding the top guys in his 140 days.
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Re: Which of the two gameplans should Cotto apply against Pacquiao?
Nov 10, 2009 4:41 PM
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Cotto would have thrashed him, exactly. Then I really don't wanna hear about Hatton or even DLH for that matter (Cotto woulda thrashed a sucked up Oscar as well at 147) when it comes to comparing them to what Manny's gonna face on the 14th. If they're basing their opinion on this upcoming fight on those 2 fighters than people have no logical basis imo on why Manny is gonna run through Cotto.
They're mearly just praying he gets past Cotto for the sake of their precious dreamfight with Foyd.
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Re: Which of the two gameplans should Cotto apply against Pacquiao?
Nov 10, 2009 4:34 PM
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> Lineal shmineal, Hatton was a f*cking joke. Are you
> saying Cotto wouldn't have thrashed him?
Hatton made Kostya Tsyzu quit on his stool, he's far from a joke. Some things are facts and some things are opinions. Fact, Hatton was the real 140 champ when Cotto was in the division. Fact, Cotto never hinted that he wanted a piece of the champ in his division. Opinion, Hatton was a joke. Opinion, Cotto would have thrashed him.
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Re: Which of the two gameplans should Cotto apply against Pacquiao?
Nov 10, 2009 4:29 PM
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Lineal shmineal, Hatton was a f*cking joke. Are you saying Cotto wouldn't have thrashed him?
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Re: Which of the two gameplans should Cotto apply against Pacquiao?
Nov 10, 2009 4:28 PM
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> > Hell hell hell no.
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> > Marquez jab is way better then Mab.
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> > period.
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> Marquez doesn't JUST THROW JABS. The jab is almost
> ALWAYS accompanied by a right hand. Hell, I think he
> throws more lead rights than he does jabs.
He would at fighting any southpaw.
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Re: Which of the two gameplans should Cotto apply against Pacquiao?
Nov 10, 2009 4:25 PM
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> Why aint Cotto ever get a piece of Hatton? I woulda
> loved to have seen Cotto punish Hatton up and down
> the ring for about 4 to 5 rounds of torture. They fed
> him to Mayweather and Pac instead. Mayweather clowned
> him and KO'd him in 10, Manny was on a straight
> shock and awe campaign and knocked him out cold in 2
> rounds flat, but Cotto woulda had Ricky taking knees
> left and right and begging for his corner to throw in
> the towel.
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> I hate it when people bring up Hatton and try to
> compare him to what Manny is about to face in Cotto.
> Cotto is waaaay better than Hatton all the way around.
Actually, Hatton won the lineal 140 title during Cotto's stint in the division. Cotto never publicly mentioned wanting a shot at the title. Not fighting Hatton is definitely a blemish on Cotto's resume.
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Re: Which of the two gameplans should Cotto apply against Pacquiao?
Nov 10, 2009 4:22 PM
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Why aint Cotto ever get a piece of Hatton? I woulda loved to have seen Cotto punish Hatton up and down the ring for about 4 to 5 rounds of torture. They fed him to Mayweather and Pac instead. Mayweather clowned him and KO'd him in 10, Manny was on a straight shock and awe campaign and knocked him out cold in 2 rounds flat, but Cotto woulda had Ricky taking knees left and right and begging for his corner to throw in the towel.
I hate it when people bring up Hatton and try to compare him to what Manny is about to face in Cotto. Cotto is waaaay better than Hatton all the way around.
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Re: Which of the two gameplans should Cotto apply against Pacquiao?
Nov 10, 2009 4:11 PM
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> > > I think Cotto has a stronger jab than any
> of
> > the
> > > super-featherweights mentioned here.
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> sense....
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> ....and you would've thought Ricky Hatton 's chin
> n was stronger than every little dude Manny's fought
> this decade. Manny put hatton to sleep, something he
> couldn't do to any of those little guys.
Hatton put to sleep is an understatement.....he looked like he was DEAD from that last punch.....
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Re: Which of the two gameplans should Cotto apply against Pacquiao?
Nov 10, 2009 4:07 PM
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> > I think Cotto has a stronger jab than any of
> the
> > super-featherweights mentioned here.
sense....
....and you would've thought Ricky Hatton 's chin was stronger than every little dude Manny's fought this decade. Manny put hatton to sleep, something he couldn't do to any of those little guys.
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Re: Which of the two gameplans should Cotto apply against Pacquiao?
Nov 10, 2009 3:59 PM
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> I think Cotto has a stronger jab than any of the
> super-featherweights mentioned here.
LOL!
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Re: Which of the two gameplans should Cotto apply against Pacquiao?
Nov 10, 2009 3:59 PM
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> The jab I think will devastate Pac. Cotto has
> strength and size on his side not to mention his
> strong hand (left) is held out in front which will
> probably get to Pac's face before Pac's left hand
> gets to his. That along with the power his jabs pack
> are to me why he's able to time faster fighters and
> disrupt their rythm so effectively and will
> ultimately lead to a victory for Cotto.
That may happen......past fights of Cotto's and Pacquaio offer no evidence that I have seen to suggest it will though.....
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Re: Which of the two gameplans should Cotto apply against Pacquiao?
Nov 10, 2009 3:55 PM
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The jab I think will devastate Pac. Cotto has strength and size on his side not to mention his strong hand (left) is held out in front which will probably get to Pac's face before Pac's left hand gets to his. That along with the power his jabs pack are to me why he's able to time faster fighters and disrupt their rythm so effectively and will ultimately lead to a victory for Cotto.
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Re: Which of the two gameplans should Cotto apply against Pacquiao?
Nov 10, 2009 3:43 PM
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> I think Cotto has a stronger jab than any of the
> super-featherweights mentioned here.
Of course he does.
But, it's not faster.....and it being stronger does not mean it gets to the kind of awkward lefty, Pacquiao.
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Re: Which of the two gameplans should Cotto apply against Pacquiao?
Nov 10, 2009 3:42 PM
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> The jab is a moot fucking point. Marquez kept
> Pacquaio at bay by throwing combinations, turning and
> TIMING Pacman's rushes. I don't see Cotto being able
> to do that.....
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> wrong again.
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> Marquez open every single combo with very good jab.
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> and Cotto having a great jab great timing and Cotto
> being counter puncher i think he take beyond what
> marquez did.
Really?
How many of these combos started with jabs VS right hands or hooks?
The left hook that Marquez landed that staggered Pacquaio was preceded by a RIGHT HAND.
For Marquez the jab wasn't NEARLY as important to his offense as it is for Barrera.
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Re: Which of the two gameplans should Cotto apply against Pacquiao?
Nov 10, 2009 3:41 PM
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I think Cotto has a stronger jab than any of the super-featherweights mentioned here.
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