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Whats up fight fans. The Liverpuncher Fantasy League is steam rolling ahead this season week after week with great match ups. Marquez vs Vazquez 3 is probably the toughest to predict and will separate the knowledgeable fight fans from those who just talk trash. Get your prediction in for this fight in the league. Its free and a cool way to test your knowledge. The league will keep track of your record and give a prize to the champ at the end of the season. here is what fight fans are saying thus far on liverpuncher or get your prediction in here
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Re: Marquez vs Vazquez Predictions
May 2, 2008 7:13 PM
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> I have no picks on these two, but I know they won't
> let me down on a good battle. These guys come to
> fight!
I'm picking Marquez in the first fight and Vazquez in the second and third fights myself. 
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Re: Marquez vs Vazquez Predictions
May 2, 2008 7:02 PM
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I have no picks on these two, but I know they won't let me down on a good battle. These guys come to fight!
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Re: Marquez vs Vazquez Predictions
Mar 3, 2008 2:01 PM
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whats up fight fans. if you missed the fight you can check out the video of the 12th round here . This will wash out the bad taste of the klitchko fight from the week before.
Also, check out all the folks who accurately predicted a vazquez win by decision
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Re: Marquez vs Vazquez Predictions
Mar 3, 2008 11:47 AM
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> I want to pick Rafy...he is one of my favorites, and
> i think he'll have an easier time landing than
> Vazquez. But, i also think that when Israel lands,
> he'll have more impact than Rafy. I think he'll make
> his way in and do that leading with the right hand,
> upstairs and downstairs, and following it with the
> left hook. Once the hook lands, the dynamic of the
> fight will change and swing to him.
Great post tote to toe. Looks like you called it perfectly.
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Re: Marquez vs Vazquez Predictions
Mar 3, 2008 11:46 AM
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> Man I've been flippin back and forth about this fight
> the past week. I originally felt Vasquez will win but
> I'm going with Marquez. I think thats one of those
> heart over head decisions I'm making.
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> I don't know if anyone caught Al Berstein on Jim
> ROme's show on ESPN but he was saying Vasquez is just
> naturally more powerful at that weight than Marquez.
> If Marquez fights the same grueling slugfest it could
> be a disadvantage and I agree.
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> I know Marquez is no slouch either and pretty
> powerful himself but I did notice in the second fight
> that Vasquez seemed to have more zip.
gottta listen to head next time. Marquez try to box in this fight and it worked for a while because he banked in some early rounds but he faded down the stretch. Vasquez punches can do that to a fighter. Great, Great overall fight.
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Re: Marquez vs Vazquez Predictions
Feb 29, 2008 11:25 AM
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I want to pick Rafy...he is one of my favorites, and i think he'll have an easier time landing than Vazquez. But, i also think that when Israel lands, he'll have more impact than Rafy. I think he'll make his way in and do that leading with the right hand, upstairs and downstairs, and following it with the left hook. Once the hook lands, the dynamic of the fight will change and swing to him.
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Re: Marquez vs Vazquez Predictions
Feb 29, 2008 10:55 AM
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Marquez wins, no doubt in my mind.
Actually there are a few doubts, but if he does what he can do, which is box unleash his right hand and keep Vazquez from getting on the inside he can win. Like I've said before, he Marquez would learn to clinch every once in a while this would be a much easier fight for him.
One of the reasons why I don't think Vazquez will win is b/c you're asking this guy to go inside, more than likely absorbe a few right hands on the way in, then start tradig leather and hope that you can withstand more than the other guy. He did it before, but I don't think he'll be able to do it again.
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Re: Marquez vs Vazquez Predictions
Feb 29, 2008 9:13 AM
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> > > I'm picken Vasquez again. The first fight
> > Vasquez got
> > > his nose broke, as long as Israel keeps
> his
> > nose
> > > intact, he might make it an early night
> AGAIN!
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> > True but I thought the second fight was stopped
> > prematurely. Marquez was still throwing but the
> ref
> > didn't give him time to get the cobwebbs out.
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> > Going on a limb but Marquez wins a violent
> decision.
> > No stoppage in this one.
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> Luke, given the tangibles in their previous fights,
> this fight could be drastically different.
Man I've been flippin back and forth about this fight the past week. I originally felt Vasquez will win but I'm going with Marquez. I think thats one of those heart over head decisions I'm making.
I don't know if anyone caught Al Berstein on Jim ROme's show on ESPN but he was saying Vasquez is just naturally more powerful at that weight than Marquez. If Marquez fights the same grueling slugfest it could be a disadvantage and I agree.
I know Marquez is no slouch either and pretty powerful himself but I did notice in the second fight that Vasquez seemed to have more zip.
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Re: Marquez vs Vazquez Predictions
Feb 28, 2008 2:12 PM
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> > I'm picken Vasquez again. The first fight
> Vasquez got
> > his nose broke, as long as Israel keeps his
> nose
> > intact, he might make it an early night AGAIN!
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> True but I thought the second fight was stopped
> prematurely. Marquez was still throwing but the ref
> didn't give him time to get the cobwebbs out.
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> Going on a limb but Marquez wins a violent decision.
> No stoppage in this one.
Luke, given the tangibles in their previous fights, this fight could be drastically different.
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Edited by TNA37 at 02/28/2008 11:12 AM
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Re: Marquez vs Vazquez Predictions
Feb 28, 2008 2:08 PM
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> I'm picken Vasquez again. The first fight Vasquez got
> his nose broke, as long as Israel keeps his nose
> intact, he might make it an early night AGAIN!
True but I thought the second fight was stopped prematurely. Marquez was still throwing but the ref didn't give him time to get the cobwebbs out.
Going on a limb but Marquez wins a violent decision. No stoppage in this one.
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Re: Marquez vs Vazquez Predictions
Feb 28, 2008 1:06 PM
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> I did not see Marquez really coming on in that first
> fight. I saw a fighter who was getting busted to hell
> by his foe's jab, repeatedly stunned by power shots,
> & having ISOLATED moments where he'd land a hefty
> power shot.
> In my opinion, the beating he was taking was getting
> WORSE, when he & his corner elected to not continue.
> I came away from that fight believing Vazquez had
> been hammered by a superior foe, though he had
> moments where he COULD have turned the tide.
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> The second fight was a whole diifferent ballgame.
> . Vazquez was not the sitting (well, walking in) duck
> he was in the first fight. He seemed much sturdier &
> stronger than Marquez in the rematch. Everything he
> touched Marquez with seemed to bother/hurt Marquez,
> while Marquez never stunned him like he did numerous
> times in that first fight.
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> You have to believe the more recent fight told the
> e story of these two, more than the first. That's why
> most people are picking Vazquez.
Wow Jabs, nice detailed post--this makes sense bruh.
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Re: Marquez vs Vazquez Predictions
Feb 28, 2008 11:32 AM
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> I did not see Marquez really coming on in that first
> fight. I saw a fighter who was getting busted to hell
> by his foe's jab, repeatedly stunned by power shots,
> & having ISOLATED moments where he'd land a hefty
> power shot.
> In my opinion, the beating he was taking was getting
> WORSE, when he & his corner elected to not continue.
> I came away from that fight believing Vazquez had
> been hammered by a superior foe, though he had
> moments where he COULD have turned the tide.
>
> The second fight was a whole diifferent ballgame.
> . Vazquez was not the sitting (well, walking in) duck
> he was in the first fight. He seemed much sturdier &
> stronger than Marquez in the rematch. Everything he
> touched Marquez with seemed to bother/hurt Marquez,
> while Marquez never stunned him like he did numerous
> times in that first fight.
>
> You have to believe the more recent fight told the
> e story of these two, more than the first. That's why
> most people are picking Vazquez.
That's about summarizes this great matchup. Will Marquez's chin hold up? Will Vasquez's skin withstand the sharpshooters shots? Who will grow old overnight after several tough fights and the two previous brutal battles?
Marquez has the fight going his way using his solid jab and skills that has Vasquez a bit frustrated for the first half the fight or so. Finally Vasquez gets Marquez to come out of it with his steady pressure. Then the hooking battle begins. It won't take too long for Vasquez to do solid damage with his bigger punches putting Marquez on his ass a few times, as his face is all cut up and swollen yet again. Vasquez by tko in 9. Great fight once again!
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Edited by bombastic1 at 02/28/2008 8:35 AM
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Re: Marquez vs Vazquez Predictions
Feb 28, 2008 8:57 AM
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> I did not see Marquez really coming on in that first
> fight. I saw a fighter who was getting busted to hell
> by his foe's jab, repeatedly stunned by power shots,
> & having ISOLATED moments where he'd land a hefty
> power shot.
> In my opinion, the beating he was taking was getting
> WORSE, when he & his corner elected to not continue.
> I came away from that fight believing Vazquez had
> been hammered by a superior foe, though he had
> moments where he COULD have turned the tide.
>
> The second fight was a whole diifferent ballgame.
> . Vazquez was not the sitting (well, walking in) duck
> he was in the first fight. He seemed much sturdier &
> stronger than Marquez in the rematch. Everything he
> touched Marquez with seemed to bother/hurt Marquez,
> while Marquez never stunned him like he did numerous
> times in that first fight.
>
> You have to believe the more recent fight told the
> e story of these two, more than the first. That's why
> most people are picking Vazquez.
Agree. I'm picking Vazquez like most people. But, I believe Marquez will be very dangerous. This fight may be the one that he will be remembered for if he wins, in the same way Vasquez is remembered for the second fight.
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Re: Marquez vs Vazquez Predictions
Feb 28, 2008 7:01 AM
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I did not see Marquez really coming on in that first fight. I saw a fighter who was getting busted to hell by his foe's jab, repeatedly stunned by power shots, & having ISOLATED moments where he'd land a hefty power shot.
In my opinion, the beating he was taking was getting WORSE, when he & his corner elected to not continue. I came away from that fight believing Vazquez had been hammered by a superior foe, though he had moments where he COULD have turned the tide.
The second fight was a whole diifferent ballgame. Vazquez was not the sitting (well, walking in) duck he was in the first fight. He seemed much sturdier & stronger than Marquez in the rematch. Everything he touched Marquez with seemed to bother/hurt Marquez, while Marquez never stunned him like he did numerous times in that first fight.
You have to believe the more recent fight told the story of these two, more than the first. That's why most people are picking Vazquez.
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