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Which fight boxing fans are eager to watch, Mayweather vs Marquez or Pacquiao vs Cotto?
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Re: Mayweather vs Marquez or Pacquiao vs Cotto
Nov 22, 2009 9:15 AM
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> > Which fight boxing fans are eager to watch,
> > Mayweather vs Marquez or Pacquiao vs Cotto?
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> THE PUBLIC HAS SPOKEN.
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> More people preferred fighter A(Pacquiao) over
> fighter B(Mayweather Jr.)
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Not necessarily true...greater question...would Mayweather-Cotto have exceeded 1.25 million buys? I think so. It's funny how both camps spin the PPV outcomes. Mayweather has made more against all of he and Pac's common opponents - Marquez (I think his one fight made more than their fights combined lol), De La Hoya and Hatton, yet, naturally Arum, is comparing Cotto-Pacquiao to Mayweather-Marquez...which is apples and oranges. I just hope they fight at 147 and split 50/50 and I could even be cool with Pac (55), May (45)...too much money to through away.
http://www.fightinsight.com/2009/11/17/score-one-for-oakland-when-andre-ward-meets-mikkel-kessler/
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Re: Mayweather vs Marquez or Pacquiao vs Cotto
Nov 22, 2009 9:12 AM
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What up dudes and dudettes?!?!
All good points: Mayweather has not fought all the toughest challenges most recently BUT people also don't give him props for some of his recent wins (i.e. Oscar at 154 - much better weight for Oscar-one could argue that's as impressive/more than Manny's against the anorexic version of Oscar); Manny is indeed a once-in-a-generational fighter BUT he's also benefited from fighting guys (sans Cotto) that had already lost to Mayweather (Oscar and Hatton) and one who was in the Baldomir ilk (Diaz); Mayweather has had trouble with quick southpaws (Corley and Judah), so folks should not be shocked if the best quickest southpaw since Sweet Pea (Pacquiao) is able to trouble and defeat him, and lastly, all this posturing ends next year when they meet...who do I think wins? I'll say this, I tend to follow the Money in such weighty matters...speaking of weight, if it's at an official 147 (no catch weight nonsense), Mayweather's chances increase even more.
http://www.fightinsight.com/2009/11/17/score-one-for-oakland-when-andre-ward-meets-mikkel-kessler/
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Re: Mayweather vs Marquez or Pacquiao vs Cotto
Nov 21, 2009 10:42 PM
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Watching the replay of Manny/Cotto. Does anyone else think Manny's dad looks like Ricardo Mayorga?
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Re: Mayweather vs Marquez or Pacquiao vs Cotto
Nov 21, 2009 10:37 PM
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> Likewise, as an old professional boxing aficionado
> for as long as I could remember, I agree that
> Mayweather is a superb defensive master, as well as
> an excellent counter-puncher.
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> Even more exceptional with Floyd's boxing expertise,
> is his pin-point accuracy in cherry-picking beatable
> opponents... 
LOL!
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Re: Mayweather vs Marquez or Pacquiao vs Cotto
Nov 21, 2009 10:22 PM
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:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::> Astute observation oh Grand Wizard.... The man is
> undefeated...
Undefeated for fighting smaller guys and class-B fighters.::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
So your boy is a smaller B grade fighter....
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Re: Mayweather vs Marquez or Pacquiao vs Cotto
Nov 21, 2009 9:09 PM
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> Hitking60, I thought you're more of a Pacquiao fan
> than a Floyd Mayweather, Jr. fan? Obviously, from
> your previous posts from the other threads you're
> more into discrediting Manny than giving him his dues
> and props not only from his spectacular win last
> Saturday but from his previous wins as well. Tsk,
> tsk.
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> Edited by tarantadome at 11/17/2009 8:25 PM PST
Bruh, I've been a Pacquaio fan since before it was the "in thang" to be. And I don't care how much I like a fighter, I call sh*t like I see it. And when it comes to Mayweather and Pacquaio, they've taken very similar career paths. Problem is, one is criticized for it and one is praised. Don't even take it there with me homie. Hell, its only two fighters in the world I'd pay to see fight a mop, and Manny Pacquaio is one of them. Hell, I ordered Pacquaio-Diaz. And if you pay attention to my post, I've never thought Cotto was that good. So how in the hell was I gonna be in shock because the P4P King beat the sh*t outta him? Pac did what he was supposed to do against a B class fighter.
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Re: Mayweather vs Marquez or Pacquiao vs Cotto
Nov 21, 2009 9:05 PM
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> Astute observation oh Grand Wizard.... The man is
> undefeated...
Undefeated for fighting smaller guys and class-B fighters.
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Re: Mayweather vs Marquez or Pacquiao vs Cotto
Nov 21, 2009 6:15 PM
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:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::Likewise, as an old professional boxing aficionado for as long as I could remember, I agree that Mayweather is a superb defensive master, as well as an excellent counter-puncher.
Even more exceptional with Floyd's boxing expertise, is his pin-point accuracy in cherry-picking beatable opponents... ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
Astute observation oh Grand Wizard.... The man is undefeated...
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Re: Mayweather vs Marquez or Pacquiao vs Cotto
Nov 21, 2009 4:47 PM
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> I been watching Boxing for over 30years, I have never
> seen the kind of defense displayed like Floyd Mayweather.
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> The Speed and pin point accuracy this fighter has is
> not been seen over the last two decade
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Likewise, as an old professional boxing aficionado for as long as I could remember, I agree that Mayweather is a superb defensive master, as well as an excellent counter-puncher.
Even more exceptional with Floyd's boxing expertise, is his pin-point accuracy in cherry-picking beatable opponents...
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Re: Mayweather vs Marquez or Pacquiao vs Cotto
Nov 21, 2009 3:04 PM
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I been watching Boxing for over 30years, I have never seen the kind of defense displayed like Floyd Mayweather.
The Speed and pin point accuracy this fighter has is not been seen over the last two decade This is a problem for the boxing sport be cause there is no other fighter in the welterweight class with a lighting fast Jab to give Mayweather problems. Well I know Pacman Jab won't reach Floyd so After 30year of watching boxing and knowing there is no Jab in that class! I know who win that fight. I don't care much for the out of the ring stuff Floyd does but in the ring there is no better fighter today.
Floyd has alot of respect for Marquez. I have Floyd over Pacquiao in 4rounds. The young man swings too wild for Floyd accuracy. I also think Pacman earn a right to fight Floyd. Finally Suger Shane Mosley, If you have to interrupt a fight interview to Beg one of the great fighter ever to fight you that must your no good when your the champion! Beside your too slow and Who likes a cheater anyway.
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Re: Mayweather vs Marquez or Pacquiao vs Cotto
Nov 21, 2009 2:17 PM
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> THE PUBLIC HAS SPOKEN.
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> More people preferred fighter A (Pacquiao)
> over fighter B (Mayweather Jr.)
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Indeed, the world boxing public will always prefer a fighter, like Pacman, over a runner, like Floyd Mayweather...
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Re: Mayweather vs Marquez or Pacquiao vs Cotto
Nov 21, 2009 10:25 AM
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> Which fight boxing fans are eager to watch,
> Mayweather vs Marquez or Pacquiao vs Cotto?
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> "Out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks"
THE PUBLIC HAS SPOKEN.
More people preferred fighter A(Pacquiao) over fighter B(Mayweather Jr.)
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Re: Mayweather vs Marquez or Pacquiao vs Cotto
Nov 20, 2009 5:20 PM
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> Geez, why does someone always have to throw MMA/UFC
> in here? Are y'all Dana White plants? Bottom line,
> both sports are contact, yes, but are very different.
> I mean, football is actually the top contact sport in
> the land, but I digress, and who should care. And
> much to folks's surprise, supposedly dying boxing has
> been scorching in terms of PPV buys as of
> late...Mayweather-Marquez, Cotto-Pacquiao...so just
> live and let live, ya dig?
MMA and UFC need more efforts in order to be the same level with boxing. There's still a big and long gap.
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Re: Mayweather vs Marquez or Pacquiao vs Cotto
Nov 19, 2009 3:06 PM
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> Tarantado, I used to follow and observe most of
> the posts on Members Created Threads and archives and
> those were driving me crazy consistency wise. Some of
> them are confusing and deceiving.
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> I am just a casual fan, pare. I know how to recognize
> skill, yet I am critical of boxers who don't give
> their all, never takes risks of winning the best way
> possible. Just potshotting for a safe and sure win
> while the majority of paying fans lose. Only the
> hard-core, the few are in for this kind of
> pussy-fights. No wonder, UFC/MMA is fast becoming the
> number 1 contact sport nowadays, because majority of
> the fans are paying to see real live action. And
> rarely they can get it from boxing because of these
> pussy prima-donnas. As what Pugs describes it on the
> Marciano thread, "slap, hug, clinch, cling for life".
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> Edited by tarantadome at 11/17/2009 10:51 PM PST
Geez, why does someone always have to throw MMA/UFC in here? Are y'all Dana White plants? Bottom line, both sports are contact, yes, but are very different. I mean, football is actually the top contact sport in the land, but I digress, and who should care. And much to folks's surprise, supposedly dying boxing has been scorching in terms of PPV buys as of late...Mayweather-Marquez, Cotto-Pacquiao...so just live and let live, ya dig?
http://www.fightinsight.com/2009/11/17/score-one-for-oakland-when-andre-ward-meets-mikkel-kessler/
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Re: Mayweather vs Marquez or Pacquiao vs Cotto
Nov 18, 2009 10:47 PM
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> Tarantado, I used to follow and observe most of
> the posts on Members Created Threads and archives and
> those were driving me crazy consistency wise. Some of
> them are confusing and deceiving.
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> Boston, pare', am not a boxer fan, but i like
> fighters who gives their all when they're in the
> ring. Kinda remind me of Salvador Sanchez, Roberto
> Duran, Thomas Hearns, Marvin Hagler, etc...Without
> the likes of Pacquiao, Cotto, Marquez, et al, boxing
> would be near extinction. Them is what makes boxing
> alive again.
You said it taranta.
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