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Which fight boxing fans are eager to watch, Mayweather vs Marquez or Pacquiao vs Cotto?
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Re: Mayweather vs Marquez or Pacquiao vs Cotto
Aug 26, 2009 9:52 PM
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Yeah, to be honest no one will know who's better until that superfight actually happens. I sure hope it does. But both Pac and Floyd have to get past very tough guys in their next fights. In my personal opinion the three best p4p boxers are Pacquiao, Marquez, and Mayweather. And I think all three of them are all exiting to watch. But of course Mayweather's flashiness has always made alot of people want to root against him-including myself. But that doesn't mean I don't respect him. I have the upmost respect for him as an athlete.
You sound like a real boxing fan. Most people who don't like Floyd try and make it seem like he's a garbage fighter.
But speculation will always be there until those 2 get in the ring. It has the potential of being fight of the year and it will be the largest grossing fight ever. It has the story leading up to it and everything. It's the biggest fight that can be made!
Let's hope they both get past their opponents, because like you said, they both have stiff competition.
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Re: Mayweather vs Marquez or Pacquiao vs Cotto
Aug 26, 2009 5:22 PM
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> You misunderstood me. I'm talking about an attacker
> and a counterpuncher that has both beat the same guy.
> It's easier for the attacker to put the guy out
> quicker, which doesn't necessarily means he's better,
> just means his style is tailored for quicker ko's. If
> you believe Pac is better than Floyd, that's cool.
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> I'm not sure, I think it'll be a good fight and I'm
> leaning towards Floyd tho.
Yeah, to be honest no one will know who's better until that superfight actually happens. I sure hope it does. But both Pac and Floyd have to get past very tough guys in their next fights. In my personal opinion the three best p4p boxers are Pacquiao, Marquez, and Mayweather. And I think all three of them are all exiting to watch. But of course Mayweather's flashiness has always made alot of people want to root against him-including myself. But that doesn't mean I don't respect him. I have the upmost respect for him as an athlete.
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Re: Mayweather vs Marquez or Pacquiao vs Cotto
Aug 26, 2009 2:05 PM
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Yes that's true that an attacker will have a chance at a quicker knockout than a counter puncher will. But if that attacker doesn't have the skills, he would lose the fight. Take someone like Ricardo Mayorga (not sure of spelling). He is very attack oriented but obviously doesn't have the reflexes and skill of Manny Pacquio, which is why he loses to top opposition. Pacquio did his fair share of counter punching in both of those fights. The difference between him and Mayweather is simple. Pacquiao is better.
You misunderstood me. I'm talking about an attacker and a counterpuncher that has both beat the same guy. It's easier for the attacker to put the guy out quicker, which doesn't necessarily means he's better, just means his style is tailored for quicker ko's. If you believe Pac is better than Floyd, that's cool.
I'm not sure, I think it'll be a good fight and I'm leaning towards Floyd tho.
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Re: Mayweather vs Marquez or Pacquiao vs Cotto
Aug 26, 2009 1:51 PM
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Yes that's true that an attacker will have a chance at a quicker knockout than a counter puncher will. But if that attacker doesn't have the skills, he would lose the fight. Take someone like Ricardo Mayorga (not sure of spelling). He is very attack oriented but obviously doesn't have the reflexes and skill of Manny Pacquio, which is why he loses to top opposition. Pacquio did his fair share of counter punching in both of those fights. The difference between him and Mayweather is simple. Pacquiao is better.
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Re: Mayweather vs Marquez or Pacquiao vs Cotto
Aug 26, 2009 1:43 PM
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I'll agree that Oscar was drained and past his prime. The win over Oscar was absolutely no surprize to me. But I won't say knocking out Hatton is easy. Yes, Mayweather and Pacquiao have both made it look easy but that's only 2 of Hatton's many fights. I'm tired of people calling Hatton an amatearish club fighter and this and that just because of 2 fights. He got over anxious and he got caught.
But back to Manny Pacquiao... There is obviously ALOT of stiff welterweight comp out there and i'm as curious as the next person to see how well Pac Man does against it. But considering he did better against Hatton and De La Hoya than Mayweather could do, I think it's safe to say that he can more than hold his own.
When an attacker and a counterpuncher fight the same person, more than 90% of the time, the attacker will win the fight more convincingly than the counterpuncher. It's the way they fight. Counterpunchers wait for that perfect shot and attackers...well... they attack!
I don't understand the logic people have by saying Pac beat those 2 better than a counterpuncher (Floyd)??? Makes no sense to me, can someone please explain?!?
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Re: Mayweather vs Marquez or Pacquiao vs Cotto
Aug 26, 2009 12:52 PM
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> Please man. What has Pacman proved? That he can beat
> a sucked up, over the hill Oscar. K.O a englishman
> who fights with his chin out. Manny is a great
> lightweight...That's all! He still got alot to prove
> in his weight division now!!!...ALOT!!!
I'll agree that Oscar was drained and past his prime. The win over Oscar was absolutely no surprize to me. But I won't say knocking out Hatton is easy. Yes, Mayweather and Pacquiao have both made it look easy but that's only 2 of Hatton's many fights. I'm tired of people calling Hatton an amatearish club fighter and this and that just because of 2 fights. He got over anxious and he got caught.
But back to Manny Pacquiao... There is obviously ALOT of stiff welterweight comp out there and i'm as curious as the next person to see how well Pac Man does against it. But considering he did better against Hatton and De La Hoya than Mayweather could do, I think it's safe to say that he can more than hold his own.
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Re: Mayweather vs Marquez or Pacquiao vs Cotto
Aug 26, 2009 12:11 PM
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> > Marquez gave him comp, cause thats the only
> fresh
> > world class fighter in his prime that Manny
> ever
> > fought. Barerra and Morales beat each other
> senseless
> > before Manny entered the picture and took
> advantage
> > of the fact that they were on the decline after
> > caving each other's heads in. Even then when
> Morales
> > still had something to prove he ended up
> schooling
> > Manny. Hatton fights like a caveman and never
> had no
> > buisness in the ring with any worldclass fighter
> imo.
> > DLH was drained old and slow when Manny took
> > advantage of him. Who else has Manny stomped on
> that
> > was a worldclass p4p type of fighter?
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> > He's just gonna walk through Cotto. Crawl up
> from
> > under that rock kid.
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> I respect your opinion as boxing critic but I wonder
> what you're going to say if he KO the ff: Mosley--
> "He's too old and ready to retire"; Cotto-- "He's
> just Margie's left over"; Mayweather-- "Suffered from
> rib injury, etc."
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> Barerra was still in his prime back in 2004; Manny
> KO'd the undefeated Solis; He sent the smart and
> determined #2 P4P to the canvas 4 times then
> recovered at the latter rounds; Oscar Larios still in
> his prime as of today not to mention those undesputed
> champions in the lower weight class from whom he
> earned belts.
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> Do you want him to fight Hopkins, Pavlik, Calzaghe
> and Klitschko brothers? LOL
You're getting ahead of yourself bro. Let's wait and see him beat a few more BIGGER fighters before you name him P4P. He's a great lightweight...That's it. If he beats all those fighters you mention, then he'll be the undisputed greatest at his time. I won't argue that.
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Re: Mayweather vs Marquez or Pacquiao vs Cotto
Aug 26, 2009 12:08 PM
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Please man. What has Pacman proved? That he can beat a sucked up, over the hill Oscar. K.O a englishman who fights with his chin out. Manny is a great lightweight...That's all! He still got alot to prove in his weight division now!!!...ALOT!!!
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Re: Mayweather vs Marquez or Pacquiao vs Cotto
Aug 26, 2009 8:42 AM
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I agree with Bostonpinoyboy. Pacquiao has proven more in the ring than any other boxer and that's why he's earned the pfp crown. To bet against him at this stage of his career while he's obviously still in prime shape would be a mistake. I'll have no hesitation putting money on him against Cotto.
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Re: Mayweather vs Marquez or Pacquiao vs Cotto
Aug 26, 2009 3:58 AM
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> Marquez gave him comp, cause thats the only fresh
> world class fighter in his prime that Manny ever
> fought. Barerra and Morales beat each other senseless
> before Manny entered the picture and took advantage
> of the fact that they were on the decline after
> caving each other's heads in. Even then when Morales
> still had something to prove he ended up schooling
> Manny. Hatton fights like a caveman and never had no
> buisness in the ring with any worldclass fighter imo.
> DLH was drained old and slow when Manny took
> advantage of him. Who else has Manny stomped on that
> was a worldclass p4p type of fighter?
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> He's just gonna walk through Cotto. Crawl up from
> under that rock kid.
I respect your opinion as boxing critic but I wonder what you're going to say if he KO the ff: Mosley-- "He's too old and ready to retire"; Cotto-- "He's just Margie's left over"; Mayweather-- "Suffered from rib injury, etc."
Barerra was still in his prime back in 2004; Manny KO'd the undefeated Solis; He sent the smart and determined #2 P4P to the canvas 4 times then recovered at the latter rounds; Oscar Larios still in his prime as of today not to mention those undesputed champions in the lower weight class from whom he earned belts.
Do you want him to fight Hopkins, Pavlik, Calzaghe and Klitschko brothers? LOL
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Re: Mayweather vs Marquez or Pacquiao vs Cotto
Aug 25, 2009 11:11 PM
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Re: Mayweather vs Marquez or Pacquiao vs Cotto
Aug 25, 2009 7:36 PM
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> i heard that there will only be 5000 tickets for sale
> on the pac/cotto fight. so it wont take long for a
> sellout. thats good news for mandingo. i wonder if u
> have a voodoo doll of mayweather. i expect marquez
> to put up a good fight, he knows how to cut off the
> ring and pretty much has an answer to anything floyd
> has to throw. mayweather/marquez all day!!!!
NOW YOU DONE IT! A MANDINGO CAN ONLY TAKE SO MUCH!
I really like Floyd, it's true, he is PRICELESS. I mean, doesn't he entertain and educate everyone like he does me?
The man is a walking medical case of delusion in which one can study and base his thesis on.
He is also very entertaining. There is the DRAMA(crying). There is the sad GOODBYE(retirement announcement). There is the TENDER MOMENT(big hug from Eller Biatch). There is the FANTASTIC dancing with the stars. There is the RAGS TO IRS story. There is the great "stick to commentating" statement to Larry and then he got the "that is what I am doing" statement" punch to the brain.
COME ONE, NOW TAKE A LOOK AT THIS GREAT, GREAT, GREAT, 10 MINUTE ENTERTAINMENT.
priceless, the guy keep getting better, it's time for an Oscar, the trophy that is..lol
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Re: Mayweather vs Marquez or Pacquiao vs Cotto
Aug 25, 2009 4:47 PM
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i heard that there will only be 5000 tickets for sale on the pac/cotto fight. so it wont take long for a sellout. thats good news for mandingo. i wonder if u have a voodoo doll of mayweather. i expect marquez to put up a good fight, he knows how to cut off the ring and pretty much has an answer to anything floyd has to throw. mayweather/marquez all day!!!!
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Re: Mayweather vs Marquez or Pacquiao vs Cotto
Aug 25, 2009 2:56 PM
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> both, im gonna watch both with high interest. i dont
> think either fight will be lame, because all 4
> fighters have alot they still want to prove, floyd
> wants to show everyone that he is still the best
> fighter in the world ,marquez wants to show that he
> can fight as well in a higher wieght class as he did
> in the lower wieght classes plus he feels he's
> fighting the best in the world in floyd. as far as
> pac man and cotto go ,when have they bin in boring
> fights. they will bring out the best in each other,
> yeah, i think this will be the betta fight out of the
> two, i see both fights being very good fights. now
> the better fight will be when the winners of these
> fights square off , if it ever goes down.
I'm also excited for both fights, and they are far enough apart to where I can buy both.
I see a chessmatch for Mayweather vs Marquez that im interested in and I see either a slaughter or a war for pacman vs cotto. I see a slaughter cause if pacmans in and out movement is too fast for Cotto....then thats just what it will be.
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Re: Mayweather vs Marquez or Pacquiao vs Cotto
Aug 25, 2009 2:53 PM
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both, im gonna watch both with high interest. i dont think either fight will be lame, because all 4 fighters have alot they still want to prove, floyd wants to show everyone that he is still the best fighter in the world ,marquez wants to show that he can fight as well in a higher wieght class as he did in the lower wieght classes plus he feels he's fighting the best in the world in floyd. as far as pac man and cotto go ,when have they bin in boring fights. they will bring out the best in each other, yeah, i think this will be the betta fight out of the two, i see both fights being very good fights. now the better fight will be when the winners of these fights square off , if it ever goes down.
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