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Mosley ruins Mayweather's moment, possibly much more LAS VEGAS -- Throughout a brilliant 16-year professional career, Shane Mosley has always conducted himself with the utmost class. Mild mannered and well spoken, Mosley is a journalist's dream, the kind of athlete you begin an interview feeling ambivalent and end it rooting for him to succeed. Mosley has always been the underdog, a fighter who has spent his life living in the shadow of Oscar De La Hoya (who "Sugar" has defeated twice) and never getting adequate recognition for his achievements. However, last weekend, Mosley became someone else. After Floyd Mayweather Jr. returned from a 21-month layoff to defeat the world's No. 2-ranked fighter Juan Manuel Marquez in 12 rounds, HBO's Max Kellerman interviewed the victor in the ring. It was supposed to be Mayweather's well-earned moment in the spotlight. It turned into a show of disrespect and arrogance by Mosley. When Kellerman asked Mayweather about the possibility of facing Mosley next, Mosley -- whose status as a Golden Boy Promotions executive allowed him to be in the ring -- thrust himself into the discussion. Mosley, along with the equally inappropriate Bernard Hopkins, verbally attacked Mayweather, leaving Mayweather flustered and eventually forcing him to storm out of the ring. Later, Mosley and Hopkins continued their eighth-grade bully act when they refused to cede the stage to Mayweather at the post-fight press conference. Certainly, Mosley can make a strong case that he should be Mayweather's next opponent. His win over Antonio Margarito in January established him as the top pure welterweight in the world (Manny Pacquiao is more of a hybrid, bouncing between 140 and 147 pounds). He also has a crowd-pleasing style and decent fan base, making him a viable pay-per-view fighter, even at 38 years old. But this wasn't the way to prove his point. Mosley, and the rest of Golden Boy, should be embarrassed by his behavior. The stunt carried with it the permeating odor of a desperate man. Mosley believed his win over Margarito would propel him to multiple lucrative fights this year. But it hasn't, and Mosley has failed to secure deals with Pacquiao, Andre Berto or Zab Judah. With 2009 winding down, Sugar Shane still doesn't have a fight scheduled (a proposed Dec. 26 date was vetoed by HBO). For an aging fighter on the tail-end of his career, that is unacceptable. So Mosley -- with Hopkins, who never met a camera or microphone he didn't like, acting as his wingman -- resorted to bush-league tactics. Even De La Hoya was complicit, effectively condoning his business partner's behavior by flaunting Mosley's credentials at the press conference and refusing to ask Mosley or Hopkins to back off the stage when Mayweather arrived. De La Hoya called Mosley-Mayweather "the Super Bowl" of fights. Too bad Mayweather-Pacquiao is the Super Bowl. Mayweather-Mosley is a good playoff game, at best. Only Golden Boy CEO Richard Schaefer showed any remorse for the antics when he told SI.com that he "didn't like those kinds of confrontations" and that he "would have handled the situation differently." The irony is that Mosley may have irreparably damaged any possibility of a Mayweather fight. Though Mayweather took the high road in declaring his respect for Mosley as a fighter, several members of Mayweather's team were livid at the boorish behavior. Mayweather Promotions CEO Leonard Ellerbe blasted Mosley and said they weren't interested in a fight with Mosley because "he doesn't draw any kind of crowd." Floyd Mayweather Sr., De La Hoya's former trainer who has a long history with Golden Boy, called Mosley a "punk" and said, "[he] isn't worth my son's time." I have been among Mayweather Jr.'s critics, as I disclosed my feelings about his handpicking opponents and ducking tough contenders. But in this case, Mayweather deserved his time to bask in the success of a near-flawless performance against Marquez. After a nearly two-year layoff, he returned to the ring, and proved he's still got it. Mosley, however, proved he's lost it.
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Re: Mosley ruins Mayweather's moment, possibly much more
Oct 9, 2009 4:06 PM
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> > If a Mayweather/Mosley bout takes place, I'm > going to > > make every effort to be ringside for it. > > I would have to join you there, CT... > > Don't think it'll ever happen though. > > Then again, what if: PBF put SSM up to this? What if > Floyd secretly told SSM, "Dude, I'll fight you, but > you've got to take on the role of assh*le this time. > After I smoke JMM, storm into the postfight like an > n a-hole and then we'll build up a WWE-type > atmosphere. But this time, I'm the good guy." What > if Floyd said that? > > > > Okay... I'll just admit it. Shane was an asshole. > But to his defense, I think he was on Hops. People > e do strange things under the influence of Hops. Slaves were always easily influenced........
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Re: Mosley ruins Mayweather's moment, possibly much more
Oct 9, 2009 4:04 PM
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I personally dont like Floyd ... but that was a great performance..... you really think about it.. if floyd would have fought marquez at lets say 135.... floyd beats him worse.. floyd would probably be faster.
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Re: Mosley ruins Mayweather's moment, possibly much more
Oct 9, 2009 4:03 PM
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Memo to Neut: just work on getting your azz to Pavlik/Williams. We'll worry about unsigned fights later....
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Re: Mosley ruins Mayweather's moment, possibly much more
Oct 9, 2009 4:02 PM
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> > Margarito lost his being elite by being caught > with > > plaster of paris on his hand before he fights > > Mosley... > > > > Cotto didnt lost, he was cheated! You should > admit > > it! > > Margarito cheated Cotto weather you believe it > or > > not... If he had been caught doing it, what are > the > > chances he had been doing it before? > > > > Have you seen how Cotto's face was insanely > > disconfigured? > > > > > > "The absense of the of the evidence is not an > > evidence of the absense!" > > I personally feel that Margarito did cheat against > Cotto. That being said, I also feel he cheated > against Williams, Santos Martinez, Cintron as well. > P-Dub had to sue Margarito to get a fight with him. > . I would think that Margarito would want a little > extra help against him. Santos was bigger and > stronger, he might have wanted a little help against > him. Williams and Santos beat Plasterman. Martinez > and Cintron, like Cotto, are unbeaten with the > exception of their run ins with Plasterman. So IMO, > himcheating against Cotto is irrelevant. Because > he's been beaten with the plaster. And there are > fighters that aren't looked at as highly as Cotto who > can make the exact claims that Cotto can. Hit,what's good? I personally think Margarito started cheating after starting his career with a 9-3 record.I also think he got ruthless and started wetting his wraps before fights when he fought Cintron the first time. Williams beat Margarito but towards the end of that fight,Williams was in danger of getting ko'ed. Maybe the plaster broke Clotteys hand as he went to block one of Margs shots. As for the Santos fight,I aint see it so i wont comment on it.
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Re: Mosley ruins Mayweather's moment, possibly much more
Oct 9, 2009 4:01 PM
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> If a Mayweather/Mosley bout takes place, I'm going to > make every effort to be ringside for it. I would have to join you there, CT... Don't think it'll ever happen though. Then again, what if: PBF put SSM up to this? What if Floyd secretly told SSM, "Dude, I'll fight you, but you've got to take on the role of assh*le this time. After I smoke JMM, storm into the postfight like an a-hole and then we'll build up a WWE-type atmosphere. But this time, I'm the good guy." What if Floyd said that? Okay... I'll just admit it. Shane was an asshole. But to his defense, I think he was on Hops. People do strange things under the influence of Hops.
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Re: Mosley ruins Mayweather's moment, possibly much more
Oct 9, 2009 3:55 PM
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> LMAO!!!! > Theres two different cases here... Pacquiao fought > JMM twice on JMM's own division... > > And Juan lost a fight at 147lbs vs a 147lbs > fighter.. > > Its the first time every body seen JMM being out > classed... Why??? Because it is the first time JMM > fought above 135lbs... What more, its at 147lbs!!! > Damn!!! > Even Ricardo Torres can do better against JMM at > 147lbs!!! That can't be proven. And if you saw the fight and was able to comprehend what was going on. Mayweather-Marquez was more of a skill mismatch than it was a size mismatch. That's the part that was impressive to knowledgeable fight fans. Marquez is one of the most skilled fighters in the game. And he outclassed from a skill standpoint.
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Re: Mosley ruins Mayweather's moment, possibly much more
Oct 9, 2009 3:53 PM
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> Thats why I removed Maragarito completely from the > seen, cause he is a cheater and all his fights should > be void!!! He didnt exixst in boxing! His name should > be erased completely... > > I wonder if Floyd knew Maragrito was cheating??? > Cause Floyd simply ducked Margarito directly... > Margarito apprached Floyd similar to how Shane did... > And Floyd never showed any anger against him, neither > answers any question frm Maragrito. Even for a > $8M... > > Do you personaly think Floyd knew it? Margarito was calling out Mayweather while Money was fighting at lightweight and 140. When Mayweather hit the division, Margarito was rebuilding himself after a loss to daniel Santos. When Mayweather hit the division, Judah was the biggest fight available to him, Mosley didn't want to fight him, and Baldomir was the champ. Mayweather made the same ammount to fight Baldomir for the welterweight strap. At the time, a Margarito fight didn't make much sense.
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Re: Mosley ruins Mayweather's moment, possibly much more
Oct 9, 2009 3:45 PM
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LMAO!!!! Theres two different cases here... Pacquiao fought JMM twice on JMM's own division... And Juan lost a fight at 147lbs vs a 147lbs fighter.. Its the first time every body seen JMM being out classed... Why??? Because it is the first time JMM fought above 135lbs... What more, its at 147lbs!!! Damn!!! Even Ricardo Torres can do better against JMM at 147lbs!!! Considering that he hadn't fought in nearly two years and was fighting one of the best the sport has to offer. I think it was a very solid win. The manner in which he did it was impressive. Not even the P4P King Manny Pacquaio has outclassed Marquez in that manner. -- Edited by REALspicy at 10/09/2009 12:46 PM PDT
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Re: Mosley ruins Mayweather's moment, possibly much more
Oct 9, 2009 3:37 PM
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Thats why I removed Maragarito completely from the seen, cause he is a cheater and all his fights should be void!!! He didnt exixst in boxing! His name should be erased completely... I wonder if Floyd knew Maragrito was cheating??? Cause Floyd simply ducked Margarito directly... Margarito apprached Floyd similar to how Shane did... And Floyd never showed any anger against him, neither answers any question frm Maragrito. Even for a $8M... Do you personaly think Floyd knew it? I personally feel that Margarito did cheat against Cotto. That being said, I also feel he cheated against Williams, Santos Martinez, Cintron as well. P-Dub had to sue Margarito to get a fight with him. I would think that Margarito would want a little extra help against him. Santos was bigger and stronger, he might have wanted a little help against him. Williams and Santos beat Plasterman. Martinez and Cintron, like Cotto, are unbeaten with the exception of their run ins with Plasterman. So IMO, himcheating against Cotto is irrelevant. Because he's been beaten with the plaster. And there are fighters that aren't looked at as highly as Cotto who can make the exact claims that Cotto can.
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Re: Mosley ruins Mayweather's moment, possibly much more
Oct 9, 2009 3:30 PM
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> Yeah! He still fights on his own division most of > that other 38 fights! > > BTW, do you really think Floyd's win over JMM was so > great? Considering that he hadn't fought in nearly two years and was fighting one of the best the sport has to offer. I think it was a very solid win. The manner in which he did it was impressive. Not even the P4P King Manny Pacquaio has outclassed Marquez in that manner.
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Re: Mosley ruins Mayweather's moment, possibly much more
Oct 9, 2009 3:28 PM
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> Margarito lost his being elite by being caught with > plaster of paris on his hand before he fights > Mosley... > > Cotto didnt lost, he was cheated! You should admit > it! > Margarito cheated Cotto weather you believe it or > not... If he had been caught doing it, what are the > chances he had been doing it before? > > Have you seen how Cotto's face was insanely > disconfigured? > > > "The absense of the of the evidence is not an > evidence of the absense!" I personally feel that Margarito did cheat against Cotto. That being said, I also feel he cheated against Williams, Santos Martinez, Cintron as well. P-Dub had to sue Margarito to get a fight with him. I would think that Margarito would want a little extra help against him. Santos was bigger and stronger, he might have wanted a little help against him. Williams and Santos beat Plasterman. Martinez and Cintron, like Cotto, are unbeaten with the exception of their run ins with Plasterman. So IMO, himcheating against Cotto is irrelevant. Because he's been beaten with the plaster. And there are fighters that aren't looked at as highly as Cotto who can make the exact claims that Cotto can.
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Re: Mosley ruins Mayweather's moment, possibly much more
Oct 9, 2009 3:26 PM
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Yeah! He still fights on his own division most of that other 38 fights! How many divisions he did fight at his PRO carreer? BTW, do you really think Floyd's win over JMM was so great? > Do you mean Floyd fights at his division vs a fighter > off their own size?? > Juan Manuel Marquez? > Ricky Hatton? What about his other 38 fights? -- Edited by REALspicy at 10/09/2009 12:29 PM PDT
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Re: Mosley ruins Mayweather's moment, possibly much more
Oct 9, 2009 3:21 PM
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Margarito lost his being elite by being caught with plaster of paris on his hand before he fights Mosley... Cotto didnt lost, he was cheated! You should admit it! Margarito cheated Cotto weather you believe it or not... If he had been caught doing it, what are the chances he had been doing it before? Have you seen how Cotto's face was insanely disconfigured? "The absense of the of the evidence is not an evidence of the absense!" My belief is that evetually, you have to stop annoiting guys elite for simply beating each other. Donaire is a P4P elite basically because he beat Darchinyan. But no one was jumping to call Agbeko an elite for beating Darchinyan recently. The domino effect stopped. Cotto was considered elite. Then, Margarito was considered elite for beating Cotto. Then, Mosley was once again considered elite for beating Margarito. But Williams beat Margarito, and is nohere to be found. And now, Cotto is P4P and Margarito isn't. It doesn't make any sense. IMO, if one of them is P4P, all of them are. Personally, I say none of them are. -- Edited by REALspicy at 10/09/2009 12:23 PM PDT
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Re: Mosley ruins Mayweather's moment, possibly much more
Oct 9, 2009 3:15 PM
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> Do you mean Floyd fights at his division vs a fighter > off their own size?? > Juan Manuel Marquez? > Ricky Hatton? What about his other 38 fights?
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Re: Mosley ruins Mayweather's moment, possibly much more
Oct 9, 2009 3:14 PM
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Do you mean Floyd fights at his division vs a fighter off their own size?? Juan Manuel Marquez? Ricky Hatton? Well besides Maywaether its a good division with a lot of good fighters. Mayweather fights in different divisions anyways.
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