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He has lost all of his biggest fights. He has never beaten a top fighter in his prime. He is the highest-grossing and richest boxer of all time. He has five losses. Which is alot in this era. Is Oscar a "great" fighter with a HOF pedigree...or is he just a handsome, articulate "B-level" boxer? -- Floyd Joy Mayweather, Jr. is BETTER than Oscar Delahoya. Period
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Re: WHAT IS OSCAR DELAHOYA'S BOXING LEGACY?
Jun 8, 2007 12:56 AM
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I knew Floyd would win. He's too cute too lose. I know why they call him the "Pretty One".
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Re: WHAT IS OSCAR DELAHOYA'S BOXING LEGACY?
Jun 8, 2007 12:52 AM
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Yeah finally got that opening he was looking for and really seized the moment didn't he. LMAO! -- RIP - Diego "Chico" Corrales
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Re: WHAT IS OSCAR DELAHOYA'S BOXING LEGACY?
Jun 7, 2007 6:16 PM
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> > > > > > Yes but where is that flurry that stopped or > > stunned > > > Oscar, puffed up his eye a little, I mean > > geesh! > > > > > > > > > > Round 5, 1:20 > > Dupe, can I get a frame count on that? I only know that because some guy had that on his loop at the Boxing Scene Forums. -- Prime Naseem Hamed vs. Prime Manny Pacquiao? At 126.
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Re: WHAT IS OSCAR DELAHOYA'S BOXING LEGACY?
Jun 7, 2007 12:22 AM
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> > "Golden Boy is still a formidable fighter against > those > > who'll come to really fight, rather than ran a > race... " > > > > Oscar "ran" from Trinidad, Mosley (fight II), & > against > > Hopkins. Don't know what you're talking about, > Joe. > > > > If there's one fighter you shouldn't use to > measure > > Floyd against, it's Oscar DeLaHoya- the ultimate > big > > fight disappointment. > > > Oscar was out-boxing Trinidad and way ahead on > points, till the last 3 rounds. > > As a disciplined fighter, he abided by his trainer to > play it safe on those last few rounds, which Tito > didn't do much anyway. > > That was precisely why the decision given in favor > with Trinidad was very controversal... and also the reason why he fired his trainer immediately afterwards? -- The bravest are surely those who have the clearest vision of what is before them, glory and danger alike, and yet notwithstanding go out to meet it. ~Thucydides~
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Re: WHAT IS OSCAR DELAHOYA'S BOXING LEGACY?
Jun 6, 2007 8:52 PM
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> > > > Yes but where is that flurry that stopped or > stunned > > Oscar, puffed up his eye a little, I mean > geesh! > > > > > > Round 5, 1:20 Dupe, can I get a frame count on that?
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Jun 6, 2007 7:55 PM
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> > Yes but where is that flurry that stopped or stunned > Oscar, puffed up his eye a little, I mean geesh! > > Round 5, 1:20 -- Can a straight man drive a Miata?
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Re: WHAT IS OSCAR DELAHOYA'S BOXING LEGACY?
Jun 6, 2007 12:57 PM
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> > Running is what Spinks did. Creating distance and > > looking for angles is what Floyd did. Since Floyd > > was landing hooks and uppercuts as his counters > and > > then, yes getting out of there because, well, > that's > > how he could win the fight, it was an effective > > strategy. In Hagler-Leonard, Leonard had a brief > > flurry for 20 seconds of each round (the first and > > last) and then did not engage Hagler at all the > rest > > of the time. It was effective because judges are > > human like the rest of us, and thus remember the > last > > thing they see more than other parts of the > > enterprise. Yes Floyd moved backwards, but always > > looking for openings to hit, not just trying to > not > > get hit like Spinks was. > > > > One is tempted to give the aggressor close rounds > and > > if you wanted to do that, sure, Oscar got some > > rounds. But the rounds Floyd won in that fight > were > > not close. > > > > -- > > The first rule of dog fight club is we don't talk > > about dog fight club. > > Yes but where is that flurry that stopped or stunned > Oscar, puffed up his eye a little, I mean geesh! > > -- > RIP - Diego "Chico" Corrales it's like the phantom punch. the punch that never happened. -- The bravest are surely those who have the clearest vision of what is before them, glory and danger alike, and yet notwithstanding go out to meet it. ~Thucydides~
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Re: WHAT IS OSCAR DELAHOYA'S BOXING LEGACY?
Jun 6, 2007 2:54 AM
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> Running is what Spinks did. Creating distance and > looking for angles is what Floyd did. Since Floyd > was landing hooks and uppercuts as his counters and > then, yes getting out of there because, well, that's > how he could win the fight, it was an effective > strategy. In Hagler-Leonard, Leonard had a brief > flurry for 20 seconds of each round (the first and > last) and then did not engage Hagler at all the rest > of the time. It was effective because judges are > human like the rest of us, and thus remember the last > thing they see more than other parts of the > enterprise. Yes Floyd moved backwards, but always > looking for openings to hit, not just trying to not > get hit like Spinks was. > > One is tempted to give the aggressor close rounds and > if you wanted to do that, sure, Oscar got some > rounds. But the rounds Floyd won in that fight were > not close. > > -- > The first rule of dog fight club is we don't talk > about dog fight club. Yes but where is that flurry that stopped or stunned Oscar, puffed up his eye a little, I mean geesh! -- RIP - Diego "Chico" Corrales
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Re: WHAT IS OSCAR DELAHOYA'S BOXING LEGACY?
Jun 5, 2007 11:05 PM
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> "Golden Boy is still a formidable fighter against > those who'll come to really fight, rather than ran a > race... " > > > Oscar "ran" from Trinidad, Mosley (fight II), & > & against Hopkins. > Don't know what you're talking about, Joe. > > If there's one fighter you shouldn't use to measure > e Floyd against, it's Oscar DeLaHoya- the ultimate > big fight disappointment. > lmao -- I'M GONA STAND TOE 2 TOE WITH OSCAR. WHAT HAPPENED
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Re: WHAT IS OSCAR DELAHOYA'S BOXING LEGACY?
Jun 5, 2007 10:51 PM
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> "Golden Boy is still a formidable fighter against those > who'll come to really fight, rather than ran a race... " > Oscar "ran" from Trinidad, Mosley (fight II), & against > Hopkins. Don't know what you're talking about, Joe. > > If there's one fighter you shouldn't use to measure > Floyd against, it's Oscar DeLaHoya- the ultimate big > fight disappointment. Oscar was out-boxing Trinidad and way ahead on points, till the last 3 rounds. As a disciplined fighter, he abided by his trainer to play it safe on those last few rounds, which Tito didn't do much anyway. That was precisely why the decision given in favor with Trinidad was very controversal...
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Re: WHAT IS OSCAR DELAHOYA'S BOXING LEGACY?
Jun 5, 2007 6:49 PM
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> > > > Jose Luis Castillo is one of the best > > counter-punchers there is on the inside but he > > doesn't run. Mike Tyson was a great > counter-puncher > > as well but could've run a little more later in > his > > career. > > > > What Bigs is referring to is running and > potshotting > > from the outside. Something Daniel Santos did to > beat > > Yory Boy Campas for which he was criticized by > MOST > > on here as being a pussy of a fighter yet was able > to > > stop him in the eleventh round with what you are > > referring to as counter-punching!!! > > > > -- > > RIP - Diego "Chico" Corrales > > Running is what Spinks did. Creating distance and > looking for angles is what Floyd did. Since Floyd > was landing hooks and uppercuts as his counters and > then, yes getting out of there because, well, that's > how he could win the fight, it was an effective > strategy. In Hagler-Leonard, Leonard had a brief > flurry for 20 seconds of each round (the first and > last) and then did not engage Hagler at all the rest > of the time. It was effective because judges are > human like the rest of us, and thus remember the last > thing they see more than other parts of the > enterprise. Yes Floyd moved backwards, but always > looking for openings to hit, not just trying to not > get hit like Spinks was. > > One is tempted to give the aggressor close rounds and > if you wanted to do that, sure, Oscar got some > rounds. But the rounds Floyd won in that fight were > not close. FLOYD IS GOD!!! LMAO. PLEASE!! STOP IT ALREADY!!! -- The bravest are surely those who have the clearest vision of what is before them, glory and danger alike, and yet notwithstanding go out to meet it. ~Thucydides~
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Re: WHAT IS OSCAR DELAHOYA'S BOXING LEGACY?
Jun 5, 2007 2:58 PM
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> > Jose Luis Castillo is one of the best > counter-punchers there is on the inside but he > doesn't run. Mike Tyson was a great counter-puncher > as well but could've run a little more later in his > career. > > What Bigs is referring to is running and potshotting > from the outside. Something Daniel Santos did to beat > Yory Boy Campas for which he was criticized by MOST > on here as being a pussy of a fighter yet was able to > stop him in the eleventh round with what you are > referring to as counter-punching!!! > > -- > RIP - Diego "Chico" Corrales Running is what Spinks did. Creating distance and looking for angles is what Floyd did. Since Floyd was landing hooks and uppercuts as his counters and then, yes getting out of there because, well, that's how he could win the fight, it was an effective strategy. In Hagler-Leonard, Leonard had a brief flurry for 20 seconds of each round (the first and last) and then did not engage Hagler at all the rest of the time. It was effective because judges are human like the rest of us, and thus remember the last thing they see more than other parts of the enterprise. Yes Floyd moved backwards, but always looking for openings to hit, not just trying to not get hit like Spinks was. One is tempted to give the aggressor close rounds and if you wanted to do that, sure, Oscar got some rounds. But the rounds Floyd won in that fight were not close. -- The first rule of dog fight club is we don't talk about dog fight club.
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Re: WHAT IS OSCAR DELAHOYA'S BOXING LEGACY?
Jun 5, 2007 12:01 PM
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> > > > Although, to be completely honest, I agree > with > > a > > > > decent amount of your sentiment. Just hard to > > > take > > > > it seriously from someone who legitimately > > cannot > > > > tell running from counterpunching, and who > does > > > not > > > > take the time to acknowledge order in the > sport > > > when > > > > it actually exists. > > > > > > Jose Luis Castillo is one of the best > > > counter-punchers there is on the inside but he > > > doesn't run. Mike Tyson was a great > > counter-puncher > > > as well but could've run a little more later in > > his > > > career. > > > > > > What Bigs is referring to is running and > > potshotting > > > from the outside. Something Daniel Santos did to > > beat > > > Yory Boy Campas for which he was criticized by > > MOST > > > on here as being a pussy of a fighter yet was > able > > to > > > stop him in the eleventh round with what you are > > > referring to as counter-punching!!! > > > > > > -- > > > RIP - Diego "Chico" Corrales > > > > very interesting that santos fights the same type > of > > fiht as pbf and gets ridiculed while pbf gets > > praised. and they wonder why they call them > > nutlickers. > > > > Kinda like how Barerra "boxed beautifully" against > Juarez in the second fight.. but Mayweather runs.. > > or how SRL was the definition of all that is great in > boxing in the second Duran fight and against Hagler.. > but Mayweather runs. > > or... some fighters run for one fight and some run their entire careers. -- The bravest are surely those who have the clearest vision of what is before them, glory and danger alike, and yet notwithstanding go out to meet it. ~Thucydides~
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Re: WHAT IS OSCAR DELAHOYA'S BOXING LEGACY?
Jun 5, 2007 11:22 AM
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"Golden Boy is still a formidable fighter against those who'll come to really fight, rather than ran a race... " Oscar "ran" from Trinidad, Mosley (fight II), & against Hopkins. Don't know what you're talking about, Joe. If there's one fighter you shouldn't use to measure Floyd against, it's Oscar DeLaHoya- the ultimate big fight disappointment. -- CHICO CORRALES....A FIGHTING LEGEND
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Re: WHAT IS OSCAR DELAHOYA'S BOXING LEGACY?
Jun 5, 2007 11:21 AM
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> > > Although, to be completely honest, I agree with > a > > > decent amount of your sentiment. Just hard to > > take > > > it seriously from someone who legitimately > cannot > > > tell running from counterpunching, and who does > > not > > > take the time to acknowledge order in the sport > > when > > > it actually exists. > > > > Jose Luis Castillo is one of the best > > counter-punchers there is on the inside but he > > doesn't run. Mike Tyson was a great > counter-puncher > > as well but could've run a little more later in > his > > career. > > > > What Bigs is referring to is running and > potshotting > > from the outside. Something Daniel Santos did to > beat > > Yory Boy Campas for which he was criticized by > MOST > > on here as being a pussy of a fighter yet was able > to > > stop him in the eleventh round with what you are > > referring to as counter-punching!!! > > > > -- > > RIP - Diego "Chico" Corrales > > very interesting that santos fights the same type of > fiht as pbf and gets ridiculed while pbf gets > praised. and they wonder why they call them > nutlickers. > Kinda like how Barerra "boxed beautifully" against Juarez in the second fight.. but Mayweather runs.. or how SRL was the definition of all that is great in boxing in the second Duran fight and against Hagler.. but Mayweather runs. or...
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