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1. Floyd Mayweather
2. Paul Williams
3. Shane Mosley
4. Miguel Cotto
5. Antonio Margarito
6. Kermit Cintron
7. Zab Judah
8. Joshua Clottey
9. Alphonso Gomez
10. Andre Berto
I still feel that Floyd matches up with all these guys fairly well and will beat them all. The only one I'm not willing to bet the farm on is WIilliams. That kid has the height, range, power, heart and skill to beat Mayweather.....just not right now.
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Re: Ranking the Welterweights
Jul 31, 2007 4:29 PM
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> Cory Spinks...Travis Simms...Roman Karmazin...Ouma
Sechew Powell...Alfonso Gomez
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Re: Ranking the Welterweights
Jul 31, 2007 4:25 PM
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Cory Spinks...Travis Simms...Roman Karmazin...Ouma
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Re: Ranking the Welterweights
Jul 31, 2007 4:22 PM
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Fair enough.
Who?
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Re: Ranking the Welterweights
Jul 31, 2007 4:14 PM
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Vernon now has a championship belt.
Even outside of mandatories, he'll have people to fight.
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Re: Ranking the Welterweights
Jul 31, 2007 4:13 PM
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That's true about Margarito, but Vernon is the same way for everyone.
Who's going to fight him? Probably a fighter nobody cares about at 154 that would be just as difficult as Margarito.
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Re: Ranking the Welterweights
Jul 31, 2007 4:05 PM
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> The guy Vernon should take on is Margarito.
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I'm sorry. I think Margarito is all downside for Vernon. No upside.
If Vernon beats him, so what. Williams already 'exposed' AM.
If Vernon loses, he has derailed his comback.
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Re: Ranking the Welterweights
Jul 31, 2007 3:49 PM
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He is basically a torso on stilts.
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Re: Ranking the Welterweights
Jul 31, 2007 3:48 PM
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As I pointed out before his upper body is disproportionate to his lower body.
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Re: Ranking the Welterweights
Jul 31, 2007 3:47 PM
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The guy Vernon should take on is Margarito.
Margarito is going to be out of the loop at 147 for the next few months and Vernon doesn't have a dance partner right now. This will be good for both fighters. Tony can get belt in a different division and Vernon can continue his comeback agaisnt another name opponent.
I would take Forrest by late KO. Margarito like Baldomir has the style to make Forrest look very good again.
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Re: Ranking the Welterweights
Jul 31, 2007 3:42 PM
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> Forrest was a VEREY big WW. It is kind of amazing
> that he can still make 154 even after all those
> injuries and inactivity.
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> I swear. Some of these ww's and jmw's look HUGE to
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> I can barely tell the difference (in size) between
> Jermain Taylor and Cintron/Sechew/Forrest/etc.
I was thinking the same thing when watching Forrest on Saturday.
I thought to myself...dude must have low density bones or something, cause he looks HUGE!
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Re: Ranking the Welterweights
Jul 31, 2007 3:41 PM
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> Forrest was a VEREY big WW. It is kind of amazing
> that he can still make 154 even after all those
> injuries and inactivity.
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> I swear. Some of these ww's and jmw's look HUGE to
> me.
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> Jermain Taylor and Cintron/Sechew/Forrest/etc.
Yeah its crazy, but some people just carry weight well, bone structure all that stuff. After injuries being 6'1 Forrest can make 154 and Gatti can't make 140lbs. I guess its the luck of the draw.
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Re: Ranking the Welterweights
Jul 31, 2007 3:37 PM
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Forrest was a VEREY big WW. It is kind of amazing that he can still make 154 even after all those injuries and inactivity.
I swear. Some of these ww's and jmw's look HUGE to me.
I can barely tell the difference (in size) between Jermain Taylor and Cintron/Sechew/Forrest/etc.
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Re: Ranking the Welterweights
Jul 31, 2007 3:33 PM
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> I think that while Vernon fought well, the issue that
> might be overlooked here is that Baldomir is not hard
> to look good against.
The fact he looked good was important, coming off injuries regardless who the opponent was. IMO it wasn't that he was dominant. He looked sharp. I'll compare it when Hatton fought Urango. He pretty much dominated the fight but he didn't look to sharp after about 6rnds. Even when Forrest got a little of tired, he knew when to pick his spots, still throw punches. Baldomir at 147 was not that strong of a puncher and at 154 he couldn't really hurt Forrest(Forrest couldn't hurt him either).
I'd like to see Forrest take on Winky, the winner of Mayorga/Vargas(why not).Maybe go up to take on Sergio Mora. Those are realistic fights for him. He might want Oscar or try to get Mayweather to come back up to 154 but those scenarios are unlikely.
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Re: Ranking the Welterweights
Jul 31, 2007 3:19 PM
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Teddy Atlas is pretty dogmatic in his fight analysis as well. I still don't mind listening to either him or Manny though. They both seem to have these know it all attitudes though. What they need is someone to divert the viewers attention away from their long-winded rants which do at times become tiresome.
Kellerman tries to imitate these two who I believe he looks up to.
Merchant uses outrageous analogies and Jim Lampley seems more interested in the ring card girls lately than the fight.
Bob Papa is a pretty good commentator and I feel Lennox and Kellerman have a good repoirre with each other.
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Re: Ranking the Welterweights
Jul 30, 2007 6:42 PM
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> I think that while Vernon fought well, the issue that
> might be overlooked here is that Baldomir is not hard
> to look good against.
Says the guy in the "Judah Cartel" jersey.
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