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Shane Moseley or Floyd Mayweather: Who was the better lightweight? Who would win at 135?
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Re: Sugar Shane or Pretty Boy Floyd at 135?
Aug 22, 2008 1:30 PM
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Jack
But this has nothing to do with history or being right or wrong...
Its a simple question, if This guy fought this guy who do you think would win?
You know?? Like you said you thought Floyd would've beaten Shane at lightweight.
I like to know your rationale for picking fights.
For example, In my opinion as much as I like Antonio Margarito he would get his face blown to smithereens if he ever fought either prime welterweight Tito or welterweight Tommy Hearns, because of what those guys brought to the table, Vs what Margarito brings to the table.
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Re: Sugar Shane or Pretty Boy Floyd at 135?
Aug 21, 2008 7:10 PM
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See FF,
Here we go again... Alexis Arguello vs Shane Mosley...
Both giving exceptional contributions to the sport of boxing. Both accomplished fighters and stars in their respective eras.
Lovely to have an opinion, both are right? Both are wrong? Unless they fight and sort it out (which they cannot) EVERYTHING is speculation.
IF they never fought here are examples outcomes that EXPERTS would have sworn their lives on for the eventual loser...
Cotto / Margarito
Foreman / ALi
Douglas / Tyson
Toney / Nunn
Ali / Liston
Ali / Norton 1
Jones Jr. / Tarver
Mayweather / Corrales
Duran / Moore
Duran / Barkley
Barkley / Hearns 1
And many, many, many, many more....
That's why I do like the adage, "That's why they fight the fights!"
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Re: Sugar Shane or Pretty Boy Floyd at 135?
Aug 21, 2008 2:52 PM
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> I think you've been getting your head filled up with
> h a lot of nonsese. You got Uncle Joe telling you
> about Aaron pryor getting "ducked". Uncle Joe was
> f*ckin' wrong, chief. Just like you.
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> Your supposed boxing background isn't doing you
> u much....you talked out your ass about Arguello
> never being known to have trouble with slicksters, &
> I pointed out a LOSS to a slickster.
> Check your tapes & your magazines a little harder, &
> & find some articles about Arguello from the early
> 80's. it was well-known, & frequently discussed, that
> he had trouble with guys who boxed well. I think Ol'
> uncle Joe was too liquored up to hand you down the
> right info.
ZING!
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Re: Sugar Shane or Pretty Boy Floyd at 135?
Aug 20, 2008 3:26 PM
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> How about Lindsay Hunter??
The Bionic Woman ???
Wait, that's Lindsay Wagner.
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Re: Sugar Shane or Pretty Boy Floyd at 135?
Aug 20, 2008 3:25 PM
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And since we're at it the sportsguy also has a list called the "Lindsey Hunter All-Stars" of male athletes with names that make them sound like a hot girl...
Some of the names...
Tatum Bell
Keary Colbert
Coco Crisp
Lynn Greer
Lindsey Hunter
Aubrey Huff
Courtney Lee
Ashley Lelie
Tracy McGrady
Alexis Rios
Kelley Washington
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Edited by ffontan at 08/20/2008 12:26 PM PDT
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Re: Sugar Shane or Pretty Boy Floyd at 135?
Aug 20, 2008 3:24 PM
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> I posted it in here before, but the single worst name
> in all of sports=
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> Ashley Lelie
I think I would be doing a Mohammed Ali if I were that dude.
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Re: Sugar Shane or Pretty Boy Floyd at 135?
Aug 20, 2008 3:23 PM
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How about Lindsey Hunter??
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Edited by ffontan at 08/20/2008 12:26 PM PDT
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Re: Sugar Shane or Pretty Boy Floyd at 135?
Aug 20, 2008 3:22 PM
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I posted it in here before, but the single worst name in all of sports=
Ashley Lelie
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Re: Sugar Shane or Pretty Boy Floyd at 135?
Aug 20, 2008 3:19 PM
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> lmao.
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> Black dudes, with white guys' names-
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> Ryan Howard
> Fred McGriff
> Frank Thomas
> Barry Bonds
> Jimmy Price
The flip side, white guys with Black sounding names
Reggie Cleveland
Mack Brown
Khalil Greene
Moonlight Graham
The Sportguy has a list called the Reggie Cleveland All-Stars in honor of guys whose name sound like they are from a different ethnicity...
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Re: Sugar Shane or Pretty Boy Floyd at 135?
Aug 20, 2008 3:12 PM
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> >Way off...I am older than you, & have been following
> the game longer than you.
> I don't need to ever look up boxrec.com to discuss
> things.
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> sure your older than me. dont mean shit you old
> fart.
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> untill your in the ring since 5 like i have,been to
> world champion training camps, 200 plus fights live.
> have 100's and 100's of film. talking to legends for
> hrs and hrs just about boxing. your not on my level.
I think you've been getting your head filled up with a lot of nonsese. You got Uncle Joe telling you about Aaron pryor getting "ducked". Uncle Joe was f*ckin' wrong, chief. Just like you.
Your supposed boxing background isn't doing you much....you talked out your ass about Arguello never being known to have trouble with slicksters, & I pointed out a LOSS to a slickster.
Check your tapes & your magazines a little harder, & find some articles about Arguello from the early 80's. it was well-known, & frequently discussed, that he had trouble with guys who boxed well. I think Ol' uncle Joe was too liquored up to hand you down the right info.
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Re: Sugar Shane or Pretty Boy Floyd at 135?
Aug 20, 2008 2:38 PM
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>Way off...I am older than you, & have been following the game longer than you.
I don't need to ever look up boxrec.com to discuss things.
sure your older than me. dont mean shit you old fart.
untill your in the ring since 5 like i have,been to world champion training camps, 200 plus fights live. have 100's and 100's of film. talking to legends for hrs and hrs just about boxing. your not on my level.
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Re: Sugar Shane or Pretty Boy Floyd at 135?
Aug 20, 2008 2:31 PM
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How old are you, pro ?
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Re: Sugar Shane or Pretty Boy Floyd at 135?
Aug 20, 2008 2:28 PM
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> >apparently know a lot more about Arguello than you
> do.
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> >Here's what I know, & you don't-
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> >While he was 130lb champ, he lost an embarrassing 10
> rd fight to Violmar Fernandez, a slickster.
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> ok jabs you win.
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> a 15 round fight fernadez would of beaten arguello?
> think about it.
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> cuz hes wat i know fighters feared to fight alexis if
> it went past 11-12. thats when alexis turned it up.
> if he didnt KO you early. he would stopped you late.
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> now look up that one on boxrec
Way off...I am older than you, & have been following the game longer than you.
I don't need to ever look up boxrec.com to discuss things.
At the end of ten rds, Arguello hadn't layed a glove on Fernandez, who was still fresh. Odds are Arguello doesn't catch him in those last 5.
Arguello had done zero damage to Fernandez, like he did Mancini, or gone 12 hard rds with like he did with Olivares.
boxrec doesn't supply you with that info, does it ?
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Re: Sugar Shane or Pretty Boy Floyd at 135?
Aug 20, 2008 2:24 PM
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>apparently know a lot more about Arguello than you do.
>Here's what I know, & you don't-
>While he was 130lb champ, he lost an embarrassing 10 rd fight to Violmar Fernandez, a slickster.
ok jabs you win.
a 15 round fight fernadez would of beaten arguello? think about it.
cuz hes wat i know fighters feared to fight alexis if it went past 11-12. thats when alexis turned it up. if he didnt KO you early. he would stopped you late.
now look up that one on boxrec
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Re: Sugar Shane or Pretty Boy Floyd at 135?
Aug 20, 2008 2:13 PM
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> alexis had problems with faster guys?
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> really? thats a 1st. alexis styles of the
> boxer/puncher in a 15 RDs would have beaten chavez.
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> chavez was great, but ppl forget alexis and only
> remembered for pryor I and II. the dude was amazing.
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> i didnt see problems for alexis he dominated
> feather,superfeather and LW
I apparently know a lot more about Arguello than you do.
Here's what I know, & you don't-
While he was 130lb champ, he lost an embarrassing 10 rd fight to Violmar Fernandez, a slickster.
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