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I just wanted to make my comments about this tournament.
This is something that will be fun for boxing. The welterweights may have the "bigger names" but this division is just as if not more talented.
Mikkel Kessler, Arthur Abraham, Andre Ward, Andre Direll, Carl Froch, and Jermain Taylor will battle it out for supremacy.
My only problem is Allan Green is not in this tournament. I wish he was in it or he replaced Jermain Taylor. Jermain will fade in each of his three fights in the tournament(we ll see) maybe he'll get his rematch with Froch.
Kessler should be the fav but I'll be pulling for Ward.
First two match ups
Abraham vs Taylor
Froch vs Direll
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Re: Super Middleweight Super Six Tournament
Aug 4, 2009 10:34 PM
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Jermaine Taylor is the dark horse of this tourney........ and rightfully so, lol.
Kessler is gonna clean house IMO........
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Re: Super Middleweight Super Six Tournament
Aug 4, 2009 9:51 PM
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i think even though dirrell is boring i thionk he is a very difficult matchup for anyone but i expect kessler to take the whole thing... dirrell will beat alot of these guys with his boxing ability ... the same way he shut out stevens..
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Re: Super Middleweight Super Six Tournament
Aug 4, 2009 4:18 PM
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listing the 6 in likelihood ...
1. Kessler - pretty clearly the best guy from the resume ... his inactivity is an issue. Beatable of course, but best combination of polish and power. Loss to Calzaghe was more Calzaghe's greatest night than anything Kessler did poorly.
2. Abraham - given what happened in the second Miranda fight, the thunder moving up with him is a non issue. Pretty clearly the puncher of the group. But still the least experienced 168.
3. Ward - the most raw talent, and the guy who could benefit the most from winning this tournament, and the result most beneficial to the American sport
4. Dirrell - more polished than Ward, but the stinker against Stevens is hard to forgive. But the thrashing of Hanshaw cleaned some of that up. Really the top 4 guys are all likely guys to win this, a distinct top tier.
5. Froch - he and Taylor are the guys who'd surprise me the most ... Froch has the head to head win, so I give him the props.
6. Taylor - stamina has been a problem. And he has not stopped anybody in eons. And he has been stopped before and this field is full of restaurant quality bangers. Short answer - uh oh.
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Re: Super Middleweight Super Six Tournament
Aug 4, 2009 4:09 PM
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BTW: Just want to throw out a little prediction:
Carl Froch gets KO'd cold.
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Re: Super Middleweight Super Six Tournament
Aug 4, 2009 4:06 PM
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I'd love to see JT do something here, but my guess is that since he's already lost to the worst of the bunch, the buck stops pretty early on. I do think he could get past Froch, but everyone else would get the edge over him IMO.
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Re: Super Middleweight Super Six Tournament
Aug 4, 2009 4:04 PM
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3 black americans and 3 white europeans....nice in-group/out-group stuff to be seen in this tourney, methinks.
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Re: Super Middleweight Super Six Tournament
Aug 4, 2009 3:58 PM
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Should be a great tournament though, im looking forward to it, dont sleep on Jermain Taylor though.
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Re: Super Middleweight Super Six Tournament
Aug 4, 2009 11:16 AM
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> I don't know about Froch/Dirrell, but I do know that
> JT is getting knocked out again.
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LOL. All you gotta do is get JT past round 6 and he is yours for the taken. Thats what he showed against Froch. Id like to see him redeem himself in this tourney but how can one have faith in him now.
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Re: Super Middleweight Super Six Tournament
Aug 4, 2009 11:14 AM
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> Lawsuit could interfere with Super Six
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> See, the fighters are ready and willing....it's the
> e blood-sucking businessmen who make the deals who
> are the detroyers of the sport.
I just read the story on ESPN. Couldnt agree with you more. To me it just sounds like a bitter promoter. The reality is he aint done nothing with Kessler anyway . Ever since the Calzaghe fight has he really been relevant (at least in America) Now he is significant and a lot of people favor him to win the tournament which could lead him to bigger pay days
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Re: Super Middleweight Super Six Tournament
Aug 4, 2009 11:12 AM
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I don't know about Froch/Dirrell, but I do know that JT is getting knocked out again.
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Re: Super Middleweight Super Six Tournament
Aug 4, 2009 7:00 AM
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Lawsuit could interfere with Super Six
See, the fighters are ready and willing....it's the blood-sucking businessmen who make the deals who are the detroyers of the sport.
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Re: Super Middleweight Super Six Tournament
Aug 4, 2009 1:44 AM
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Lawsuit could interfere with Super Six
When Showtime announced the Super Six World Boxing Classic last month, one thing most boxing folks and fans agreed on was that the round-robin tournament featuring six top super middleweights was a fabulous idea, but one that certainly would have some bumps along the road during the 18-month trek from the Oct. 17 opening bouts to the final.
The tournament hasn't started yet, but already there could be -- I repeat, could be -- a problem.
And I'm not talking about the fact that titleholder Mikkel Kessler and Andre Ward, who are scheduled to meet in their opening bout Nov. 21, are taking so-called "tune-up" fights on a special edition of Showtime's "ShoBox" on Sept. 12.
Naturally, there is the possibility that Kessler could lose or get hurt against mandatory challenger Gusmyl Perdomo. Ditto for Ward, who faces the likely nonthreatening Shelby Pudwill (who once was knocked out by John Duddy in one round at middleweight). You just never know what's going to happen when the bell rings.
Outside the ring, however, there also could be trouble brewing.
Mogens Palle, who has promoted boxing in Denmark for more than 50 years, is not letting go of Kessler so easily, even though Kessler dumped Palle after a 10-year run together and recently signed with German powerhouse promoter Sauerland Event just before the tournament became official.
Palle is threatening to sue everyone under the sun for interfering with what he believes is a valid promotional contract with Kessler.
"I've been biting my tongue for too long, and now I want to set the record straight about Kessler, about the pirate promoter Sauerland Event and the pirate cable TV network Showtime," Palle said. "I am suing or will sue Kessler, Sauerland and Showtime. I will pursue my breach of contract and other legal claims against all of these parties and some others who have interfered with my existing and ongoing exclusive promotional contact with the WBA super middleweight champion.
"Showtime's Ken Hershman never called me about putting Kessler into the Super Six tournament that Showtime and other [European] networks are financing. Clearly, Hershman and Showtime purposely and knowingly interfered with my promotional contract when Sauerland got together with them."
Palle claims Kessler signed a three-fight extension with him but ran out on him without honoring their deal.
"It is all written down in the contract that I have the exclusive right to promote three more Kessler bouts," Palle said. "Obviously, those rights are extremely valuable. But I am going to fight Kessler, Sauerland, Showtime and any others involved in such contractual interference in every court and in every country I need to. It's not only about money; it's also about principle."
Palle compared the situation to that of a fight in which the referee tells each boxer to protect himself at all times.
"When Sauerland and the interfering TV network Showtime work together, all boxing promoters and managers are advised to do the same, to protect their contractual rights," Palle said. "I am just doing what Showtime would do if someone interfered with and ran off with one of their popular television shows, with any program they have legal rights to. I wish Kessler continued success in the ring. But, in a court of law in Denmark and in the United States, the contract that Kessler intelligently and freely signed and agreed to will prevail."
"When Sauerland and the interfering TV network Showtime work together, all boxing promoters and managers are advised to do the same, to protect their contractual rights," Palle said. "I am just doing what Showtime would do if someone interfered with and ran off with one of their popular television shows, with any program they have legal rights to. I wish Kessler continued success in the ring. But, in a court of law in Denmark and in the United States, the contract that Kessler intelligently and freely signed and agreed to, will prevail."
When Sauerland signed Kessler, it announced that his contract with Palle was up and that he was free to look for a new promoter.
Chris Meyer, the general manager of Sauerland Event, told ESPN.com, "Neither Mikkel, we or Showtime have violated any rights. Kessler is with Palle in Danish court for quite a while, and we have reviewed his attorney's contentions that no contract exists between Palle and Kessler. Palle can sue whomever he wants. But it does not give him any options or any rights over Mikkel Kessler at all. He simply does not have a valid contract with Kessler."
Regardless of the threats of litigation, Showtime is moving forward with the tournament. It even unveiled its first promotional spots touting the tournament during its two boxing telecasts over the weekend.
Hershman, who came up with the idea for the Super Six and runs Showtime's boxing programming, wouldn't address Palle's complaint, offering only, "We don't comment on litigation."
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Re: Super Middleweight Super Six Tournament
Aug 3, 2009 3:04 PM
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> >
> > HBO needs to do something like this but all of
> their
> > fighters will probably complain about money.
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> just not many divisions where you can do it ... and
> HBO has (incorrectly if you ask me) turned away from
> smaller divisions ... that said, a 140 tourney is
> totally possible (though once again Showtime has most
> of the fighters who would be in play)
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> a 135 tournament though would have a lot of potential
> ... deep, entertaining and relatively cheap fighters,
> for instance ...
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> Edwin Valero, Michael Katsidis, Juan Diaz, Ali
> Funeka, Humberto Soto, Joel Casamayor would work ...
> I would not mind swapping out Casamayor more someone
> more TV friendly.
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SK boxing has nothing but divisions. The latter problem about HBO not showcasing smaller divisions has been an issue. But we all know the problem is money. Like you just said "a 135 tournament though would have a lot of potential
> ... deep, entertaining and relatively cheap fighters" the key being cheap. Thats the problem with the welters, no one wants to fight everyone wants to get paid.
Every divison except for maybe 160lbs. Could probably put together a decent tourney like this. Money and getting everyone on board is the hard part
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Re: Super Middleweight Super Six Tournament
Aug 3, 2009 2:50 PM
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> HBO needs to do something like this but all of their
> fighters will probably complain about money.
just not many divisions where you can do it ... and HBO has (incorrectly if you ask me) turned away from smaller divisions ... that said, a 140 tourney is totally possible (though once again Showtime has most of the fighters who would be in play)
a 135 tournament though would have a lot of potential ... deep, entertaining and relatively cheap fighters, for instance ...
Edwin Valero, Michael Katsidis, Juan Diaz, Ali Funeka, Humberto Soto, Joel Casamayor would work ... I would not mind swapping out Casamayor more someone more TV friendly.
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Re: Super Middleweight Super Six Tournament
Aug 3, 2009 2:50 PM
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It's good Kessler has joined with Sauerlund; they are a top promotion company in Europe......... but Mogens Palle? What? lol.......... Does Mogen Palle promote any other big names in boxing?
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