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Re: Past, Present and Future
Jul 17, 2004 5:05 PM
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> But now that the "illegal" Mexican/American War is
> over, and "Northern Mexico" has been a part of the
> United States for over an hundred and fifty years,
> one might pause and ask the officials and prominent
> citizens of Southern Mexico, "So... what have you
> done with your part of Mexico in the last
> century or so?"
>
> Oh. I see.
> You might need a little cash to tide you over, and
> you were just hoping that a few (million) of you can
> crash at our place for a couple of decades or so,
> just until you get on your feet.
> Well, um... ok. No problem... I guess... (As long as
> some of us can still get some really cheap and crappy
> weed from you guys every now and then.)
>
> perspective, which twists in and out on itself, with
> no real direction, I know, but...
> Hey!
> What's that behind you!
> Duck!
> ***poof!***
>
> Luv,
> E!
Yikes...just dodged that mule patty!
Something that was a point of concern 20 years ago when I studied International Development was the question of
"What would happen to the world economy if Mexico bailed on the 'debt' it had accrued with the USA?"
I just wonder what would happen if they really put their mind to stopping 'the flow of illegal immigrants' ( bringing the economy to the 'here and now')
Where would Walmart be then?
lol
and Hee Haw!
( before I start spewing chunks of lunch from my stomach, heart and lungs .....hope the vomitus doesn't stain my dingy sense of idealism, eh?)
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Jul 17, 2004 2:41 PM
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> > You know, it might be the time to take the 9-11
> decal
> > off your car, and launder the flag hanging on the
> > doorway, and think about the world we all want to
> > leave to our children.
>
> karaoke:
> And your flag decal won't get you
> Into Heaven any more.
> We're already overcrowded,
> From your dirty little war.
> Now Jesus don't like killin'
> No matter what the reason's for,
> And your flag decal won't get you
> Into Heaven anymore....
>
> I believe Urnist already quoted that - at least once.
> 
>
> E!
Hey, I am also a big fan of John Prine...
'Memories, they can't be boughten, they can't be won at carnivales for free...'
lol
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Jul 16, 2004 10:32 AM
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Good morning, Marion!
> Minerva,
>
> So do I. (Australia. Of course, it's also
> mandatory.)
>
> The problem here, I think, is often the electoral
> college thing. When I first heard about it, I just
> couldn't believe it. You mean your individual vote
> doesn't really mean anything? I know people in New
> York who feel very strongly about this election, but
> may not even bother to vote, because New York is so
> strongly Democratic that they feel one more or less
> Democratic won't make a difference. T was saying the
> other day that Kansas is just the opposite.
>
> Why oh why can't we come up with a way to vote
> directly? This is absurd!
>
I couldn't agree with you more. I too was astounded when I first learned about this process. I think that the electoral college thing has layed a major role in the lack of enthusiasm many Americans have for the voting process. "Why should we vote? My vote will possibly be vetoed anyway. It doesn't matter how I feel about the issues, or the candidate, or what the hell's happening in my life. My opinion doesn't matter." I think that we should all be counted as individuals in this regard. Fuck the electoral college. Sorry for the profanity so early in the day, but I feel very strongly about this.
So, how 'bout that weather today, huh? :D
Love,
Kat
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Jul 16, 2004 10:27 AM
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> ooooohhhhh-aaaaahhhh!
>
> The post muncher has been here...I was bad.
> LOL
Oh, Man! I always miss the good stuff! I've been trying for the past few minutes to just locate this place and post! They must be starting the relocation process. Had to get here the back way.
Good Morning, everyone!
I'm free...
I'm free...
Great Gawd Almighty, I'm free at last! :D
Kat
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Jul 16, 2004 10:17 AM
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ooooohhhhh-aaaaahhhh!
The post muncher has been here...I was bad.
LOL
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Re: Past, Present and Future
Jul 16, 2004 9:45 AM
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> > > minerva-
> > > I once thought more people should vote. These
> days
> > I
> > > think it is just as well they don't. Many
> people
> > > don't even deal with the news. Then there are
> > flakes
> > > like me that read so much that they are just as
> > much
> > > in the dark. The more I read, the less I want
> any
> > of
> > > the candidates.
> > > Therefore, I am grateful for term limits.
> > >
> > > I think of so many friends that decided to
> > infiltrate
> > > the system to change it- what a jioke. They are
> > > drowning there now- trying to find a way out!
> >
> > I haven't the slightest idea what you are talking
> > about, but I've known many political activists and
> > they are mostly thriving.
> >
> > Bri
>
> What am I talking? SWAHILI!?
I am unsure if you are speaking an earthly language. I give up? what language is it?
Bri
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Jul 16, 2004 9:25 AM
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Minerva,
So do I. (Australia. Of course, it's also mandatory.)
The problem here, I think, is often the electoral college thing. When I first heard about it, I just couldn't believe it. You mean your individual vote doesn't really mean anything? I know people in New York who feel very strongly about this election, but may not even bother to vote, because New York is so strongly Democratic that they feel one more or less Democratic won't make a difference. T was saying the other day that Kansas is just the opposite.
Why oh why can't we come up with a way to vote directly? This is absurd!
> I come from a country where almost ALL of our
> citizens vote.
>
> We, like many other countries, are buffeted by your
> countries policies, actions, and inactions.
>
> I am simply baffled by your low voting rate.....it's
> like you don't even care what happens in your own
> country, much less elsewhere.... and you have so much
> control over world events whether you realize it or
> not.
>
> You know, it might be the time to take the 9-11 decal
> off your car, and launder the flag hanging on the
> doorway, and think about the world we all want to
> leave to our children.
>
> Because, although 'America' is built upon the highest
> human values, it's application , both overt and
> covert, is a travesty of freedom, happiness, dignity,
> and tolerance these days.
>
> And that's a God damn shame, and waste of human
> potential.
>
> ( and this is what I meant about 'Canadians,
> political discussions, and the weather'......we have
> a crazy notion that we have some control over
> politics.....or the future... so we don't shy away
> from talking about governmental and world matters. Or
> voting either. Discussing the weather is a different
> deal entirely.
>
> That might cause a fight eh? lol)
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Jul 16, 2004 9:21 AM
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> karaoke:
> And your flag decal won't get you
> Into Heaven any more.
> We're already overcrowded,
> From your dirty little war.
> Now Jesus don't like killin'
> No matter what the reason's for,
> And your flag decal won't get you
> Into Heaven anymore....
>
> I believe Urnist already quoted that - at least once.
>
>
> E!
Ah! But I always love Prine-
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Re: Past, Present and Future
Jul 16, 2004 9:18 AM
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> > minerva-
> > I once thought more people should vote. These days
> I
> > think it is just as well they don't. Many people
> > don't even deal with the news. Then there are
> flakes
> > like me that read so much that they are just as
> much
> > in the dark. The more I read, the less I want any
> of
> > the candidates.
> > Therefore, I am grateful for term limits.
> >
> > I think of so many friends that decided to
> infiltrate
> > the system to change it- what a jioke. They are
> > drowning there now- trying to find a way out!
>
> I haven't the slightest idea what you are talking
> about, but I've known many political activists and
> they are mostly thriving.
>
> Bri
What am I talking? SWAHILI!?
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Jul 16, 2004 9:16 AM
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E! - I just love this! Except for the last one - it only leaves 5 of us in the country to vote.
> So here goes, the EVIL! List Of:
>
> You should NOT vote if...
>
> You think the Federalist Papers are just
> something prisoners roll tobacco in.
>
> You think "Speaker of the House" is just another name
> for the DJ in your local dance club.
>
> Your profound respect for Abraham Lincoln is based
> merely upon his brilliant invention, Lincoln
> Logs.
>
> You're sure that Manifest Destiny must have
> something to do with Destiny's Child.
>
> You think George Washington Carver had a younger
> brother named Billy, mainly known for his beer.
>
> You think the French Revolution was mostly all about
> the Dixie Chicks boycott.
>
> You don't know the difference between Mark Twain and
> Mark Twain't.
>
> You believe that government has the power to make all
> your dreams come true -- if it could just get its
> hands on that damned "1%!"
>
> You believe that AIDS was caused either by, a) the
> CIA, b) extraterrestrial monkeys from the future, or
> c) a vengeful and homophobic Gawd.
>
> You think Pittsburgh is the capitol of Pottsdam.
>
> You think that the Superbowl is symbolic of American
> Purity and Goodness, and No Place for Wanton
> Gratification of Primitive Instincts.
>
> You don't even know your left from wrong.
>
> You can't spell "its" without using an apostrophe.
>
> Luv,
> MGMT
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Jul 16, 2004 9:16 AM
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Bri-
Ever notice that you are the only one that ever tells another that they should leave the boards? I've noticed.
and that is ALL I will say about it.
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Jul 16, 2004 9:07 AM
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> It's reassuring to me that you feel better having
> been clever ( did you notice my appropriate use of an
> apostrophe in that sentence? I knew that you would,
> lol).
>
> I'm appealing to those who have some sense of shame
> or embarrassment about the very evident complacency
> that surrounds our activities.
>
Ah! Minerva! I cannot help but think that I triggered that comment!
Damn, the truth is a long story. Twenty years ago I thought marching in the streets with the homeless to demonstrate their right to vote was a good idea. I cajoled, I bribed, I threatened. I gave extra credit which could be used as criteria for an extended stay at the shelter. I tried. It is the perfect example of busy work. Because I was wrong.
> and PS
>
> If your government is off around the world squashing
> governments, training 'freedom fighters', and killing
> people in the name of spreading Democracy, I think
> you should educate even your most limited and
> deprived citizens to the extent that they may
> freaking VOTE with a 'sound mind' eh?
> see above
> In the interest of promoting the concept that we are
> all created equal, and endowed by our Creator, and
> all that rot.
>
In middle age, I find that local activities are more meaningful and more effective. I have no control of the man in the whitehouse. Nor congress, nor the senate. On a good day, I can control my own behavior.
> Because I hold these truthes to be self evident....
>
>
> Peace
Ditto. But some people do not feel equal.
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Jul 16, 2004 8:51 AM
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Ray!
The next round is on me coz I did appreciate that eye opener!
Your list is better than mine. It makes sense.
Mine starts with;
"If your family hasn't been in this country 10 generations...."
ROTF!
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Jul 16, 2004 4:26 AM
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> You know, it might be the time to take the 9-11 decal
> off your car, and launder the flag hanging on the
> doorway, and think about the world we all want to
> leave to our children.
karaoke:
And your flag decal won't get you
Into Heaven any more.
We're already overcrowded,
From your dirty little war.
Now Jesus don't like killin'
No matter what the reason's for,
And your flag decal won't get you
Into Heaven anymore....
I believe Urnist already quoted that - at least once.
E!
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