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HBO: ?Deadwood? Not Quite Dead; Milch Cop Drama Update Deadwood (HBO)?Deadwood? fans: It?s not quite over. But, once again, it?s not looking good. HBO broke its silence on recent reports that the ?Deadwood? sets have been dismantled with a statement that gives a slim ray of hope for fans of the acclaimed series, while shedding some new light on showrunner David Milch?s next project. ?There are no current plans to make the movies,? an HBO representative told TelevisionWeek, adding that Milch says the dismantling of the sets makes little difference to the fate of the project. The pair of two-hour movies take place after the town of Deadwood is destroyed by fire and floods, thus the sets are unnecessary. However: Milch is developing a new drama for HBO set in the New York Police Department (a reunion of sorts for the showrunner, who got his start working on "Hill Street Blues"). HBO gave some fresh detail about the project: The drama is set in the 1970s and involves the Knapp Commission investigations. The Knapp-era gave rise to the story of patrolman Frank Serpico, whose revelations about corruption within the department were made into a popular book and film. As with the short-lived ?John From Cincinnati,? HBO expects Milch to focus on one project at a time. So if the NYPD drama gets a series order, there?s very little chance the ?Deadwood? films will be made. Even if the NYPD drama fizzles out, Milch could, as he did after ?Cincinnati,? turn his attention to a new project. So: Very little chance either way, but neither HBO nor Milch will rule out the movies. Wednesday, October 10, 2007 http://www.tvweek.com/blogs/james-hibberd/2007/
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Re: Deadwood: Not Quite Dead
Aug 26, 2008 2:54 PM
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hey dont feel bad for cancelling HBO most of us already have due to their stupidity over handling their series....yes we all miss DW and what a shame HBO doesnt GET IT......
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Re: Deadwood: Not Quite Dead
Aug 25, 2008 1:38 PM
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i miss the hell outta deadwood!!!!! bring it back,,, replace entourage with it!!
hbo needs some new quality tv soon!!!!
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Re: Answer To HBO's Problems Re: Deadwood: Not Quite Dead
Aug 23, 2008 2:16 PM
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As two comparing the shows (I think you are referring to In treatment and Tell me You Love ME) I am comparing the general topic they cover. couples seeing therapists. Its as if NBC had ER and then added another hospital show like Chicago Hope (I know its no longer around its just an example)on the same night. generally they are alike, but in specifics they are not.
As for Vampires being in I believe you are being sarcastic. But if not just look at all the vampire movie flops in the past decade.
I am not comparing Carnivale directly to DW. I am comparing the circumstances in which HBO started cancelling shows. Of course Carnivale is not at close to the greatness of DW, but it did have a loyal audience and that started the downward trend of HBO cancelling popular shows w/o concluding them. About the $$ of course its always about the $$$, but looking at Gen Kill, that show does not look at all cheap.
I am not threatening HBO I am just saying I am cancelling it since they broke their promise. well, I had HBO for 20 years, so if loosing a long time customer does not bother them, then that is the attitude that has gotten them to where no one is watching their shows anymore.
One more note, as far as the Sopranos it never lived up to Deadwood, its popular culture that made it so watched. If the American public had a higher IQ then DW and Rome would of got the ratings of the Sopranos. Hell, look at American Idol and WWE, they attract the lowest common denominator, the dumbest of the dumb and these two shows are the most wathced shows on TV. As far as the Sopranos the creator wanted to end the show a long time ago why do you think there were so many long interruptions between seasons and the short seasons also. David Chase lost interest in it a long time ago. You can tell by the way the series went downhill after the 4th season.
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Re: Answer To HBO's Problems Re: Deadwood: Not Quite Dead
Aug 22, 2008 3:19 PM
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> In the next few days I will be cancelling my HBO due
> to the fact that HBO will not produce the DW movies.
> I waited and waited giving HBO the benifit of the
> e doubt and now I know for sure they will not make
> the movies and lied to the public about doing so.
>
> Doesn't HBO recognize the connection of the failure
> of of their newer series (Gen Kill, In Treatment,
> tell Me You Love Me, etc.) with their cancellations
> of very popular shows with a large loyal fanbase
> primarily DW, but it started with Carnival, DW, and
> then Rome. Especially the way HBO handled these
> cancellations. Don't they see the public does not
> want to see these shows, becuase of how HBO treated
> the public with what they did to DW? The public have
> seemed to boycott HBO series saying will will not
> watch anymore HBO series until the DW movies are
> made, and until HBO stops ending popular shows w/o
> good reason, and ending them in the middle of the
> series when the public is keen to seeing the series
> come to a natural end. Not to mention that these new
> shows HBO has invested in have been just plain awful.
> I am speaking of JFC, In Treatment, Tell me You Love
> e me, and Gen Kill. What a terrible idea to have 2
> shows dealing with people in counseling dealing with
> their love lives? Who wants to see two shows like
> this on the same channel? What a bad marketing idea.
Those two shows couldn't be less alike. If you haven't watched them, your arguments don't carry a lot of weight.
> Gen Kill did not even get the #'s of John Adams did
> d and even though John Adams was heavily madvertised
> it did not even reeach the #'s of Deadwood, Gen
> Kill's first viewing barely reached 1 million
> viewers. Who knows how low its gotten now despite HBO
> re-running the show dozens of time s a week.
Do not let Eccles hear you knocking GK. 
And the
> previews of this new vampire series just look plain
> ridiculous. My opinion is it will flop and flop
> badly.
Vampires are in. Where have you been?
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> HBO complained that DW and RM did not get the #'s it
> hoped. The problem is HBO kept expecting #'s like
> the Sopranos initially did.
That is just not fair to
> other shows to be compared to the Sopranos (which is
> a one of a kind in ratings)
Agreed.
HBO had set
> unreasonably hi expectaions of shows like DW
> Carnivale and Rome.
Please don't mention Carnivale in the same breath with DW. Deadwood's demise had little to do with ratings. It's all about the $$$$.
> The truth is Deadwood always had strong ratings 2nd
> only to Sopranos, Rome's viewership kept growing by
> each episode. Its like the metaphor, " a woman has a
> virginia ham under one arm and is whining because she
> has no bread". That is HBO. They wanted all their
> newe shows to have Sopranos like ratings when no show
> will reach such ratings. Even though DW and Rome had
> really good ratings, which steadily increased over
> time. HBO wanted 6-8 million viewers, instead of 3-4
> million viewers. Considering HBo is a pay channel
> 3-4 million is high ratings.
>
> Finally HBO ratings will not rebound unless they make
> a contrition to viewers that they will not abandon
> popular shows in the middle of their running. People
> have an attitude towards HBO now, which is "why
> should I invest time in their shows when they will
> l cancel them in the middle of their running and the
> shows having good ratings will not save it from
> cancellations". People are just plainly pissed off at
> HBO and the only way to get these viewers (literally
> millions of them) back is to make the Deadwood
> movies! This will show the viewers that HBO knows it
> made a mistake and has heard the viewers loud and
> clear. Then and only then will the millions of
> viewers HBO has lost will come back home to HBO. So
> make the Deadwood Movies!
>
> Joseph
It is obvious to most of us that HBO doesn't need us. If they did, we might still be watching DW.
Threatening to leave HBO does not even register on their radar. But, leave if you must.
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Answer To HBO's Problems Re: Deadwood: Not Quite Dead
Aug 22, 2008 2:00 PM
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In the next few days I will be cancelling my HBO due to the fact that HBO will not produce the DW movies. I waited and waited giving HBO the benifit of the doubt and now I know for sure they will not make the movies and lied to the public about doing so.
Doesn't HBO recognize the connection of the failure of of their newer series (Gen Kill, In Treatment, tell Me You Love Me, etc.) with their cancellations of very popular shows with a large loyal fanbase primarily DW, but it started with Carnival, DW, and then Rome. Especially the way HBO handled these cancellations. Don't they see the public does not want to see these shows, becuase of how HBO treated the public with what they did to DW? The public have seemed to boycott HBO series saying will will not watch anymore HBO series until the DW movies are made, and until HBO stops ending popular shows w/o good reason, and ending them in the middle of the series when the public is keen to seeing the series come to a natural end. Not to mention that these new shows HBO has invested in have been just plain awful. I am speaking of JFC, In Treatment, Tell me You Love me, and Gen Kill. What a terrible idea to have 2 shows dealing with people in counseling dealing with their love lives? Who wants to see two shows like this on the same channel? What a bad marketing idea. Gen Kill did not even get the #'s of John Adams did and even though John Adams was heavily madvertised it did not even reeach the #'s of Deadwood, Gen Kill's first viewing barely reached 1 million viewers. Who knows how low its gotten now despite HBO re-running the show dozens of time s a week. And the previews of this new vampire series just look plain ridiculous. My opinion is it will flop and flop badly.
HBO complained that DW and RM did not get the #'s it hoped. The problem is HBO kept expecting #'s like the Sopranos initially did. That is just not fair to other shows to be compared to the Sopranos (which is a one of a kind in ratings) HBO had set unreasonably hi expectaions of shows like DW Carnivale and Rome.
The truth is Deadwood always had strong ratings 2nd only to Sopranos, Rome's viewership kept growing by each episode. Its like the metaphor, " a woman has a virginia ham under one arm and is whining because she has no bread". That is HBO. They wanted all their newe shows to have Sopranos like ratings when no show will reach such ratings. Even though DW and Rome had really good ratings, which steadily increased over time. HBO wanted 6-8 million viewers, instead of 3-4 million viewers. Considering HBo is a pay channel 3-4 million is high ratings.
Finally HBO ratings will not rebound unless they make a contrition to viewers that they will not abandon popular shows in the middle of their running. People have an attitude towards HBO now, which is "why should I invest time in their shows when they will cancel them in the middle of their running and the shows having good ratings will not save it from cancellations". People are just plainly pissed off at HBO and the only way to get these viewers (literally millions of them) back is to make the Deadwood movies! This will show the viewers that HBO knows it made a mistake and has heard the viewers loud and clear. Then and only then will the millions of viewers HBO has lost will come back home to HBO. So make the Deadwood Movies!
Joseph
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Re: Deadwood: Not Quite Dead
Aug 2, 2008 8:37 AM
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The outspoken McShane told critics that talk of "Deadwood" movies was nothing more than "a smoke screen" to cover the premature cancellation of the acclaimed HBO Western.
"It never was going to happen," McShane said. "It left a bad taste for a while."
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Re: Deadwood: Not Quite Dead
Aug 2, 2008 1:05 AM
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HBO! YOU WORTHLESS FU$%ING PISSANTS!!!! I survived the fu$%ing Middle East to come back and find out that you've taken one of the greatest shows ever to be on television off the air!!?? What the HELL are you thinking!? I bought, at full price, 8 of the Sopranos seasons and the DW seasons and would have bought every one made! You make crap like Sex in the City for god knows how many years and wont see DW through to a viable end!?! I will NEVER, DO YOU UNDERSTAND...NEVER subscribe to your channels unless this is resolved!
Generation Kill..a fine show.. but I will not watch another episode nor recommend it untill you make good with DW.
Fire whoever allowed it to end.
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Re: Deadwood: Not Quite Dead
Jul 5, 2008 12:01 AM
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> I have not been here in quite some time. Could
> anybody tell me if there is ANY hoep at all that
> Milch and HBO will give us the 2 Deadwood movies that
> will supply closure?
Deadwood movies are Dead.
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Re: Deadwood: Not Quite Dead
Jul 4, 2008 11:31 PM
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There will be no movies. Sorry.
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Re: Deadwood: Not Quite Dead
Jul 4, 2008 11:30 PM
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oops, quadruple post thanks to the shitty boards
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Jul 4, 2008 11:30 PM
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oops
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Re: Deadwood: Not Quite Dead
Jul 4, 2008 11:12 PM
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I have not been here in quite some time. Could anybody tell me if there is ANY hoep at all that Milch and HBO will give us the 2 Deadwood movies that will supply closure?
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Re: Deadwood: Not Quite Dead
May 27, 2008 2:35 AM
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> If it gets picked up, he could be busy for
> years before DW comes up. Who knows where there
> original DW cast members will be by then? I, like so
> many others believe that HBO made a mistake by taking
> back thier word about season four.
I wish David all the best. I am so impressed with how he thinks and his storytelling abilities! During our Save JOHN campaigns many wanted to bombard him with stuff but that just seemed too much like shooting the golden goose to me. I only want the best for him. As much as I would like more JOHN and DW I do hope his new show does well.
We have the same concerns about getting the cast of JOHN back together sometime in the future. Unlike DW that has a real history to contend with, I think JOHN could be done in a few years and do another 10-days-in-the-lives of which every actors/characters are available.
Oh, I'm planning on putting together a page on my site about the reasons JOHN got cut short. Would you, unclemajohn, like to offer your suggestions on what went wrong and what would have saved it? Since this is off topic here, you can write me at admin@savejfc.net if that feels more appropriate.
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Re: Deadwood: Not Quite Dead
May 26, 2008 10:27 PM
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> So, in your opinion, will there ever be Deadwood
> movies?
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In my opinion? No. Do I want there to be? HELL YES! I know that David is gearing up to go to New York to work on his '70's police show/pilot, which is also for HBO. If it gets picked up, he could be busy for years before DW comes up. Who knows where there original DW cast members will be by then? I, like so many others believe that HBO made a mistake by taking back thier word about season four.
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Re: Deadwood: Not Quite Dead
May 26, 2008 6:54 PM
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> Yes, I did work on both DW, and JFC. I must say that
> those years were some of the best and most fun times
> I had in the industry in the 19 years.
I can only imagine! I never watched Deadwood the first time around but am watching it now during the reruns at 11pm weeknights and I now know what all the talk was about. I'm only sorry that the show only runs once a day because I would love to be able to rewatch each episode.
So, in your opinion, will there ever be Deadwood movies?
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