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Well, folks, since HBO is making us wait for what seems like forever for a new series to discuss, I thought it might be time to devote a thread to all the other shows out there that'll have to suffice in the meantime.
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Re: Smoke gets in your eyes
Jul 5, 2008 3:18 PM
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> The last epsiode I
> watched was with draper and the grey haired boss dude
> (from Ed!!) walking up the stairs cuz the elevator
> was out of service. Fi'ng classic. I love it when
> serious shows go off of the cuff and add a little
> scene of pure absurdity just for shits and giggles.
And, if I remember correctly, Don set that up by paying off the elevator operator??? I'm not sure. Will have to take a looksee now that I have my very own zippo-boxed set. 
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Re: It's not HBO, it's TV.
Jul 5, 2008 3:13 PM
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> I kept trying to figure out where I'd seen Vincent
> Kartheiser, who plays Pete Campbell, until I realized
> he must be the love child of Steve Buscemi and Toby
> McGuire.
He was also Angel's son. Isn't he just fantastic as Pete? I think one of my favorite moments in the series is in the pilot episode when Don refuses to shake his hand because, "I don't want to wake up to find myself pregnant".
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Re: Smoke gets in your eyes
Jul 5, 2008 2:59 PM
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> > I'm rewatching Episode 2. Don's daughter is
> playing
> > with a dry cleaning bag over her head and the
> only
> > thing her mother is concerned about is whether
> the
> > clothes that were in the bag are now on the
> floor of
> > the closet.
>
>
> life was simpler then ..........
I just watched that again last night too. I couldn't stop laughing when the kid just turned around and went back to playing "spaceman" with the bag still over her head.
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Re: Smoke gets in your eyes
Jul 5, 2008 2:55 PM
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> Mad Men update. No fireworks this holiday for me,
> which means more time for teevee catch up. Got
> through episode 6 or so. Fucking brilliant. It has
> gotten to the poiint where I don't even care about
> how patheitic the people are, the acting and settings
> alone more than make up for it. The last epsiode I
> watched was with draper and the grey haired boss dude
> (from Ed!!) walking up the stairs cuz the elevator
> was out of service. Fi'ng classic. I love it when
> serious shows go off of the cuff and add a little
> scene of pure absurdity just for shits and giggles.
> The Sopranos was good at that too. Question to all
> l of the old timers out there though. Were guys from
> that era that horny and entitled as the show
> portrays? I mean I know that guys are horny, but in
> this show, all it takes is one martini and a semi
> position of power and all of a sudden you are
> entitled to slap the ass of your coworker's ass.
> Hopefully they show some good guys in the show soon.
> Or perhaps, there were no good guys back then. I
> I dunno, I was just a lil spermie in me pop's lil'
> peepee back in those crazy days.
I'm really trying to keep my trap shut till you're through the whole thing, but yeah, it's best not to think in terms of good guys and bad guys when watching Mad Men. I was put off by the first couple of episodes, too, but while watching the second half of the series I came to think of it as the anti-Sopranos.
The Sops was all cynical all the time, always expecting and delivering the worst in people and constantly hammering away at the idea that people never learn or change. The characters in Mad Men resemble the Sops in that they are dinosaurs, but the difference between the shows is that some of the Mad Men are self-aware, they know that they must learn and change or perish. That's where the good is found in these guys.
edited to add: I absolutely love Don Draper. And Rachel. And Peggy. And Betty. All of them are very real to me now.
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Re: It's not HBO, it's TV.
Jul 5, 2008 1:10 PM
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> I kept trying to figure out where I'd seen Vincent
> Kartheiser, who plays Pete Campbell, until I realized
> he must be the love child of Steve Buscemi and Toby
> McGuire.
I think you're right !
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Re: Smoke gets in your eyes
Jul 5, 2008 1:09 PM
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> I'm rewatching Episode 2. Don's daughter is playing
> with a dry cleaning bag over her head and the only
> thing her mother is concerned about is whether the
> clothes that were in the bag are now on the floor of
> the closet.
life was simpler then ..........
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Re: Smoke gets in your eyes
Jul 5, 2008 12:19 PM
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> Mad Men update. No fireworks this holiday for me,
> which means more time for teevee catch up. Got
> through episode 6 or so. Fucking brilliant.
I was a child in those days. Although the actions of the characters may seem over the top when it comes to skirt chasing, the general mind-set seems fairly accurate to me. When one of the female characters says of some product, "the men who invented this made it so simple even a woman can use it," you've pretty much got the gist of how things were.
I'm as nostalgic as the next person, nostalgia essentially being history for the self-absorbed, but the good old days weren't quite as good as some remember.
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Re: It's not HBO, it's TV.
Jul 5, 2008 11:03 AM
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The way these bbs are fucked up, this message might appear right around the time MAD MEN begins its second season. I guess we forgot to bring candy to the girls in the HBO Message Board switchboard room, and now they're not sending our postings through.
Because I really do listen to what you all are saying, I decided to watch Season One of MAD MEN. I think it is excellent.
Betty Draper (January Jones) is so beautiful. As for Don's other women, I could never figure out which one was Rachel and which one was Midge. Other than that, I did fairly well.
I kept trying to figure out where I'd seen Vincent Kartheiser, who plays Pete Campbell, until I realized he must be the love child of Steve Buscemi and Toby McGuire.
I look forward to Season Two. They should drink more.
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Re: Smoke gets in your eyes
Jul 5, 2008 11:02 AM
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> First thing I noticed about the show was all the
> smoking.....everywhere ! Then I remembered I used
> to smoke at work in the early 70s, in meetings, at my
> desk, etc. seems like ages ago ! After the first
> episode, I wanted to take a shower & wash my hair, I
> felt like I reeked of smoke.
>
> I wasn't in the work force in 1960 but yeah, that was
> the way things were in a lot of places. Not all
> places were like the ad agency & not all men were
> like those guys. But remember, attitudes like those
> shown on MadMen is one of the big reasons for the
> women's Lib movement. equality in pay & respect at
> the work place.
Mad Men (Madison Avenue Ad Men) is the name for the ad men of that particular time and place. I don't personally know anyone who fit that bill, but I believe it to be accurate, although possibly embellished a bit. I feel like taking a shower and washing my hair after each episode, too, CGal. I almost didn't watch the 2nd episode because of the male chauvinism in the first, but because Walk recommended it so highly, I returned and I am glad I did. This is outstanding television. And despite his flaws, Don becomes a sympathetic character as more and more of his past is revealed. I love John Slattery (Roger Sterling) and Elizabeth Moss (Peggy Olson) and really the whole cast.
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I'm rewatching Episode 2. Don's daughter is playing with a dry cleaning bag over her head and the only thing her mother is concerned about is whether the clothes that were in the bag are now on the floor of the closet.
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Re: Smoke gets in your eyes
Jul 5, 2008 8:59 AM
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> Mad Men update. No fireworks this holiday for me,
> which means more time for teevee catch up. Got
> through episode 6 or so. Fucking brilliant. It has
> gotten to the poiint where I don't even care about
> how patheitic the people are, the acting and settings
> alone more than make up for it. The last epsiode I
> watched was with draper and the grey haired boss dude
> (from Ed!!) walking up the stairs cuz the elevator
> was out of service. Fi'ng classic. I love it when
> serious shows go off of the cuff and add a little
> scene of pure absurdity just for shits and giggles.
> The Sopranos was good at that too.
Glad you are liking the show, Py. I think it's good too.
Question to all
> l of the old timers out there though. Were guys from
> that era that horny and entitled as the show
> portrays? I mean I know that guys are horny, but in
> this show, all it takes is one martini and a semi
> position of power and all of a sudden you are
> entitled to slap the ass of your coworker's ass.
> Hopefully they show some good guys in the show soon.
> Or perhaps, there were no good guys back then. I
> I dunno, I was just a lil spermie in me pop's lil'
> peepee back in those crazy days.
The show takes place in 1960, I think, as they are talking about JFK running for office. Men were the boss at work & at home. I think the culture of that office perpetuates the chauvenism of the time. If a man acts any differently, there must be something "wrong" with him. Manly men drank & flirted with their "girls" at work. Did ya notice all teh guys have booze in their desk drawers ?? Women who worked outside the home were usually secretaries, nurses or teachers, traditional "women's jobs", with male bosses. there may have been a head nurse, but nurses were usually dictated to by doctors, again most of whom were men.
First thing I noticed about the show was all the smoking.....everywhere ! Then I remembered I used to smoke at work in the early 70s, in meetings, at my desk, etc. seems like ages ago ! After the first episode, I wanted to take a shower & wash my hair, I felt like I reeked of smoke.
I wasn't in the work force in 1960 but yeah, that was the way things were in a lot of places. Not all places were like the ad agency & not all men were like those guys. But remember, attitudes like those shown on MadMen is one of the big reasons for the women's Lib movement. equality in pay & respect at the work place.
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Re: Smoke gets in your eyes
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Mad Men update. No fireworks this holiday for me, which means more time for teevee catch up. Got through episode 6 or so. Fucking brilliant. It has gotten to the poiint where I don't even care about how patheitic the people are, the acting and settings alone more than make up for it. The last epsiode I watched was with draper and the grey haired boss dude (from Ed!!) walking up the stairs cuz the elevator was out of service. Fi'ng classic. I love it when serious shows go off of the cuff and add a little scene of pure absurdity just for shits and giggles. The Sopranos was good at that too. Question to all of the old timers out there though. Were guys from that era that horny and entitled as the show portrays? I mean I know that guys are horny, but in this show, all it takes is one martini and a semi position of power and all of a sudden you are entitled to slap the ass of your coworker's ass. Hopefully they show some good guys in the show soon. Or perhaps, there were no good guys back then. I dunno, I was just a lil spermie in me pop's lil' peepee back in those crazy days.
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Re: Smoke gets in your eyes
Jul 4, 2008 3:44 PM
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> > You left out the part about what a great
> > singer/songwriter he is...otherwise...BRILLIANT
> and
> > pretty close to convo's i've had about James
> > Marsters.
> > Can't wait for Whedon's new show Dollhouse!
> > Eccles, you're amazing. 
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> I don't think Gaston is a singer/songwriter type of
> guy.
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Re: It's not HBO, it's TV.
Jul 4, 2008 11:38 AM
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WEEDS:
Watching old episodes, I'm really very impressed by Page Kennedy's performance as U-Turn. The guy was dead on, funny at times, and always dangerous. Great acting.
I've also come to love Becky Thyre as Pam, Celia's faithful helper ... her Renfield, as it were.
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Re: It's not HBO, it's TV.
Jul 4, 2008 10:45 AM
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> I read the entire Sookie Stackhouse series this week
> in anticpation of True Blood coming out and I was
> pretty impressed. At times I felt like a kid again
> getting all excited reading about vampires having sex
> and all of that, but overall, it it was clever,
> entertaining, sensual in a innocent sort of way and
> most importantly, kept u turning the pages. And the
> scenes were very visual, meaning that I was
> constantly imagining in my head what was happening
> rather than just thinking or processing them. Which
> I imagine translates well when it comes to
> television. Add to that, Alan Ball is in charge,
> , so i have faith in the casting and editing when it
> is needed to the original storyline. I am pretty
> excited about True Blood. Big potential, do not
> disappoint HBO.. You are treading upon thin water as
> of late.. :D
I'm looking forward to this as well. Besides, we get to see EB Farnum playing a sheriff.
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Re: Smoke gets in your eyes
Jul 4, 2008 10:43 AM
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> You left out the part about what a great
> singer/songwriter he is...otherwise...BRILLIANT and
> pretty close to convo's i've had about James
> Marsters.
> Can't wait for Whedon's new show Dollhouse!
> Eccles, you're amazing.
I don't think Gaston is a singer/songwriter type of guy.
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